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« on: July 04, 2008, 01:04:02 AM »


- The album is done done....like really finalized this time, without any chance of going back to re-work things, as confirmed by several band members in the last 6-8 months.
- GN'R has topline and expensive management in place, and two of them. In theory, the best in the business.
- The current bunch is very talanted and stable, likely ready to carry the load of hard work, pressure, and public exposure.
- No big law suits against Axl or GN'R lately that could introduce more delays.
- From what we've heard Axl seems to be at inner peace and happy in his personal life.
- Again from what we've heard the band is eager to go back on the road. It's not like they are not ready or the timing is bad or that they can't find a touring guitar player.
- The Olympic Games are in China.
- The Dr Pepper offer is unprecedented and if taken advantage of, chances are the entire US (and beyond) will hear about GN'R and CD.
- I know alot of crap has been said about UMG from GN'R fans. But this is still probably the most powerful label out there. Which may be the problem for the delays but that's another story. The point is if UMG wants to release CD and release it big, they will. And given the investment, why wouldn't they want to release it big?
- Despite of what some people say, this isn't a one man project and therefore cannot and should not be held up forever. There are so many livelihoods tied up into this and for the better part of a decade that it just makes human sense that the true intention is to release the record as soon as possible and even make some compromises if need be.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 01:06:41 AM »

Its seems like a dam good time.. But so was 06/07
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2008, 01:13:51 AM »

Yes, I agree, very good time.

Most have positive feelings from the tour in 2006, the Dr. Pepper promotion, and the Olympics in China.
I think for the first time in history, people are waiting for the album in a positive way and expecting
great things from Axl and GN'R.

It's definitely a great time to release the album.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2008, 03:08:27 AM »

Why are people happy about the Dr Pepper thing? That was a diss on GNR and how long the album is/has taken.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 03:54:35 AM »

Why are people happy about the Dr Pepper thing? That was a diss on GNR and how long the album is/has taken.

GN'R didn't seem to think it was a "diss". Based on their press release concerning the matter, they were quite flattered.

And yes, '08 would be a good year. But I've been saying that every year since '98.  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 06:14:38 AM »

I still liked 2002-headlining the VMA's, the new tour-it was all lined up then-I think the music business has drastically changed since then even, I'm a GNR fan, so I don't care, I'll always be a fan, but I think 2002 was viewed more as his "comeback"-I still think he will get a slwe of media coverage from print because he has done so little press through the years, and he has an interesting story to tell-they reallly need to line it up with a tour and hit a home run with the first single
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 07:56:38 AM »

2000/2001...Oh my God released n' GN'R play Vegas and RIR 3..Also album was rumored for that June..
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 08:26:24 AM »

2008 is a great time to release cd,  but more so 06/07
but now that the record is "finished"

I think Irzing and friends are going to plan a major release of cd, plus perhaps guitar hero/rockband gnr, or some other forms of media
to gain even more exposure and profit for the band and record company, all in one big swoop..

strike while the kettles hot kinda thing...

mabye thats why the release has been holding off, their covering all basis, from music to video games, to contracts to everything instead of just releasing
1. the cd
2. then entering the entertainment market.
3. Tour .. etc

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 09:04:15 AM »

I think Irzing mentioned in the Wall Street Jounal that Guns are one of several bands with a deal lined up for guitar hero-they are going to try and market the hell out of things when the time is right
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 10:10:42 AM »

The last 3 years have truly been an amazing time to be a gunner fan. I got to see them perform twice in 2006 (with some killer new songs performed),  they wrapped up a very successful tour in 2007 (and we were able to hear Axl on Baz's album), and now in 2008 -  arguably the most anticipated rock album in music history is currently being negotiated for a release.

The good news is I think the best is yet to come.  beer
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 10:11:41 AM »

I think I participated in this discussion in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 11:15:35 AM »

It is a favorable time, agreed.  BUT, the year is just about half over now and their is no release date in sight.  I know we're not privy to exactly what is going on but I'd like to think that we'd get a feel or some sort of word that things are close before the album comes out, and we haven't heard anything yet.  I'm not trying to be negative and I do realize that we are closer than we have ever been but that doesn't mean that it's just around the corner.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 11:27:56 AM »

It's favorable because unlike 2003,2004,2005.  There is a lot of GNR activity in 2008, they had a successful world 2006, successful tour in 2007, some positivie press and events in 2008.  So it would make sense to release an album during the GNR "live period-06-08", unlike another dead period "03-05"
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 11:48:43 AM »

It's favorable because unlike 2003,2004,2005.  There is a lot of GNR activity in 2008, they had a successful world 2006, successful tour in 2007, some positivie press and events in 2008.  So it would make sense to release an album during the GNR "live period-06-08", unlike another dead period "03-05"

I think it would "make sense" to release the album once all negotiations are finalized and the necessary promotion is in place. What I think doesn't "make sense" is the fanbase trying to dictate when Axl should release the album. This is his work and I hope he still has some say, along with Universal, in regards to when we will get to hear his completed work.   Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 12:02:40 PM »

But what about Robin?
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2008, 12:18:24 PM »

What about him, he's with NIN again, if he comes back.....fucking great!!!!! If not  Sad, but I think Axl would know how and where to find someone as equally talented if it ever came to that. I think Robin may return though.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2008, 12:20:24 PM »

But what about Robin?

Really

I mean, there "some" good things happening right now....but the beginning of 2006 smokes this.......big time

A tour was starting then, dynamite shows at the Hammerstein, Izzy jamming onstage, a solid replacement for Bucket, new songs, Axl doing interviews and suggesting the album was actually done..........Things were very , very good back then

Right now, there's still a few too many questions un-answered to compare this time to 2 years ago..
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2008, 01:02:24 PM »

No time like the present I guess!!!
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2008, 01:22:17 PM »

I think anytime in the last 17yrs would have been great.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2008, 01:24:45 PM »

What about him, he's with NIN again, if he comes back.....fucking great!!!!! If not  Sad, but I think Axl would know how and where to find someone as equally talented if it ever came to that. I think Robin may return though.

Robin's guitar parts are pretty signature - you can tell it is him playing.

If Robin does not come back to GNR who would replace him? Or could they get by with just BBF and Richard on tour?
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