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Quote from: jarmo on May 20, 2008, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: ben785 on May 20, 2008, 06:51:36 PM
And based on what Richard has said, we can be sure the album is with the label now, and there's no reason why it won't come out this year.
That's an assumption made by you.
The album is finished, they're working on its release.
So technically, the release is up to the record company but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're in possession of the masters.
/jarmo
Im sure GNR and theyr managment are doing everything to not make the master come in hands of people who can "loose it"
So i hope they are still holding on to it.. But i guess there is alot of work going on when it comes to a major release like this..
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he also says the other songs for the other albums are finished..
Which is what Baz has also said.
That there's more than one album worth of material.
/jarmo
Even cooler to hear it from a bandmember!
I wonder if GnR manegment are in talks with the lable about the other albums also..
or if its only the release of the first one...
Exactly, its great to hear someone in the band actually say it.
Regarding the management, I think at this point they would only be discussing the release of the first album.
But I think once the first album were to come out, then the rest of the albums should follow without great delay - as Richard said, it hopefully won't take 10 years for the next album, since the management would have negotiated a deal by then
Yeah.. thats the really "good news" about this interview.. and with GnR guitarists start appering in magazines and stuff.. really cool to let people who
dont know about them get to know them =)
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Quote from: jarmo on May 20, 2008, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: ben785 on May 20, 2008, 06:51:36 PM
And based on what Richard has said, we can be sure the album is with the label now, and there's no reason why it won't come out this year.
That's an assumption made by you.
The album is finished, they're working on its release.
So technically, the release is up to the record company but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're in possession of the masters.
/jarmo
Oh sorry, that wasn't my assumption, thats what I understood from the interview, but then again I might have misunderstood the translation, i thought it said "For quite some time now completed and already delivered" - that was from the google translation
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ya, he does say it was completed and delivered in the google translated interview..
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Quote from: ben785 on May 20, 2008, 07:12:23 PM
Quote from: jarmo on May 20, 2008, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: ben785 on May 20, 2008, 06:51:36 PM
And based on what Richard has said, we can be sure the album is with the label now, and there's no reason why it won't come out this year.
That's an assumption made by you.
The album is finished, they're working on its release.
So technically, the release is up to the record company but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're in possession of the masters.
/jarmo
Oh sorry, that wasn't my assumption, thats what I understood from the interview, but then again I might have misunderstood the translation, i thought it said "For quite some time now completed and already delivered" - that was from the google translation
You could be right here ben
this is was the google translation says
"Well, I can tell you that. もうだいぶ前に完成していて、レーベルにもすでに渡している状態だ。 For quite some time now completed and the labels are already being delivered"
but.. lol.. not easy to make "real" sence out of it, but it mentions "labels" and "delivered"
Guess we have to wait for suntorytime`s translation
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Oh yeah, you understood it that way as well Nytunz?
But as you said also, it just could be the way the translation came out since the sentences are jumbled and possibly some words were mistranslated..
Anyway, whether the label actually has the album yet or not, this news is encouraging
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Quote from: ben785 on May 20, 2008, 07:21:49 PM
Oh yeah, you understood it that way as well Nytunz?
But as you said also, it just could be the way the translation came out since the sentences are jumbled and possibly some words were mistranslated..
Anyway, whether the label actually has the album yet or not, this news is encouraging
Yeah...
or..
For quite some time now completed and the labels are already being delivered"
That they have started with delivering of lables..
I wonder if that is good buisness.. brand new label!!! 1.... 2.... 3... sold to the man in black sunglasses!
Good news what so ever! If its deliverd or not?? who cares.. thats not up to us.. im not like.. .worry about they loosing it or something..
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Oh yeah, you understood it that way as well Nytunz?
But as you said also, it just could be the way the translation came out since the sentences are jumbled and possibly some words were mistranslated..
It's something said in English translated into Japanese translated into English.
A few steps where things can get lost...
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Quote from: ben785 on May 20, 2008, 07:21:49 PM
Oh yeah, you understood it that way as well Nytunz?
But as you said also, it just could be the way the translation came out since the sentences are jumbled and possibly some words were mistranslated..
It's something said in English translated into Japanese translated into English.
A few steps where things can get lost...
/jarmo
"Mellan Ting och Text" you find the truth...
thats for sure.. But whatever, a very interesting interview with Fortus. also nice to see that he is out there doing things!
Lets hope he and the Furs plays other countrys than Spain =)
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Am I the only one sort of taken back by this comment? "but he thinks it's an album you either love or hate. hardly a 'so so' comment will come out in his opinion." This, to me, is pretty much an indicator that people looking forward to a 'GNR' record are gonig to be dissapointed. I mean, I like the fact that Axl is taking a new creative approach, but the idea that it is going to be loved or hated doesn't sit well with me. Any one care to comment? Am I misinterpreting the translation?
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Am I the only one sort of taken back by this comment? "but he thinks it's an album you either love or hate. hardly a 'so so' comment will come out in his opinion." This, to me, is pretty much an indicator that people looking forward to a 'GNR' record are gonig to be dissapointed. I mean, I like the fact that Axl is taking a new creative approach, but the idea that it is going to be loved or hated doesn't sit well with me. Any one care to comment? Am I misinterpreting the translation?
Like Axl himself said in 2006:
"I'm trying to do something different. Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen. Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" He then smiles and adds, "But you'll like at least a few songs on there."
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Am I the only one sort of taken back by this comment? "but he thinks it's an album you either love or hate. hardly a 'so so' comment will come out in his opinion." This, to me, is pretty much an indicator that people looking forward to a 'GNR' record are gonig to be dissapointed. I mean, I like the fact that Axl is taking a new creative approach, but the idea that it is going to be loved or hated doesn't sit well with me. Any one care to comment? Am I misinterpreting the translation?
Like Axl himself said in 2006:
"I'm trying to do something different. Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen. Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" He then smiles and adds, "But you'll like at least a few songs on there."
/jarmo
This is the exciting thing! I dont want a new appetite, i dont want new illusion records.. I want to see that GnR`s next move is.. Why do the same things
over and over again.. Its like a new Tool record. You know its gonne be alot different then the last record, but its still Tool...
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The music from Guns n Roses from the last century was magnificent and i love it,but the music that is to come for
this Century
from them is going to be not only awesome , but a masterpiece because of all the time and effort put into it, plus the commitment by Axl to his art.
And for those that didnt love AFD usualy hate it, like my aunt lol
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I wrote a small essay I never felt was good enough to publish, but one thing that I observed about GNR and music and the world as a whole is that lightning rarely strikes in the same place twice.
Star Wars
was released in 1977 and it was arguably the most revolutionary film of all time. The original trilogy is regarded by many fans and critics as the greatest piece of storytelling in cinema history. Then the "new" trilogy was released, Episodes I-III, to mixed and usually negative reviews. They're still entertaining films but the films lost their grounding and there was too much (poorly done) CGI and character relationships took a backseat to action and flash. Also the new films lacked the pseudo-B-movie look that made trilogy so fun to watch. The original series had an interesting setting with memorable characters and a compelling story while the later series was too familiar and ironic. Film Aficionados will remember how
star Wars
was seen by the studios as destined to fail which only pushed Lucas and the rest of the crew to make the best product that they could. The shortsighted movie studio couldn't see the good in the project but only the bottom line and the amount of money that the project was going over-budget.
Fast forward to 2003 and
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
has just swept the 76th Academy Awards. The film is now regarded on the same level (and by some better) than the original
Star Wars
trilogy. Similar to Lucas' groundbreaking franchise,
Rings
mastered character relationships and heartfelt storytelling, an interesting atmosphere and setting, while pushing the limits of computer-generated imagery farther than ever seen before.
Just because the band members that are bringing you
Chinese Democracy
are different than the ones that brought you
Appetite for Destruction
, doesn't mean that it's going to be horrible. Could Episodes I-III of
Star Wars
been just as revolutionary as the original trilogy? It's possible, but highly unlikely, because people get stale and uninspired. The original Guns experienced this, they got to the top and got lazy and uninspired. Everyone who heard about Lucas making three more films in 1994 were overjoyed. They couldn't wait to see the films, but today are they as enthusiastic? Probably not.
Like others have said, this isn't the same band as before and the record this band is putting out isn't Appetite, Lies, or the Illusions, but the band is still Guns N' Roses. Both
Star Wars
and
Lord of the Rings
share many common themes: the concern for justice, the question of the supernatural, the love of nature, and the sentiment that no matter how tyrannical something becomes or how advanced their technology, it is no match for the power of the human spirit. Both bands are dirty, fun, fast paced, pure and hardcore rock n' roll. While the old Guns is like
Star Wars
that they were young, fast and spontaneous while the new Guns is like
Rings
, more dark, mature, and fully-realized. Fans will like one over the other, but a critic and objective observer look will realize the strengths of both bands.
The point of this summation is that there always will be those who don't believe, those who look at petty things like finances, and those who refuse to embrace things because they'd have to admit they were wrong. As long as the record is genuine and Axl and the band pours themselves into it like we think, there is no doubt that the record will be a success.
Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm willing to take a chance.
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Quote from: mrbucketfoot on May 20, 2008, 09:09:18 PM
Just because the band members that are bringing you
Chinese Democracy
are different than the ones that brought you
Appetite for Destruction
, doesn't mean that it's going to be horrible. Could Episodes I-III of
Star Wars
been just as revolutionary as the original trilogy? It's possible, but highly unlikely, because people get stale and uninspired. The original Guns experienced this, they got to the top and got lazy and uninspired. Everyone who heard about Lucas making three more films in 1994 were overjoyed. They couldn't wait to see the films, but today are they as enthusiastic? Probably not.
ok this part im sorry, but there is tons of fans that constantly unload money and are axiously waiting for the next movie and tv series. You will see them again waiting outside theaters again. and they buy books, games, and aciton figures. They are as exited in star wars since the day the first watched epside 4.
But very nice read, and you got some important points of view across, agree on most
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Futher proof we need Robin. Nice interview Richard. Now if you'd just walk down the street and collect him, we can be ready to go.
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Likin the interview, but will anything actually come of it? We've had countless interviews just like this one and NOTHING ever happens. Here's to hoping!
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Quote from: Tyson on May 20, 2008, 07:58:57 PM
Am I the only one sort of taken back by this comment? "but he thinks it's an album you either love or hate. hardly a 'so so' comment will come out in his opinion." This, to me, is pretty much an indicator that people looking forward to a 'GNR' record are gonig to be dissapointed. I mean, I like the fact that Axl is taking a new creative approach, but the idea that it is going to be loved or hated doesn't sit well with me. Any one care to comment? Am I misinterpreting the translation?
Not really. Listening to the leaks, the metalheads and blues rock "purists" who are expecting another AFD probably won't like it
People who liked the more progressive route the UYI's took will enjoy it. The new songs are a lot moodier, modern sounding and more complex than the stuff on AFD so people hoping for that sound probably won't like it as much.
Some of my friends who don't really like the old GnR and are more into stuff like Tool and Muse have been impressed with the new songs, but there's no doubt that some people fiending for the balls to the wall blues rock of AFD won't like it
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Jarmo,
I actually thought about that quote you referenced prior to having written my initial comment. I wonder if any of the leaks fit into the 'atleast a few songs on there that you are going to like" category.
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Quote from: Tyson on May 21, 2008, 12:36:35 AM
Jarmo,
I actually thought about that quote you referenced prior to having written my initial comment. I wonder if any of the leaks fit into the 'atleast a few songs on there that you are going to like" category.
Yes. At least according to Axl in 2006. He said Better, TWAT and The Blues were amongst his favorites on the record.
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Quote from: Tyson on May 21, 2008, 12:36:35 AM
Jarmo,
I actually thought about that quote you referenced prior to having written my initial comment. I wonder if any of the leaks fit into the 'atleast a few songs on there that you are going to like" category.
We can't really assume the musical extent of all the material at this point since we've only heard a few songs from what is possibly 30 or 40 songs if not more, based on the 'multiple album' possibility. What we've heard so far though does have a consistent Guns N Roses sound to it, although more updated and progressive also. Who knows what the rest of it sounds like though..
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