Slash has listened to Chinese Democracy

[oldgunsfan]

"I'm not on that record, I have nothing to do with it and there's really nothing else to say", sounds like the perfect responce to anyone throwing it at him.

Does anybody actually think that if he kept that up, and didn't comment on GN'R, that journalists would keep asking about it?

You really think a DJ would follow up a "I don't wanna talk about GN'R since I'm not on that record" answer with more questions about it?

Let him talk about his action figure, paperback or whatever else he's promoting right now. Isn't that why he was interviewed in the first place?





/jarmo

actually, they probably would like those guys on the boston interview

you don't think any journalist in their right mind wouldn't ask him about it?  or ask a couple of follow up questions in a different way?  maybe it just me, but that seems to be pretty naive if you think a "no comment" will stop all the questions....this coming from from music journalists who live and breath controversy asking the former lead guitarist of one of the biggest selling acts of the time about an album that took over ten years to record and release that most of them probably feel he should still be playing with? of course their gonna ask him leading questions trying to goad him into bashing axl or trashing CD, and ask them multpile times in different ways......it's their JOBS.....no if Slash really wanted to avoid all this, he could go into a hermitage for the next dew years and avoid everyone, but the paparatzi here in the US and LA in particular are pretty aggressive in their tactics

[ToonGuns]

U can ban people, so I guess we have to agree with you.

People who get banned are often stupid.

Like Slash fans coming to a GN'R site to go on and on about Slash.... When there's a new single and album on the way.

I don't care if you don't agree with me. I care when you come to a GN'R site to troll.

And your post had some elements in it that I think are that kind of behavior.

I don't care what "works for you".

If you honestly think it's wrong for GN'R to play the old songs, I think you need to reconsider or keeping quiet about it here.

just tired of people trying to erase the legacy these guys helped build.

Oh really?

Where did I do that?

I don't think I said a bad thing about his guitar playing in GN'R.

he handled it perfectly so i don't get the negativity?

What's negative about thanking him for not commenting?

So even though I complimented him, you attack me.

 



/jarmo

Was it not sarcasm? That will just provoke an argument and a response... which is what happened.

[younggunner]

I dont get all the hatred towards Slash. He might have been shady for a period of time and he certainly is percieved as the angel of the two but who cares. Hes been trying to make amends, or atleast it appears that way, for awhile now.

What if GNR reunite in like 10 yrs after the current band releases all of their material? Will you people not like GNR because Slash is in it? Or will your tunes change?

If Axl has a problem with Slash thats fine. Its between them two. Let them solve it. Your job is to just enjoy the music that the old band brought and what the new band will bring.....

[Smoking Guns]

I dont get all the hatred towards Slash. He might have been shady for a period of time and he certainly is percieved as the angel of the two but who cares. Hes been trying to make amends, or atleast it appears that way, for awhile now.

What if GNR reunite in like 10 yrs after the current band releases all of their material? Will you people not like GNR because Slash is in it? Or will your tunes change?

If Axl has a problem with Slash thats fine. Its between them two. Let them solve it. Your job is to just enjoy the music that the old band brought and what the new band will bring.....

Amen to that young gunner!

[jarmo]

Was it not sarcasm? That will just provoke an argument and a response... which is what happened.

No, I thanked him for not commenting on GN'R for once.

 



/jarmo

[Bridge]

No, the problem is him "reviewing" the record before it's out.

Bullshit.

I just read through 11 pages (!!!!) of rubbish, and there were precious few posts in the last 11 fucking pages that mentioned that Slash had listened to the record before it was released.

No, this thread is an out-of-control example of what people around here are like.  Slash makes a couple of POSITIVE comments about Axl's new material, and that sets off a huge shitstorm of backlash towards him for being an ass kisser, a media whore, a reunion hungry bastard, playing with all sorts of musicians he shouldn't be playing with, making award show appearances he shouldn't be making, whether or not he should comment on GNR, whether or not he has commented on Axl and when, what he should've left his book to say, etc etc etc.  And sweet jesus, it seems 2-3 pages of this thread were dedicated solely to tearing into Slash's appearance on Ellen to sell his house!

ALL OF THIS JUST BECAUSE SLASH WAS ASKED A GODDAMN QUESTION AND HE GAVE A 2-3 SENTENCE ANSWER TO IT!

And you were right at the center of all those discussions Jarmo, so please don't play innocent and act like you're just offering legitimate criticism for Slash's "bootlegging" of the damn CD.

I'd say the statements made by the rest of you on this thread reflect your personal character a hell of a lot more than they reflect Slash's.

[Bridge]

He said Axl and STEVEN what the hell, that must have been a joke, i  Are you serious he said Steven, it had to be a joke just had to...

You've obviously not read Slash's book.  He gives Steven a HUGE amount of credit for GNR's early success.  The other responders to your posts pretty much told you why; Slash credits Steven immensely for bringing that swing and rhythm and "spark" to those songs that really made them work.  Slash also stated in his book that the world has never given Steven enough credit for making GNR work when they first started.

[Jim Bob]

how nice of Slash's biggest fanboi to join us

[Bridge]

how nice of Slash's biggest fanboi to join us

Well since you're here, we've got Axl's biggest nut hugger --  so yeah, I'd say it's only appropriate.   

[IKnowWhereIAM]

He said Axl and STEVEN what the hell, that must have been a joke, i  Are you serious he said Steven, it had to be a joke just had to...

You've obviously not read Slash's book.  He gives Steven a HUGE amount of credit for GNR's early success.  The other responders to your posts pretty much told you why; Slash credits Steven immensely for bringing that swing and rhythm and "spark" to those songs that really made them work.  Slash also stated in his book that the world has never given Steven enough credit for making GNR work when they first started.

The world has also never given Slash credit for Stevens failed rehab stints...some friend.  Not hating, but he actually seems to brag about or revel in this in his book (at least one incident).

[jarmo]

And you were right at the center of all those discussions Jarmo, so please don't play innocent and act like you're just offering legitimate criticism for Slash's "bootlegging" of the damn CD.

I'd say the statements made by the rest of you on this thread reflect your personal character a hell of a lot more than they reflect Slash's.

Thank you!


Did you notice that I complimented Mr "I don't talk about it"?



/jarmo

[adman2374]

And you were right at the center of all those discussions Jarmo, so please don't play innocent and act like you're just offering legitimate criticism for Slash's "bootlegging" of the damn CD.

I'd say the statements made by the rest of you on this thread reflect your personal character a hell of a lot more than they reflect Slash's.

Thank you!


Did you notice that I complimented Mr "I don't talk about it"?



/jarmo

I think I saw some threads where you attended some VR concerts. Did Slash give you a shout out?

[Bridge]

The world has also never given Slash credit for Stevens failed rehab stints...some friend.  Not hating, but he actually seems to brag about or revel in this in his book (at least one incident).

Maybe I'm missing your drift here.... you're implying that Slash was responsible for Steven jumping over the fence and escaping rehab?  Slash does indeed talk a lot about making an effort to get Steven off of drugs, but Steven has to complete that effort.  Slash can't get Steven off drugs by himself.  But considering, I'd say that in recent years, Slash has been a hell of a friend to intervene at great length to try and help Steven out, even if he wasn't a great friend in the early 1990s.

I think I saw some threads where you attended some VR concerts. Did Slash give you a shout out?

Nothing will ever equal Axl asking thousands of Belgium fans in 2002 how to pronounce Jarmo's name.  Classic.   

[GypsySoul]

I think I saw some threads where you attended some VR concerts. Did Slash give you a shout out?

Nothing will ever equal Axl asking thousands of Belgium fans in 2002 how to pronounce Jarmo's name.  Classic.   

WOW!!!  you two make a great tag-team ... jealousy and stalking combo!!!  Bet Slash would kill for this kind of fan attention.  Jarmo must feel so honored. 

[IKnowWhereIAM]

The world has also never given Slash credit for Stevens failed rehab stints...some friend.  Not hating, but he actually seems to brag about or revel in this in his book (at least one incident).

Maybe I'm missing your drift here.... you're implying that Slash was responsible for Steven jumping over the fence and escaping rehab?  Slash does indeed talk a lot about making an effort to get Steven off of drugs, but Steven has to complete that effort.  Slash can't get Steven off drugs by himself.  But considering, I'd say that in recent years, Slash has been a hell of a friend to intervene at great length to try and help Steven out, even if he wasn't a great friend in the early 1990s.

When the band was giving him a last chance, and Slash went to his rehab and got wasted...walked through a glass door or some shit...Slash seems to wear this as a badge of honor, rather than the shameful episode it was.  Yes, Steven is a mess, and has nobody to blame but himself in the end - but when you try to clean up and your best friend shows up with drugs and says lets party (then cuts you off for 6 years after kicking you out of the band?)...hopefully point made.

I am a huge fan of Slash's guitar work with GnR, and some of Snakepit/VR...but I am NOT a fan of Slash, thanks to his drug use.  I hope that is all behind him.

[LunsJail]

The world has also never given Slash credit for Stevens failed rehab stints...some friend.  Not hating, but he actually seems to brag about or revel in this in his book (at least one incident).

Maybe I'm missing your drift here.... you're implying that Slash was responsible for Steven jumping over the fence and escaping rehab?  Slash does indeed talk a lot about making an effort to get Steven off of drugs, but Steven has to complete that effort.  Slash can't get Steven off drugs by himself.  But considering, I'd say that in recent years, Slash has been a hell of a friend to intervene at great length to try and help Steven out, even if he wasn't a great friend in the early 1990s.

When the band was giving him a last chance, and Slash went to his rehab and got wasted...walked through a glass door or some shit...Slash seems to wear this as a badge of honor, rather than the shameful episode it was.  Yes, Steven is a mess, and has nobody to blame but himself in the end - but when you try to clean up and your best friend shows up with drugs and says lets party (then cuts you off for 6 years after kicking you out of the band?)...hopefully point made.

I am a huge fan of Slash's guitar work with GnR, and some of Snakepit/VR...but I am NOT a fan of Slash, thanks to his drug use.  I hope that is all behind him.

If I remember correctly, both Slash and Steven were there to clean up.  And it wasn't a rehab, just some golf resort that management thought they could stow the two away for awhile.

[Grasshopper]

No Jarmo, I have no problems with them playing all the GNR catalog, Axl has every single right in the world to do so but sometimes it seems people think Slash and everyone else should forget they were in GNR.

Isn't that the same as Slash and company playing GnR songs with Velvet Revolver. Who cares Slash is not in the band, neither is Duff, Izzy or Matt. The era of Slash was finished when he quit the band. Get over it.

[D]

So if u quit a band, u no longer can play shit u wrote?

What kind of stupid twisted shit is that?

[jarmo]

So if u quit a band, u no longer can play shit u wrote?

What kind of stupid twisted shit is that?

This from the guy who thinks that since GN'R plays GN'R songs it's only fair that Slash keeps talking about GN'R....





/jarmo

[D]

no that isn't what I said Jarmo.

I said that everyone still uses the greatness they accomplished to some extent.

That isn't a knock on them, hell they should.

Adler uses it for Adler's Appetite

Slash uses it to sell books or whatever

Axl still tours and plays the old material

But thats fine. U keep taking it negative like I'm insulting or talking shit like it's wrong. It isn't. Its totally cool but

I think its ok and totally acceptable for all of them to do it cause they each are responsible for creating it.

Now if Gilby Clarke or Traci Guns or somebody were out doing GNR stuff, that would be fucked up because they didn't have a hand in creating the songs that led to GNR being the legends they are.

If u created it, u can do and promote and live off of it cause it is insignificant whether or not u are in the band anymore. It only matters who wrote what.

Ownership of music doesn't transfer because you are no longer in the band.