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Quote from: classicgunsfan on November 15, 2008, 02:29:09 PM
Quote from: Shaggins13 on November 14, 2008, 04:51:31 PM
I think "I highly doubt Izzy will be interested" is the way it should be written, IMHO.
Duff said recently that Izzy wants no part of being in the public eye. He probably has more money than we can imagine, enjoys making some quiet music for artistic release/therapeutic purposes, and really likes going around relatively unnoticed by most people on the street. Why would he want to go into some mega-band and all the BS that goes along with it at 46/47 years old?
In a recent interview, izzy said if his time touring with GnR in 2006:
Thiago: You were always described as calm an reserved, someone who does not like to turn or to be far away from home for too long. What made you feel like returning to GnR then?
Izzy: You know, there is a very special connection between listening to Rock n Roll and the desire to experience that again. When you play such energetic songs as Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone or Welcome to the Jungle, there is instantly a connection between the band and the audience. This is something electrifying, and I just had to feel that again
Yeah but there's a difference between guesting on a few shows where the band also doesn't know until the last moment if he's gonna show up and actually committing fully to every show on the tour. I'm a big Izzy fan but every year there's a rumour of Izzy touring wether it's Europe or Argentia, sometimes he even mentions touring himself but I suspect these are just spur in the moment kind of things because if he really wanted to, he'd be really making it happen and would be touring a long time ago..
Izzy was interested in doing an album and some club shows with VR in 2002, they refused, Izzy's just releasing an album each year and doesn't do anything else besides it with the occasional guesting gig each year.
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If only Izzy joined VR back then then there wouldnt be any reason for this search
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I think Izzy would be more concerned with having to wait a couple of hours for the singer to go on stage or if the band members were getting high, or if the singer was just being a pain in the ass. When he left GNR I think it was more because of these issues and not because the band was playing to big audiences. When he says GNR got too big, I think it relates to the entourage of people and the band not being able to get together besides on stage. Therefore, I can see Izzy not having an issue with playing to VR audiences and touring with the band. Besides its not like they are going to do another world breaking UYI tour for 2 years, it will probably be for a few months out of the year then back home.
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after reading slash's book.. i really hope they get a singer that they know and get along with.. lenny kravits would be awsome.. but i don't them to get a guy just because he is a big name.. i hope they get someone that they have real chemistry with.. i know baz isn't a great writer.. and they could end up being seen as a throw back hair band.. but i realy think he is the best choice.. if izzy does most of the writing.. the songs won't be cheesey.. and baz still has a great voice and is a good front man.. when he came in to sing my michelle during the last guns tour.. it really fired me up. it doesn't have to be baz.. but i really hope its someone that the band gets a long with and its not forced just to sell records..
I used to think Baz was an alright choice, but he will bring a lot of baggage and drama with him. It will create a situation that they are trying to avoid which is the "its my way or the highway" attitude because he the lead singer.
This was a problem with Scott which is part of the reason Izzy left in the first place. They need to take a page from Axl's book and say to whoever comes into VR "hey you will be the lead singer, you will contribute, write, and will be part of this band, but at the end of the day if we do not like something we have final say period." So don't bitch or whine because we will not waste time arguing about this shit.
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after reading slash's book.. i really hope they get a singer that they know and get along with.. lenny kravits would be awsome.. but i don't them to get a guy just because he is a big name.. i hope they get someone that they have real chemistry with.. i know baz isn't a great writer.. and they could end up being seen as a throw back hair band.. but i realy think he is the best choice.. if izzy does most of the writing.. the songs won't be cheesey.. and baz still has a great voice and is a good front man.. when he came in to sing my michelle during the last guns tour.. it really fired me up. it doesn't have to be baz.. but i really hope its someone that the band gets a long with and its not forced just to sell records..
I used to think Baz was an alright choice, but he will bring a lot of baggage and drama with him. It will create a situation that they are trying to avoid which is the "its my way or the highway" attitude because he the lead singer.
This was a problem with Scott which is part of the reason Izzy left in the first place. They need to take a page from Axl's book and say to whoever comes into VR "hey you will be the lead singer, you will contribute, write, and will be part of this band, but at the end of the day if we do not like something we have final say period." So don't bitch or whine because we will not waste time arguing about this shit.
They just have to stay away from people with habits. Sure, the VR guys (with the exception of Dave) all had their issues with sobriety, or lack thereof, but they managed to maintain a certain standard of operation, whereas Scott was just bad news from the get-go (we all saw VH1's InsideOut, right?). This is why I have little faith in the current STP reunion. I love Scott's talent, but the man is not healthy. So whoever they (Slash, Duff, Matt and Dave) choose, I truly hope they go with a clean, sober and mentally stable guy...for longevity's sake.
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after reading slash's book.. i really hope they get a singer that they know and get along with.. lenny kravits would be awsome.. but i don't them to get a guy just because he is a big name.. i hope they get someone that they have real chemistry with.. i know baz isn't a great writer.. and they could end up being seen as a throw back hair band.. but i realy think he is the best choice.. if izzy does most of the writing.. the songs won't be cheesey.. and baz still has a great voice and is a good front man.. when he came in to sing my michelle during the last guns tour.. it really fired me up. it doesn't have to be baz.. but i really hope its someone that the band gets a long with and its not forced just to sell records..
I used to think Baz was an alright choice, but he will bring a lot of baggage and drama with him. It will create a situation that they are trying to avoid which is the "its my way or the highway" attitude because he the lead singer.
This was a problem with Scott which is part of the reason Izzy left in the first place. They need to take a page from Axl's book and say to whoever comes into VR
"hey you will be the lead singer, you will contribute, write, and will be part of this band, but at the end of the day if we do not like something we have final say period." So don't bitch or whine because we will not waste time arguing about this shit.
I'm sure top notch singers will love that kind of attitude right from the beginning
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If is a nobody of course he will. You can be a nobody and a great singer!
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Quote from: overmatik on November 18, 2008, 12:46:40 PM
If is a nobody of course he will. You can be a nobody and a great singer!
I just think hiring a nobody would be the final nail in that coffin, commercially speaking at least.
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Yeah, I know, but the problem is that supergroups never work, so whatever big name they bring in it will end up in mess. See Audioslave, for example.
If they could get an unknown guy, but very good, with time they would grow again and get new fans. Contraband was 2Xplatinum, but then with Libertad they were old news...
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Quote from: overmatik on November 18, 2008, 10:39:20 PM
Yeah, I know, but the problem is that supergroups never work, so whatever big name they bring in it will end up in mess. See Audioslave, for example.
If they could get an unknown guy, but very good, with time they would grow again and get new fans. Contraband was 2Xplatinum, but then with Libertad they were old news...
If they brought in an unknown guy, he would have to be a great songwriter. I thought Scott's contributions to a record like Contraband were a bit underrated. He added some solid melodies to what was an otherwise fairly generic hard rock record. Listen to his solo song "Missing Cleveland". It's poppy, catchy, and it works. Sure, it's nothing we haven't heard before but...VR was never exactly reinventing the wheel anyways. They're going to miss his presence more than they realize.
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But even the last time Slash was the one that pushed for them to look for a "undiscovered talented singer"
and it would be kool even if the new singer is a unknown person if with him they play some old GNR songs
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If they brought in an unknown guy, he would have to be a great songwriter. I thought Scott's contributions to a record like Contraband were a bit underrated. He added some solid melodies to what was an otherwise fairly generic hard rock record. Listen to his solo song "Missing Cleveland". It's poppy, catchy, and it works. Sure, it's nothing we haven't heard before but...VR was never exactly reinventing the wheel anyways. They're going to miss his presence more than they realize.
I think the best scenario for VR is that they bring in a big name singer to almost guarantee their success. Bringing in an unknown is going to be bigger risk unless the guy is amazing talent, like an undiscovered Axl. Someone who writes amazing lyrics and has great stage presence and obviously gets along with the band and has no drug issues. It could happen with the internet and youtube... that guy may be out there but they have got to look and be proactive.
With regards to Scott... I feel some of his contributions are a bit underrated, but I also believe that a lot of of his contributions are subpar. For example his live performances are always hit or miss. Sometimes his voice live sounds like shit other times he sounds pretty good. I hate it when VR sounds kick ass and then his voice sounds like shit it really ruins the performance.
I also felt that he wrote a lot of great songs with STP. I feel his contributions to VR are good but not his best work like something is lacking but I cannot put my finger on it. Musically VR sounds great but the lyrics and Scotts singing I feel that they are o.k. but nothing like Sex Type Thing, Vasoline, Plush, Interstate Love Song, etc.
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I know what you mean. It really holds VR back; the songs could have been amazing, scott just made them. .not freaking mind-blowingly awesome....=(
Like she builds quick machines... the riff is fat as, but the vocals just make the song average
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Yea cuz i like the VR guitar and drum parts
but the singing wasnt at that same level with Scot so i was sad bout that
thats why i think the new person VR is lookin for will have to be able to sing most of the old GNR songs to and that would the fuckin sweet
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From Matt Sorum's website... he says:
Going to get rocking with Velvet revolver again real soon. I have been talking a lot with Slash and Duff and Dave about getting back in the studio, we're going to try out a couple of singers.
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From Matt Sorum's website... he says:
Going to get rocking with Velvet revolver again real soon. I have been talking a lot with Slash and Duff and Dave about getting back in the studio, we're going to try out a couple of singers.
someone tell him to try out izzy and get this thing started!
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From Matt Sorum's website... he says:
Going to get rocking with Velvet revolver again real soon. I have been talking a lot with Slash and Duff and Dave about getting back in the studio, we're going to try out a couple of singers.
someone tell him to try out izzy and get this thing started!
I think Matt is the only one in Velvet Revolver right now.
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I think they should really try to get Izzy on board. They could write some great songs together as they always have and create a much needed buzz with another former GNR member. They can di the 3 guitarist thing like GNR. They will always be associated with GNR so they might as well embrace it and go with it. It is part of their appeal in their first place. Izzy would be like the missing link that would excite people again about seeing what kind of music we could expect with his contributions. It would be the closest thing to the original GNR in recent years.
Now that CD has been released there will be a full court press by the media to create a GNR vs. VR rivalry. VR will need to go in well prepared and really focus on the material they release and the lead singer they get. That means no more recording an album in 3 months with the first producer that walks through the door. They will need to work with the Rick Rubins of the world and challenge themselves to create a really great album next time around to prove that they are here for the long haul even if it takes them a year to produce. Otherwise they will be seen as another failed Supergroup.
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Nov 26th 2008
Slash tells Spinner that when Velvet Revolver formed, that was kind of the initial idea. "We wrote a ton of s--- that was really heavy, and it was sort of what you'd expect us to sound like," he says. "And then it changed to fit the whole Scott [Weiland] vibe."
It's a vibe that, Slash says, never fully suited the band. With Weiland now out of the picture, Velvet Revolver is looking for a new singer (um, we know of one boys ... aw, nevermind ... it'd never work). "It's a hard job; it's a hard spot to fill," Slash says. "But I think we can really put together a record where people will be like, 'Now that's what I'm talking about!'" Awesome.
http://www.spinner.com/2008/11/26/velvet-revolver-aim-to-sound-like-guns-n-roses-sorta/
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Nov 26th 2008
Slash tells Spinner that when Velvet Revolver formed, that was kind of the initial idea. "We wrote a ton of s--- that was really heavy, and it was sort of what you'd expect us to sound like," he says. "And then it changed to fit the whole Scott [Weiland] vibe."
It's a vibe that, Slash says, never fully suited the band. With Weiland now out of the picture, Velvet Revolver is looking for a new singer (um, we know of one boys ... aw, nevermind ... it'd never work). "It's a hard job; it's a hard spot to fill," Slash says. "But I think we can really put together a record where people will be like, 'Now that's what I'm talking about!'" Awesome.
Yea I cant wait till they find that singer that was ment to be for this great rock band
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