Ideas for what to do when.. it all starts...?

[Cuzon]

Interesting man. Hope its true. Its not too late for a 2008 release. If its gets to September without an annoucement then it ain't coming out 2008 in my opinion...

[jarmo]

What can we, the fans do to help make som buzz around the release.

Number one, buy the album.


Occasionally you see posters saying things like "I want to make sure it's worth the money before buying". What kind of a fan are you?

Spending $10-30 (depending on where you live) on a new GN'R CD is too much?


If it's a lot of money, maybe you could cut down on those Starbucks visits for a few weeks and save the money..... 



/jarmo

[mrbucketfoot]

I know a couple of people myself included buying a couple of copies to give to friends and family. So that'll certainly help if the album gets others excited enough to share.

I'm curious to what the status is. We were getting pretty steady updates in April and since then it seems like all discussion and activity has dropped to a minimum.

[bodine]

I know a couple of people myself included buying a couple of copies to give to friends and family. So that'll certainly help if the album gets others excited enough to share.

I'll definitely be buying more than one copy.  I've taken enough crap from a few folks over the years for continuing to believe in GnR that I'm gonna force this fucker down their throats when it's out!!!

I'm curious to what the status is. We were getting pretty steady updates in April and since then it seems like all discussion and activity has dropped to a minimum.

This is the calm before the storm.  I don't think we'll hear anything else in regards to updates until the details have been worked out, and they can give us a release date they're confident in...  Once that happens, there will be more discussion going on than you'll know what to do with!!!

[Nytunz]

What can we, the fans do to help make som buzz around the release.

Number one, buy the album.


Occasionally you see posters saying things like "I want to make sure it's worth the money before buying". What kind of a fan are you?

Spending $10-30 (depending on where you live) on a new GN'R CD is too much?


If it's a lot of money, maybe you could cut down on those Starbucks visits for a few weeks and save the money..... 



/jarmo

Uh, hope that was not minted on me, because if there is on fucker on this planet that will buy the album, that sure will be mr Nytun!
And sure, thats the first thing to do, when it drops.. But what i was thinking of, with the start of this thread, was getting GNR fans
together and do some stuff, around the release, or when the promotion stuff starts.. Some of us have waited a long time, or, actually
not nessecery waiting, but at least always been interested in GnR. And it would be cool to make some effort to show support!

And, im still going to use my money on Coffie, because coffie fucking rocks.. but im sure to always have enough to buy a couple of albums..

[jarmo]

It wasn't aimed at you, it was just an answer to your question. 



/jarmo

[D]

I will post bulletins, buy a copy on Itunes and a physical release. if there are more than one version, ill buy it also.

[mrbucketfoot]

This is the calm before the storm.  I don't think we'll hear anything else in regards to updates until the details have been worked out, and they can give us a release date they're confident in...  Once that happens, there will be more discussion going on than you'll know what to do with!!!

Hope so man. It's deathly quiet. Eerily quiet.

[horsey]

yeah to buy the cd seems well worth it.and see g n' r as many times as i can in concert.when it does come out  though.i will be blairing it off my deck.while toasting some beers to axl for putting it out.so until then i can wait an see what happens.sometimes it gets to quiet around these parts for news.but it keeps you coming back in hopes each day still.so i will do that for now.have hopes '

[ppbebe]

Occasionally you see posters saying things like "I want to make sure it's worth the money before buying". What kind of a fan are you?

a real fan? 
knowing it will be more than well worth the money judging from the materials heard so far, I personally have no problem with comments like that if they don't come from the 'the band owes me!' 'the band should do this and that!' type fans.

Spending $10-30 (depending on where you live) on a new GN'R CD is too much?


If it's a lot of money, maybe you could cut down on those Starbucks visits for a few weeks and save the money..... 



/jarmo

and if you can't afford your local edition, there's always Amazon us.   

[D]

Best Buy always has new cds for 9.99 when they first come out. so who cant afford that

if u are really poor, Ill buy a copy for u and mail it to u.

[Nytunz]

If you are a Guns N Roses fan, and cant afford to buy a copy of theyr album. Then you should not afford the computer your downloading it from. You should neather affored using your time on a GnR message board. Buy the album, and drink less beer on the releaseparty

[Continental Drift]

We can talk about this until the cows come home if you want to, but it depends entirely on the medium in which the album is released. If released as a download, marketing differs. If released as a hard-copy, marketing differs.

But the important thing is that the album adapts for the digital age. Very few companies and artists have done this, but there are some ahead of the curve. The music and movie industry is rapidly changing and few are adapting, let alone ahead of the curve.

The essential thing is viral marketing and I'd recommend a partnership with Apple. By using a social networking site such as MySpace and Facebook, you allow access to your music for free while generating word of mouth about your product. We all will come into play with this as well. Jarmo tells his friend to buy the album, his friend tells his other friend who doesn't really like the band, who tells his girlfriend, who tells her friends, etc. etc. Word of mouth is very important and viral marketing is the new way to do it.

I don't think that the album will (or should be) free online, however I do believe that digital downloads for the entire album is a great idea. Set prices for different quality, etc., and a partnership with Apple would be very advantageous. By having a partnership with Apple and an official iTunes store, you would allow people to download behind-the-scenes videos and other media (podcasts with Del James and the band members occasionally?) you would also bring in some money that way. A partnership with Apple would gain exposure on their website "Featured Content" and "Top Artists" and also on their iTunes store, which provides a medium to access the material while you bring in "the American Idol" crowd and gain new fans.

Steve Jobs plugging the album or flicking through it during an iPhone/iPod Touch demo at one of the Apple keynotes would instantly inspire thousands of Apple Fanboys to download a single the very least. Nothing against the band, but they need to grow their online community and show concern for their fanbase. Look at that stupid clip of Madonna vaccuuming on YouTube, if Axl said, "Hey what's up this is Axl and me and Baz are going out for drinks later and we just wanted to say hi, we can't wait to see you on tour this fall" or something along those lines, this forum would go bat-shit crazy.

In short I recommend:

• New MySpace Page with songs from the album + MySpace "Chinese Democracy" ads.
• Ability to download the album via GunsNRoses.com with high-quality files for audiophiles.
• Revamped iTunes Store with possible partnership with Apple.
• Content such as videos and podcasts offered free providing rewards and incentives for fans.
• The already in-place Dr. Pepper campaign including TV Commercial.
• Primetime TV spot during popular TV show maximizing the casual GNR crowd.

Anyway, there are pretty much endless possibilities, but Axl is a seasoned vet and Irving and Andy are also smart guys, so I'm sure they'll work out something great.

Excellent post Mr. Bucketfoot! And I agree on all fronts.

If the band and new management could pull all that off, and if the hard core cadre of GN'R fans like ourselves do our part by talking up the album to everyone we know and buying multiple copies (as gifts, etc.)... I don't think anything can hold GN'R back...

[russtcb]

As far as purchasing goes my list remains the same:

1 physical CD copy (assuming it's released as such)

1 vinyl LP copy for my living room wall (again, assuming it's released as such)

1 legal download each of any bonus tracks or alternate mixes that may be released.

And ofcourse tickets to as many future shows I can attend.

[GNR4L]

I think there's alot of pressure for the record company to put this album out due to the DR. Pepper press release.  I doubt the last thing they want to do is blow a good opportunity when it fell right into their laps.  I say release it sept then it would be a big christmas item.

[mrbucketfoot]

Somehow I doubt Dr. Pepper would put that significant pressure on the Record Company. They obviously want the album out probably as quickly as possible while the band wants it out when the time is right. It's probably a war of ideology. I'm sure that it did put some pressure on though. As it would be great, free press and the goal is to have it out by then anyway.

Personally, I think that the best time would be late Summer around August. There's a lot of momentum coming out of Summer and it would hit everyone just at the right time. Then you'd have a nice Fall tour in support.

[Bitch Slap Rappin]

Wow. If this sight and all the other G&R sights are amped for the release of the new G&R cd's than I'm confident that they are going to sell millions and millions of units. This is going to be like the return of Elvis back in 1968!!! We're probably not even going to be able to get tickects to the concerts because it's going to be sold out in the first ten minutes by ticket companies. Than their going to jack up the price twice as much. This is going to be really good.......I can't wait for the sledge-hammer to come down!!!!

[Scabbie]

I'd actually quite like a break - timeout from chasing updates on forums; time to listen and enjoy the music, enjoy GNR's regularly updated website, watch a new film featuring a GNR song, read about the band in the press, understand Axl's story on the making, etc etc

As many people have said I think some of us have been very patient and its only right one day that we will be treated to all of the above - and if GNR do that well they shouldn't need to bother about us having to make street teams or any of that kind of stuff.

Andrew

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

i'm gonna hope Dr. Pepper mixes well with whiskey 

[Thorned Rose]

If it's a lot of money, maybe you could cut down on those Starbucks visits for a few weeks and save the money..... 

/jarmo

Yeah Starbucks blows... and it's the biggest overrated thing I can think of.

But yeah, buy the cd, no matter how much money it is (knock on wood). 

Gn'R is Gn'R even if I don't really care for the new members.

We need to splash the stores... make copies move.