Slash has listened to Chinese Democracy

[jarmo]

He says something positive about GnR and still there's outrage! Poor ol' Slash can't win can he? 

No, the problem is him "reviewing" the record before it's out.

First he says he wishes the leaker will rot in jail and then he goes on to talk about an album that's not out yet.

So, how did he get it?

He sure as hell didn't go and buy it.

Someone gave it to him?

Isn't that what the leaker used as his defense?





/jarmo

[GNR4L]

ok first off Richard wasn't presenting a award he was playing Rhianna's band BIG DIFFRENCE !!!! and im sure about 2 percent of that crowd knew that Richard was playing up there.  Second of all this is the first time i've heard Del say anything about Slash ! and let me remind you.  Just because your guitar hero plays the same ol riff over and over again and looks like he did 20 years ago, doesn't mean he was telling the truth about Axl.  Let's put it this Axl wanted to go in a new direction and slash wasn't talented enough to do so.  Slash can say all the good things he wants about GnR HE AIN'T GETTING BACK IN.

  Slash plays with Fergie. Fortus plays with Rihanna. Oh I get it-its because they're different women!

Your 'guitar hero' (and I do like Fortus) is playing that 'not talented' Slash's riffs. Pot. Kettle. Black.

ok you didn't read what I said " I said Slash wasn't talented enough to play the new material" Slash was up there playing with Fergie as in a duo.  Richard was up there playing as a session player BIG DIFFRENCE.  You can sit there and come up with excuses all day for Slash it ain't gonna work.  It is what it is ! Slash regrets leaving GnR and now he's trying to get into good graces with Axl, after he f*cked Axl over in the press.

[SlashRock]

No, the problem is him "reviewing" the record before it's out.

First he says he wishes the leaker will rot in jail and then he goes on to talk about an album that's not out yet.

So, how did he get it?

He sure as hell didn't go and buy it.

Someone gave it to him?

Isn't that what the leaker used as his defense?





/jarmo

There's a difference between leaking a bunch of songs online and just listening to the leaks themselves. Listening to the leaks themselves isn't gonna harm the sales of the record-especially considering the people who have downloaded them are the most hardcore of fans. I personally have only heard the said leaks live so I don't know the quality of them professionally. Leaking the album online will obviously affect sales. Slash does not contradict himself in this sense.

[SlashRock]

ok you didn't read what I said " I said Slash wasn't talented enough to play the new material" Slash was up there playing with Fergie as in a duo.  Richard was up there playing as a session player BIG DIFFRENCE.  You can sit there and come up with excuses all day for Slash it ain't gonna work.  It is what it is ! Slash regrets leaving GnR and now he's trying to get into good graces with Axl, after he f*cked Axl over in the press.

You're stating personal opinion and not solid facts here. There is no evidence to suggest Slash could not handle the new material-just because he plays straightforward rock in VR does not mean he cannot experiment in other styles. Both Slash and Fortus played with a pop musician-there is no difference no matter how you try and create different playing roles. There is also no evidence that Slash wants to return to GnR. Again that is your opinion. Lets stick to facts please.

[Alan]

@ jarmo as you have said yourself can you not see the difference between 2 things...

someone gave it to the leaker, he then took it upon himself to put it on his website for the world to download

someone gave it to slash (full album? who the fuck knows apart from slash) and he listened to it, and then someone asked him about it and he didn't lie. i mean we all know how much you like it when slash lies, but now it seems you don't like him telling the truth either?

and let me remind you.  Just because your guitar hero plays the same ol riff over and over again and looks like he did 20 years ago, doesn't mean he was telling the truth about Axl.  Let's put it this Axl wanted to go in a new direction and slash wasn't talented enough to do so.  Slash can say all the good things he wants about GnR HE AIN'T GETTING BACK IN.

this isn't about axl. stop bringing axl into it...

[jarmo]

@ jarmo as you have said yourself can you not see the difference between 2 things...

someone gave it to the leaker, he then took it upon himself to put it on his website for the world to download

I know the difference between leaking songs online and listening to them.  That's not what this is about at all.



But the fact remains, both of them got songs that are not out somehow.

One put the online (not cool) and the other one basically reviewed the songs.


Why not just wait until the album is out for the review?

Imagine if he in fact has listened to the same leaks that he wishes the guy responsible will rot in jail.....




/jarmo

[ckgent]

i dont class what slash did as a review. Surely a review is a bit more detailed or gives a rating. I dont feel he has done either. A question to you Jarmo.... If someone is t let you have a copy before it hits the shelves, are you honestly saying you wont listen to it until you can go and buy it also?? even if its a gift from someone in the gn'r camp?? (technically that was 2 questions).

[suicide]

Jarmo, please answer this question honestly: have you ever listened to any of the leaks? I'm not asking for a review here, a yes or no will do.

[jarmo]

Since a lot of people have gotten attacked for talking about the album when it's not out (not mentioning any names), does this apply for Slash?  


Listening to an album is one thing, but now he's talking to the press about it. And not just "I can't wait to hear it" stuff.

Just like talking about the leaker created additional headlines, this will once again prove to all Slash fans how cool he is for being nice towards Axl.

Are his feelings genuine? I don't know...

Jarmo, please answer this question honestly: have you ever listened to any of the leaks? I'm not asking for a review here, a yes or no will do.

I have answered that in the past and what does this have to do with me?

Why is it that every other thread is either about Axl or me in this section? 



/jarmo

[Alan]

if he lies they bitch
if he's honest they bitch
if he compliments axl they bitch
if he slags off axl they bitch
if he talks about vr they bitch
if he talks about gnr they bitch

basicly if Slash opens his mouth Jarmo, JB etc will bitch, it doesn't matter what he says, they will find something a reason to bitch about it.


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suicide jarmo has said he heard the leaks. but not in full.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

Some of these "slash isn't talented enough, he wants back in GNR" comments sound ridiculous. And I don't think he wants back in GNR either. Considering the number of times he's said something along the lines of "I doubt it'll ever happen" when asked about GNR reunions, he doesn't seem too anxious to "want back in". Perhaps he does want to be on good terms with Axl again? Not because he wants to be in GNR, but just to be friends (sorta) again. Perhaps he does think the songs he's heard are brilliant? Not everything you read is a lie....

[Ines_rocks!]

and this has gone so far off topic it's unreal.

slash is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't when asked questions about GnR.

I really want to know if Slash heard the finished product and if so who gave it to him?

maybe he knows how to use utorrents?

very unlikely

I was being sarcastic. The simple thought of it makes me laugh. 

[jarmo]

basicly if Slash opens his mouth Jarmo, JB etc will bitch, it doesn't matter what he says, they will find something a reason to bitch about it.

Wrong. He's free to talk about his own band, record, action figure, performing with the Best Buy band or whatever.

But he just can't stop talking about Axl can he?


Remember that one time when he said he was done talking about Axl/GN'R?

And it lasted for that one interview....



I'm glad he says he likes the music. But what would've happened if he said the opposite? Wouldn't it have made him seem bitter?



Maybe it'll mean the Slash fans can get over the fact that it's not AFD now...





/jarmo

[alejoyp]

He says something positive about GnR and still there's outrage! Poor ol' Slash can't win can he? 

No, the problem is him "reviewing" the record before it's out.

First he says he wishes the leaker will rot in jail and then he goes on to talk about an album that's not out yet.

So, how did he get it?

He sure as hell didn't go and buy it.

Someone gave it to him?

Isn't that what the leaker used as his defense?





/jarmo

Do you know where or what did Slash hear the cd? Or which one gave him the music?
Baz reviewed CD several times... n' so many others (for example David Wild)...
We know that those people heard the cd because of Axl or with his permission so there's no problem...
Also a lot of musicians or producers involved in the project n' people form Universal or form the industry...
We didn't know if Slash listened to the leaks or who gave the music...
maybe Axl? who knows!

[lynn1961]

I just don't understand the reasoning, here.  Someone asked him about it - he answered.  He answered positively - he didn't give a "review".  He could have slammed it, I suppose, but he didn't.  Why shouldn't he have heard some of it? or have received a copy?   He used to be in that band, so I'm sure he still has some connections, somewhere.   And he's free to talk about whatever the fuck he wants, and to answer questions, when asked, even if it is about Axl, again.  He used to be in the band, an integral part of the band - so I'm sure people who do interviews are going to, logically, bring that up.      

Yeah, if he'd answered the opposite, he'd be accused of being bitter.  So, he answers positively, and he "just can't stop talking about Axl" and he "wants to be back in the band", according to some of the above posts.  

[GNR4L]

Slash is one of the Top 5 greatest guitarist ever there's not doubt about it.  Just  hasn't reinvented himself and he seems stuck in the past.  He said he wrote his book to stop talking about GnR and he seems to still talks about the old band.  I hate to break it to you guys the old band ain't coming back. 

[kaasupoltin]

ok first off Richard wasn't presenting a award he was playing Rhianna's band BIG DIFFRENCE !!!! and im sure about 2 percent of that crowd knew that Richard was playing up there.  Second of all this is the first time i've heard Del say anything about Slash ! and let me remind you.  Just because your guitar hero plays the same ol riff over and over again and looks like he did 20 years ago, doesn't mean he was telling the truth about Axl.  Let's put it this Axl wanted to go in a new direction and slash wasn't talented enough to do so.  Slash can say all the good things he wants about GnR HE AIN'T GETTING BACK IN.

  Slash plays with Fergie. Fortus plays with Rihanna. Oh I get it-its because they're different women!

Your 'guitar hero' (and I do like Fortus) is playing that 'not talented' Slash's riffs. Pot. Kettle. Black.

ok you didn't read what I said " I said Slash wasn't talented enough to play the new material" Slash was up there playing with Fergie as in a duo.  Richard was up there playing as a session player BIG DIFFRENCE.  You can sit there and come up with excuses all day for Slash it ain't gonna work.  It is what it is ! Slash regrets leaving GnR and now he's trying to get into good graces with Axl, after he f*cked Axl over in the press.

If Slash would want to be in good graces with Axl, I wouldn't be that suprised. They spent some great years together, they shared something special, they were very close, they supported each other when there was need for it and blah blah blah.. I think there's enough reason for these two, and all the other "old guys" too, to get into good graces with each other. It has nothing to with wanting back to GN'R or getting their names on the paper.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

Slash will always be asked about GNR. GNR is what made him famous. And if he refused to speak about the band at all, it would look..... odd. It's like Robert Plant being asked about Led Zeppelin. He doesn't seem too keen to have a full-blown reunion and seems happy with his solo career but people ask him questions about the band all the time. Perhaps Slash would like to not speak so much about Guns and focus on new music/VR etc. but people will always be interested.

[$$$$]

Slash should take a page out of Duffs book. he keeps a low profile generally, doesnt really do interviews unless he has something to talk about, and when asked about Axl/GNR he simply says something like " I wish them the best" end of story.

[Agno]

Since a lot of people have gotten attacked for talking about the album when it's not out (not mentioning any names), does this apply for Slash?  


Listening to an album is one thing, but now he's talking to the press about it. And not just "I can't wait to hear it" stuff.


/jarmo

Sebastian Bach has talked alot more about the album than Slash and he has been giving alot more details.. You think that is ok? If not why don't you complain about Sebastian to?