The 2008/2009 NBA season thread

[Ignatius]

Shaq O'Neal was always on the bench late in games.  What's your point?  Big men usually take a seat to avoid getting fouled intentionally and missing free throws.

Whatever...Jackson seats Bynum down cause he rather play with Odom during final minutes instead. It doesnt have anything to do with free throw percentage though...Do you see Dwight Howard on the bench during the final minutes of any game? No. Howard's free throw percentage is 50% and the guy still plays the final minutes of each and every game.

Stats schmats man, quit throwing numbers around.  It was never a numbers argument.

Yes it is when it comes to value what players contribute to their teams. Almost 100% of the times, good players have good numbers. That's a pretty fair measurement t if you ask me...it's true that intangibles are important to a point, but definitely, they should not be the main reference when judging any player's contribution to his team.

Gasol has not only put up good numbers in Memphis, but also in LA. Nothing's changed.

I understand you'd like Gasol to be more AGGRESSIVE, but you must also know there are other things to consider as I already pointed out. I agree Bruce Owen is one of those players who doesn't put up big numbers but it's somehow important to the Spurs, but that does NOT make him more valuable than Parker, Duncan or Ginobili. Owen is a defense specialist and that's basically his sole contribution.

Defense is a very important aspect of the game, but also is scoring, rebounding, passing, reading the floor, creating opps for your team mates, playing the final minutes, executing the best possible action each and every time....

[crow316]

What a night.  Cavs worst loss of the season.  Kobe out-duels Prince James with one hand. Nice.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Bootiful!

As the late, great Sir Charles would say, "That was a turbull loss by the Cavs."

[crow316]

Another good night. Bynum scores 42. Kobe has another triple double. Granted, it was against an undermanned Clippers. But I'll take it.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

I'm going to the Faker game tonight.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Great game last night.


On another note, this made me sad.

Jazz owner Miller has legs amputated

ssociated Press

SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah Jazz owner Larry H. Miller has had both of his legs amputated 6 inches below the knee.

Jazz spokesman Jonathan Rinehart says Friday's surgery was the result of complications from Type 2 diabetes.

Rinehart says the 64-year-old Miller is recovering in a hospital.

Greg Miller, Larry Miller's son, said in a statement that his father is doing well.

Rinehart says Miller was already using a wheelchair before the surgery.

Miller had outpatient surgery in October for a bone infection and diabetic ulcers discovered in his foot.

Miller's wife, Gail, had told the Deseret News that he was to undergo six weeks of IV and hyperbaric chamber therapy for the infection and ulcers.

Miller had a heart attack this summer. He remained in the hospital for nearly two months because of complications that included kidney failure and gastrointestinal bleeding that required blood transfusions.

[Malcolm]

Thats too bad....Calderon was back last night for the first time in about a month for the Raps and they finally snapped there 7 game loosing streak...he had 20 some points and 20 some assists...Hopefully they can pick it up...Also what does everyone think about the possible deal between the raps and heat that would see the raps send Jermaine Oneal to the Heat for Shawn Marion...who wins?

[Eazy E]

Thats too bad....Calderon was back last night for the first time in about a month for the Raps and they finally snapped there 7 game loosing streak...he had 20 some points and 20 some assists...Hopefully they can pick it up...Also what does everyone think about the possible deal between the raps and heat that would see the raps send Jermaine Oneal to the Heat for Shawn Marion...who wins?

Only 10 assists... but it was obviously nice to have everyone healthy for a game and put up a 20 point victory.

I think that deal is B.S. personally because of the "Marcus Banks" aspect of the deal... Also, Calderon is a pure half-court point guard and we've seen in Miami that Marion isn't worth much without Steve Nash & a run-and-gun.

[Ignatius]

I think that deal is B.S. personally because of the "Marcus Banks" aspect of the deal... Also, Calderon is a pure half-court point guard and we've seen in Miami that Marion isn't worth much without Steve Nash & a run-and-gun.

Yeah I agree. Marion is not going to make the Raptors a better team than what they are now. I thought Jermaine was a good addition to the team but him being injured a few times is hard really to tell whether he can contribute or not.

The problem I see with the Raptors is their struggle to win tight matches. If you take 75% of the Raptors loses this year you'll find Toronto was either up by the end of the third quarter or really in contention. Maybe the Raptors are too dependant on Chris Bosh to make plays when it counts and opponents know that. Put two guys on Bosh and he'll make a few, but he'll miss 3 or 4.

I believe the team should also look for other players in the 4th quarter; Parker, Bargnani or Caderon can score and will score if they have to. If you have more options on the offensive end, that opens a whole new world of possibilities.

Oh and by the way "Oh Henry", last two Bynum's performance were simply impressive. All the credit to him. Seems like he may have read this board and wanted to prove me wrong 

[w.axl.rose]

Great opening night for the Lakers!  I really hope they can continue this inspired style of defense.

Fucking crushed the Blazers man.

I can't wait for tomorrow.

I'll take some snapshots.

you better son.

whatever happened to these snap shots 

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Great opening night for the Lakers!  I really hope they can continue this inspired style of defense.

Fucking crushed the Blazers man.

I can't wait for tomorrow.

I'll take some snapshots.

you better son.

whatever happened to these snap shots 

Uhhhh, which snapshots do you want?

[crow316]

Bynum had a better stat line tonight than Duncan. Lakers wiped the floor with the Spurs. 

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Bynum had a better stat line tonight than Duncan. Lakers wiped the floor with the Spurs. 

Kobe didn't even come out for the 4th quarter for the second game in a row.

He's gonna need to rest up for that long road trip.

[AxlsMainMan]

LeBron vs. AI today.

Don't see the Pistons winning this one, but it still should be a good game.

[fito_gnr]

man, Andrew Bynum got injured... that sucks he was playing all-star level, time for odom to step up...

[w.axl.rose]

he was able to walk to the bus last night by himself so thats a good sign

[faldor]

Celtics have won 11 straight.  I'm just saying.  Back when they went on their little slide a lot of people were up in arms, yet I haven't heard anything since they righted the ship.  Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

I'm looking into my crystal ball, and I see the Lakers losing to the Cavs and C's.

If Bynum is done for the year, the Lakers should just forfeit the season.

[w.axl.rose]

I'm looking into my crystal ball, and I see the Lakers losing to the Cavs and C's.

If Bynum is done for the year, the Lakers should just forfeit the season.

 

[faldor]

I thought Bynum was gonna be alright?  I have him on my fantasy team so I have a vested interest there.  I wish the Lakers luck and hope they beat the Cavs.  Someone has to beat them on their home floor eventually.