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« on: June 08, 2008, 04:41:05 AM »

 1.) The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

2.) The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

3.) The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

4.) The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg. 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

5.) The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganization. After over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy it's finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or shareholders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C.914

6.) The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

7.) The UN through the IMF issues Social Security Numbers. The Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5 forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 ( (2) (2) Read the cites above)

8.) There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178)

9.) There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178)

10.) According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826)

11.) Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)

12.) Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF, which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.)

13.) You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

14.) The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

15.) The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)

16.) The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

17.) You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay &Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

18.) America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)

19.) Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

20.) The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

21.) A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

22.) The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

23.) The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

24.) The Popes laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)

25.) We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children.(Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 &73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

26.) Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.)

27.) " The People" does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor &City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)

28.) The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)

29.) It is not the duty of the police to protect you !. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.

30.) Everything in the "United States" is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath Lake? Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)

31.) We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 04:41:54 AM »

What are you? Some American wannabe?

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 04:45:25 AM »

If it helps you.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 05:04:10 AM »

Some of his arguments are valid. See the "Articles Of Confederation".

Another argument, George lll did not recognize the US; the treaty signed recognized the sovereignty of the individual states.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 05:16:25 AM »

1.) The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency.

Yes it is. 

Do you have a source for this nonsense?

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 05:23:23 AM »

It's listed right next to it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 05:23:59 AM »

It's listed right next to it.

I meant the list itself.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 05:29:35 AM »

Do you perceive motivation to be more important than court documents? I don't know who wrote it, nor does it matter. Each point are individually referenced.

However, you can find additional reference here.

The one you were looking for in particular:

The I.R.S. Is Not A Government Agency

I particularly like this one:

"The ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership" is only by virtue of government, i.e., law amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State.? (Senate Document No. 43, 73 Congress, 1st Session)
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 05:46:48 AM »

US District Courts have recognized that the IRS is unconstitutional. There have been several judgements where the defendants have been found "not guilty" for tax evasion.

Google it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2008, 05:58:09 AM »

Diversified Metal Products, Inc., Plaintiff v. T-Bow Company Trust, Internal Revenue Service and Steve Morgan, Defendants, page 4, item #4:

In the Complaint for Impleader, prepared by the attorneys for plaintiff, page one, item #4:

Defendant Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is an agency of the United States government which has presented to Plaintiff a lien against monies to which Defendant Steve Morgan, or presumably Defendant T-Bow Company Trust for him, may be entitled.


Response from Betty Richardson, United States Attorney, Box 32, Boise, Idaho 83707. Civil No. 93-405-E-EJL:

Denies (the U.S. government) that the Internal Revenue Service is an agency of the United States government but admits that the United States of America would be a proper party to this action.  Admits that the IRS has served a Notice of Levy on plaintiff for funds owed to defendant Steve Morgan.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2008, 07:18:34 AM »

Another classic case of little pieces of paper don't mean shit.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2008, 07:38:29 AM »

Another classic case of little pieces of paper don't mean shit.

Pieces of paper are what gives you food, shelter, health care, education and most importantly, rights.

A piece of paper is what enabled Hitler to win the election.
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 09:42:28 AM »

As a people we should keep an eye on what our government is doing, we keep them in check.  When we let them take away the 2nd amendment we're in trouble. (or the 1st amendment)

Good job on finding this, Polluxlm. I'm not discrediting your find, but I'm not sure how much weight this list carries though, how many of these decisions have been overturned?
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2008, 11:16:05 AM »

The list is composed by Stephen Ames, political prisoner in Pennsylvania.

More to follow.
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 11:41:20 AM »

As a people we should keep an eye on what our government is doing, we keep them in check.  When we let them take away the 2nd amendment we're in trouble. (or the 1st amendment)

Good job on finding this, Polluxlm. I'm not discrediting your find, but I'm not sure how much weight this list carries though, how many of these decisions have been overturned?


No idea. I doesn't seem likely though, that 'secret' orders would be overturned. Especially if you don't really know that they exist or what they represent. And of course, if there is no real 'government', as this list proposes, it would be counterproductive to do so.

I'm petitioning to get all the background information from the author.
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 03:33:12 PM »

As a people we should keep an eye on what our government is doing, we keep them in check. 


haha, please.


You have done nothing but advocate the opposite.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2008, 03:55:46 PM »

Do you perceive motivation to be more important than court documents?

"Court documents" could be anything, and have no inherent credibility. 

I tried looking up that document in particular, and was referred to silly "illuminati" sites featuring that list you just posted.
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2008, 06:25:45 PM »

Do you perceive motivation to be more important than court documents?

"Court documents" could be anything, and have no inherent credibility. 

I tried looking up that document in particular, and was referred to silly "illuminati" sites featuring that list you just posted.

The same websites that say George Bush is part of a Satanic Cult?

I love those people, they are nutty as hell. hihi
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2008, 07:04:42 PM »

"Queen Elizabeth controls and has amended U.S. Social Security" - Stephen Ames.  confused

Well, I for one am totally convinced.
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2008, 07:39:19 PM »

"Queen Elizabeth controls and has amended U.S. Social Security" - Stephen Ames.  confused

Well, I for one am totally convinced.

I wish she would control our damn dollar, maybe it would be worth more? hihi
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