Shackler's Revenge Discussion

[axl2]

Well that song sounds nothing like a GNR song or how it was described so I doubt they are related at all.

[Jada]

So Shackler is a Buckethead song, and Shackler's Revenge is a film score Bucket's played on, and then there is Shackler's Revenge Chinese Democracy edition. Okay, now I get it. i was a bit confused at first when I saw that pic of Bucket's resume, LOL!

Maybe he (Axl) just stole the title of that film score. Or a guitar solo, who knows.

[ppbebe]

allow me to quote this saul comments about GNR's Shackler's Revenge again. He thinks the music is originally from the score.

The basic song structure was written by Bucket and Brain. Big B did a score for a film of the same name (never released) From what I can gather Axl liked the plot/ideas of the story and crafted lyrics behind the music. It's supposed to be a pretty guitar driven rocker of a song with an amazing hook/bridge.

and yet poppy and different,  according to the game maker.

the title alone can excite our curiosity. 

[Jada]

^ Yeah, I think he most likely used parts of Bucket's songs.. Does anyone know what the story behind that indie film / b-movie is? Is it also anime?

[D]

I wish we knew when we could hear this puppy. 

Maybe before September 14th, I mean.

Glad u changed your mind about Rock stars appearing on video games:

[Saul]

allow me to quote this saul comments about GNR's Shackler's Revenge again. He thinks the music is originally from the score.

The basic song structure was written by Bucket and Brain. Big B did a score for a film of the same name (never released) From what I can gather Axl liked the plot/ideas of the story and crafted lyrics behind the music. It's supposed to be a pretty guitar driven rocker of a song with an amazing hook/bridge.

and yet poppy and different,  according to the game maker.

the title alone can excite our curiosity. 

No, it seems people have misunderstood a small part of what I said entirely. It's all new music. Not music taken from the score of the film. 

[PJ]

yep
shackler song of DBZ is one thing
the shacklers revescnge ore that is in bh's FAQ another
and then we have GNR's shackler revenge, that is a song that axl wrote lyrics inspired after BH told him the history of the unrealased movie that he scored

[mrbucketfoot]

Glad u changed your mind about Rock stars appearing on video games:

I don't care about them being in a video game. My issue was about them being on the cover of the game. Especially if it's one where they have a very small part.

[ppbebe]

I won't mind even if GNR are on the cover of the game as far as the art is nice.

No, it seems people have misunderstood a small part of what I said entirely. It's all new music. Not music taken from the score of the film. 

 due to the way you wrote.

so, there's 3 totally different tunes/ musical pieces, and not just 2 in 'shackler' connection.

and, the basic song structure of gnr's shackler's revenge was still written by Bucket and Brain?

[Saul]

I won't mind even if GNR are on the cover of the game as far as the art is nice.

No, it seems people have misunderstood a small part of what I said entirely. It's all new music. Not music taken from the score of the film. 

 due to the way you wrote.

so, there's 3 totally different tunes/ musical pieces, and not just 2 in 'shackler' connection.

and, the basic song structure of gnr's shackler's revenge was still written by Bucket and Brain?

Yes. 

[$$$$]

AHHHHHHH Im going insane knowing this track is out there and I cant hear it!

[D]

Glad u changed your mind about Rock stars appearing on video games:

I don't care about them being in a video game. My issue was about them being on the cover of the game. Especially if it's one where they have a very small part.

U do realize there is a possiblity they will be on the cover to a degree right?


I just dont agree with your statement.

say Axl was an unlockable character in the most awesome "MUSIC" game in the world.

what the hell is wrong with that?

I think its an honor to be thought of so highly as the quintessential frontman of your era and people want to make u IN A GAME to honor and celebrate that when they think of greatest frontman, they think of u.

same with the guitarhero III deal. Nothing sell out or bad about being an ICON and people thinking of u that highly.

The word Sell Out is some stupid underground HATER title placed on bands by other people who werent good enough to make it big anyway.  As a major artist u have to promote and sell yourself, its just the nature of the beast and there isnt a band alive that doesnt do it to some degree. Some do it more than others but all do it, so I find that word offensive and ignorant anyway.

A Band only sells out if they try to become something they are not to stay popular.

[jarmo]

The word Sell Out is some stupid underground HATER title placed on bands by other people who werent good enough to make it big anyway. 

Well, I don't agree.


You can be successful and still not sell out.

It's when you lose your integrity that you sell out.

When you start thinking more about the fame and money than the art itself.


I don't automatically think that a band playing a stadium is a "sell out". It all depends how they got there.



Well, that's my definition....... 



So it's quite possible to appear in a video game, movie, TV series or whatever and not be a sell out.





/jarmo

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

changing the subject from the whining AGAIN!!!!

i wonder how many poeple have heard the song since its been handed over to the game producers. or how many poeple have a sample on their phones not realising they have a piece of priceless gold on them 

[D]

The word Sell Out is some stupid underground HATER title placed on bands by other people who werent good enough to make it big anyway. 

Well, I don't agree.


You can be successful and still not sell out.

It's when you lose your integrity that you sell out.

When you start thinking more about the fame and money than the art itself.


I don't automatically think that a band playing a stadium is a "sell out". It all depends how they got there.



Well, that's my definition....... 



So it's quite possible to appear in a video game, movie, TV series or whatever and not be a sell out.





/jarmo

Exactly but there are very few big bands that havent been called that at one time or the other and I dont think its fair. I remember back when NR came out how u had idiots saying GNR sold out and that song was written before there was a GNR.

so to me, most people just throw that word around at anything popular calls its not "cool" to like something mainstream.


U know, this is a good topic for Bad Obsession..... To The Batmobile!

[gunns1]

Im looking forward to august now,

I think the ball will really start moving then, perhaps 8/8th to ride the wave of the c/olympis hype and publicity, or mabye when its fnished,
who knows

But thats when I see gnr camp making another announcement...

[GNFNR-UK]

Ron is a master guitarist, why would he not be capable of playing this song? 

Agreed. I don't get why people think Ron can't handle BH duties.

I don't mean to take anything away from Bumblefoot, he is an extremely talented player in his own right and seems like a really nice guy but his rendition of the TWAT solo in particular just didn't hold up to the original, watch the Hammerstein video.

[jazjme]

^ NO disrespect,  but you do know that mat Hammerstein he had only 2 weeks to rehersh all the tunes with the band, now come on.......Your statement is a bit harsh there. And thre is no diffintivce origional ..lol all we had was demos.

[russtcb]

Im looking forward to august now,

I think the ball will really start moving then, perhaps 8/8th to ride the wave of the c/olympis hype and publicity, or mabye when its fnished,
who knows

But thats when I see gnr camp making another announcement...

Yeah I heard the same rumor you're re-posting.

[Bandita]

^ NO disrespect,  but you do know that mat Hammerstein he had only 2 weeks to rehersh all the tunes with the band, now come on.......Your statement is a bit harsh there. And thre is no diffintivce origional ..lol all we had was demos.

What he said!

But here's a clue to anyone who needs one:

WE don't get to determine the GNR lineup, no matter how much WE whine on here about what we want.