Shackler's Revenge Discussion

[Zartan]

I didnt like this song one bit at first.  But man has it grown on me. I love it

I agree.  At first I had mixed feelings about it.  But now I can't stop listening to it.

[D]

I would like to know if  a legal download of the song will surface in the near time. I want to hear that "master recording"

It'll be on the album. 




/jarmo

 

I read that wrong at first and thought Jarmo said "I'll Be on the album"


"If The World" Featuring Jarmo on Tamborine!

[FunkyMonkey]

From the September issue of Guitars And Gaming Magazine, an article with Eric Brosius Audio Director with Harmonix.  He discusses the process...

Here is some of the article titled "Where Do Rock Band Songs Come From?"

Step 3 Remixing

With a deal in hand, Eric works with an engineer from the record label who has access to the multi track master tapes or digital recording sessions. 

Assuming the masters can be used, they?re custom remixed for Eric?s unique needs and digitized as a Pro Tools session.  From here on it?s all Harmonix.

Step 4 Implementing

?Once it gets here, we do a little bit of dressing up,? says Eric, which includes, say, mixing multiple guitar parts down to just what the game will use.  And although there are only four player positions, you might be still be hearings seven to 10 discrete tracks of audio, which are then combined into just one track for efficient disc streaming.

Now it?s a matter of mapping out the notes.  For Expert difficulty, ?we try as much as we can to do a note-for-note transcription,? says Eric.  ?The drums are not that subjective - there?s not that much interpretation.  There?s more with the guitar and bass, because we?re trying to crunch 22 frets into five.  There?s a lot of time spent so that the way we reduce it down to five frets feels like playing the guitar.?

For the parts below Expert, notes are simply removed, and the ?important? ones are retained.  Eric say playing drums is ?more about the independence of your limbs,? so the easier paths let you move, say, your right foot and right arm in sync instead of making them work independently.  The final playing patterns go through several iterations based on the order of the presentation, so earlier Easy songs are simpler that the later Easy songs.  The game constantly tries to train you for the next skill level up.

The completed note maps are encoded as MIDI data; Rock Band then runs the data in sync with the music.  That MIDI file also trigger light changes, camera angles, and animations, such as the singer?s stage-dive at the final chorus of ?Learn to Fly.?  Artist create those elements, but since the audio team know the songs measure by measure, they program the MIDI file to tell the game what to show and when.

From there, it?s tested by the QA team and ultimately either burned to disc or prepped for release as downloadable content.  By the time it hits your Xbox, it?s been the work of several people over several months.

[junglegunner]

the separate master tracks are great  !!!!!!!!!!! 

you can now clearly here BBF  !!!!

the vocal track 

[jarmo]

The game is out on Playstation 3 today, in North America.

Which means more people will be able to hear the new GN'R track.



/jarmo

[LunsJail]

I didnt like this song one bit at first.  But man has it grown on me. I love it

I agree.  At first I had mixed feelings about it.  But now I can't stop listening to it.

At first listen, I thought the song was a hot mess of sound.  But after a few listens I absolutely love it.  Can't get that chorus out of my head.

[GnR-NOW]

and you can really hear BBF around the middle of the song

[FunkyMonkey]

Rock Band 2 PS3/Wii/PS2 Ship Dates
Press Release

Harmonix and MTV Games, along with distribution partner Electronic Arts, today announced that Rock Band 2 for the PLAYSTATION 3 will be available on October 19, 2008. In addition, Rock Band 2 for the PlayStation 2 and the Wii will ship in December 2008.

In addition, the Rock Band 2 Special Edition Bundle for the Xbox 360 will also be available on retail shelves October 19, 2008.

Rock Band 2 Shipping and Pricing Information:

October 19, 2008
- Rock Band 2 Special Edition Bundle (Xbox 360 and PLAYSTATION 3 system) $189.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Software (PLAYSTATION 3 system) $59.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Drums (PLAYSTATION 3 and PlayStation 2 systems) $89.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Guitar (PLAYSTATION 3 and PlayStation 2 systems) $69.99 MSRP

December 2008
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Software (PlayStation 2 system) $49.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Software (Wii) $49.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Drums (Wii) $89.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Standalone Guitar (Wii) $69.99 MSRP
- Rock Band 2 Special Edition Bundle (Wii) $189.99 MSRP

http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/2794

[whiny]

and you can really hear BBF around the middle of the song

at first i didn't like the bumble solo, now i'm totally in love with it. some of the new gnr tracks are real growers.

shackler is a good nr. 2 track (on cd) in my opinion.

[axl2]

Shacklers is really something like I haven't heard before. At first I liked it...Then I had reservations then after I figured out what it was I definitely liked it. Not as a front line song, but as a fun "filler" ( don't really wanna call it that, because it sounds almost like Im disrespecting the song, but compared to the other songs we've heard.) type song, on this CD.

[Thorned Rose]

I'm not sure if someone has already done this, but here they are.

[No way in hell I look through these pages]

I've got a funny feeling there's something wrong today
I've got a funny feeling and it won't go away

I've got an itchy finger and there'll be hell to pay
I'm gonna pull the trigger and blow them all away

Don't ever try to tell me how much you care for me
Don't ever try to tell me how you were there for me

I don't believe there's a reason (I hope you see this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I don't regret this)

I've got a wicked demon inside that never fades
I've got an empty feeling I won't be home today

Don't ever try to tell me how much you care for me
Don't ever try to tell me how you were there for me

I don't believe there's a reason (I hope you see this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I don't regret this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I hope you see this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I don't regret this)

I want you to stop and help out with doing what you want to do
No one is guilty here now, there's nothing new now

I don't believe there's a reason (I hope you see this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I don't regret this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I hope you see this)
I don't believe there's a reason (I don't regret this)


These are official as I can tell.

Axl has never dissapointed in lyrics.

[jarmo]

Microsoft Says ?Rock Band,? ?Guitar Hero? Average 3.8 Million Downloads Per Month

10/21/08, 9:00 am EST
While the music industry struggles to sell CDs, Microsoft revealed yesterday that gamers purchase around 3.8 million Guitar Hero and Rock Band downloads per month via their XBox Live network. Between all versions of the two titles, the pair have sold around 45 million song downloads at a typical price of $1.99 each. Since the 360-exclusive release of Rock Band 2 in mid-September, the game has thus far sold 363,000 copies. RB2 was finally released for PlayStation 3 this past weekend, while the Wii release arrives in December. Meanwhile, Guitar Hero: World Tour, complete with drums and microphone add-ons to compete with Rock Band, hits stores this Sunday.


http://www.rollingstone.com/






/jarmo

[JuicySwoos]

^^...nice......the game is really fun...I am hoping for GNR/Chinese Dem downloadable content....would be a blast to play the whole album on RB

[jarmo]

Since the 360-exclusive release of Rock Band 2 in mid-September, the game has thus far sold 363,000 copies.

And on http://www.vgchartz.com/aweekly.php is says:

Pos	Console	Name	Publisher	Week	Weekly	Total
11	X360	Rock Band 2	Electronic Arts	4	42,576	527,946

What is VG Chartz?
VG Chartz is the only tracking service in the world dedicated to providing point-of-sale retail estimates of worldwide videogame buying trends to the public for free. VG Chartz estimated sell-through figures are arrived at by tracking sample data from an ever-expanding panel of retail partners and benchmarking the sample data against known reference points (manufacturer shipment figures for example). VG Chartz has been cited in a number of videogame industry articles in publications such as Fortune, Business 2.0, Forbes, The Telegraph, The Guardian, New York Times, S?ddeutsche Zeitung, Guiness Book of World Records and the New York Post to name but a few.


/jarmo

                  

[russtcb]

I like the mixing on this track as well as the solo, that's about all I can say. I don't like the lyrics. Other then the "no one is stopping you..." bridge, nothing is really catchy on this song for me. Based on the bridge, mixing and solo I can only award it a point or two.
1.5/5

[Journeyman]

its one of the more cacthy songs of the album. It really stays in our head! The Chorus is specially good!!

[mikestone]

one of the best songs on the album !! 5/5

catchy,heavy,kick-ass what more do u want 

[uzisuicide2002]

I love this song! It makes me want to hear a new verson of Oh My God. And goes good at number 2 on the album.  5/5

[DuffRock]

I like the mixing on this track as well as the solo, that's about all I can say. I don't like the lyrics. Other then the "no one is stopping you..." bridge, nothing is really catchy on this song for me. Based on the bridge, mixing and solo I can only award it a point or two.
1.5/5

Agreed.

However, I've come to dislike it less since hearing 'This I Love'; knowing that Axl can write dross like the lyrics in that song makes me have newfound respect for those which are even minimally less shit.

[Mechanical-Worm]

I find this to be the song everyone loves to death or hates it from existing.

I like it.