Is it possible.....

[Voodoochild]

What's the big deal with the album being handled anyways? As far as we know it's finished, isn't it enough?

[Oh My Choking Soul]

What's the big deal with the album being handled anyways? As far as we know it's finished, isn't it enough?

Yeah, speaking for myself, not really. I won't be satisfied until Axl is satisfied. Until the day it comes out and we can get past all this Chinese Democracy stuff I will be simply waiting and trying to be patient.

[Mysteron]

The album is finished. It's release is being sorted out.

There is no ceremonial middle ground to this process

[daviebuckethead]

The album is finished. It's release is being sorted out.

There is no ceremonial middle ground to this process

thankx mysteron

thats that then!

[D]

The big deal is, if it is handed in and they are NEGOTIATING

what does that mean?

What is being negotiated?

If it has something to do with money, we could be in for a huge wait because after all they've spent, Id say they are gonna stand firm on certain monetary issues.


I hope all gets sorted soon and they figure out some cool innovative way to release it.

[Smoking Guns]

The album is finished. It's release is being sorted out.

There is no ceremonial middle ground to this process

Thanks for the info!!!  Ceremonial Middle Ground (GMG) 

[jarmo]

What is being negotiated?

Axl's words were "contract negotiations, need to be completed".






/jarmo

[Mysteron]

The big deal is, if it is handed in and they are NEGOTIATING

what does that mean?

What is being negotiated?

If it has something to do with money, we could be in for a huge wait because after all they've spent, Id say they are gonna stand firm on certain monetary issues.


I hope all gets sorted soon and they figure out some cool innovative way to release it.

"Handed in" only applies to homework. It is a dead argument here. The album is either finished or it is not finished.

Why are there negotiations? I, personally, do not know. What is obvious, though, is that times have changed since the last GN'R release. Universal will be looking to make a profit, as will Axl. The internet now is far more promiscous than during the mid-90's. I am sure lots of you here are downloading mf's, and that in itself makes life more difficult for artists and for record companies to make money in this day and age.     

I concur, though, with your last sentence.             

[HBK]

Must Be Problems With The Launch Digital

HBK *

[D]

One would have to think Digital Rights has to be the major point considering there were no such thing when Axl signed that contract.

[GeorgeSteele]

The big deal is, if it is handed in and they are NEGOTIATING

what does that mean?

What is being negotiated?

If it has something to do with money, we could be in for a huge wait because after all they've spent, Id say they are gonna stand firm on certain monetary issues.


I hope all gets sorted soon and they figure out some cool innovative way to release it.

"Handed in" only applies to homework. It is a dead argument here. The album is either finished or it is not finished.
    

The focus on whether it has been "handed in" or "turned in" is probably based on Axl's comment regarding the timing of the release:

"It takes approximately eight weeks for an album to hit the shelves once it has been turned in to the record company"

Perhaps the "turned in" is synonymous with the completion of negotiations?

Ah, who the fuck cares, the album is coming out this year, and all of this drama will be forgotten.  

[ToonGuns]

The big deal is, if it is handed in and they are NEGOTIATING

what does that mean?

What is being negotiated?

If it has something to do with money, we could be in for a huge wait because after all they've spent, Id say they are gonna stand firm on certain monetary issues.


I hope all gets sorted soon and they figure out some cool innovative way to release it.

"Handed in" only applies to homework. It is a dead argument here. The album is either finished or it is not finished.

Why are there negotiations? I, personally, do not know. What is obvious, though, is that times have changed since the last GN'R release. Universal will be looking to make a profit, as will Axl. The internet now is far more promiscous than during the mid-90's. I am sure lots of you here are downloading mf's, and that in itself makes life more difficult for artists and for record companies to make money in this day and age.     

I concur, though, with your last sentence.             

I'm sure a lot of us are downloading MF's yes  

However I myself will be purchasing this fine album, and I'm sure everyother GnR fan on here, whether they have downloaded the leaks or not, will also be rushing to the shops to buy the album.  

I can see them wanting to find someway of avoiding pirating, but lets be honest that is practically impossible. If the CD companies come up with new copy-protect technology, the piraters come up with ways round it. It's like evolution! What I do know though is that very very good music is pirated less than poorer music as people are willing to buy it.

For example if there is a band you really really like, you are more likely to buy the CD. If there is another band you kind of like but can take them or leave them, then given half the chance you may download their stuff. As GnR is a popular band I don't see downloading being too much of a problem.

[D]

Yeah, I am buying the CD as soon as possible.I will DL it off Itunes at Midnight and then go to the store as soon as I wake up and buy the physical copy.

[ToonGuns]

One would have to think Digital Rights has to be the major point considering there were no such thing when Axl signed that contract.

I just hope this album isn't one of those that has multiple different versions - like one CD version for USA/UK, a "tour" version, a Japanese version with a bonus track, an iTunes only version with a different cover and 2 bonus tracks, and a limited edition version with a bonus DVD featuring live footage etc etc etc  

Smashing Pumpkins did that with Zeitgeist.
Velvet Revolver did it a lot too.

NO NEED!

One version please!

[HBK]

The big deal is, if it is handed in and they are NEGOTIATING

what does that mean?

What is being negotiated?

If it has something to do with money, we could be in for a huge wait because after all they've spent, Id say they are gonna stand firm on certain monetary issues.


I hope all gets sorted soon and they figure out some cool innovative way to release it.

"Handed in" only applies to homework. It is a dead argument here. The album is either finished or it is not finished.
    

The focus on whether it has been "handed in" or "turned in" is probably based on Axl's comment regarding the timing of the release:

"It takes approximately eight weeks for an album to hit the shelves once it has been turned in to the record company"

Perhaps the "turned in" is synonymous with the completion of negotiations?

Ah, who the fuck cares, the album is coming out this year, and all of this drama will be forgotten.  

 

I Agreed.

This Fuckin' Drama: BYE BYE...

 

HBK *

[HBK]

One would have to think Digital Rights has to be the major point considering there were no such thing when Axl signed that contract.

I just hope this album isn't one of those that has multiple different versions - like one CD version for USA/UK, a "tour" version, a Japanese version with a bonus track, an iTunes only version with a different cover and 2 bonus tracks, and a limited edition version with a bonus DVD featuring live footage etc etc etc  

Smashing Pumpkins did that with Zeitgeist.
Velvet Revolver did it a lot too.

NO NEED!

One version please!

Whitesnake - Good To Be Bad (2008)

Whitesnake - Good To Be Bad (Full Bonus CD) - 2008 - XXL (Limited Edition In U.K.)

 

HBK *

[D]

Dude

as long as CD comes out

Axl can release 250 versions for all I care


Id buy 3 or 4 different versions

[LunsJail]

Could it also be possible that these negotiations concern more than just one album?  Bach has obviously alluded to the idea of multiple releases and they could be getting all these details squared away up front.

[Neemo]

ok so is the album handed into the label or not? ....i thought that "everybody knows that" or am i missing something  since Beta said that the Album has been handed in before christmas and its been said that "the ball is in the labels court" and the album doesnt havea set release date yet that the average fan knows about, i'm assuming that negotiations are still on going... a couple weeks ago you argued with me till you were blue in the face that the album is handed in cuz beta said so, now you are telling me that i'm making assumptions...make up your mind already

As far as I remember, she never said that.

You seem confused about two things. The album being done and the album being handed in. Two different things.


It's done.

As far as I know, nobody credible has stated it having been handed in to the label.

/jarmo

Nobody credible...well Classic Rock is a pretty well respected magazine, i dont see any reason for them to lie...but whatever you wanna think

The album is finished. It's release is being sorted out.

There is no ceremonial middle ground to this process

The big deal is, if it is handed in and they are NEGOTIATING

what does that mean?

What is being negotiated?

If it has something to do with money, we could be in for a huge wait because after all they've spent, Id say they are gonna stand firm on certain monetary issues.


I hope all gets sorted soon and they figure out some cool innovative way to release it.

"Handed in" only applies to homework. It is a dead argument here. The album is either finished or it is not finished.

Why are there negotiations? I, personally, do not know. What is obvious, though, is that times have changed since the last GN'R release. Universal will be looking to make a profit, as will Axl. The internet now is far more promiscous than during the mid-90's. I am sure lots of you here are downloading mf's, and that in itself makes life more difficult for artists and for record companies to make money in this day and age.     

I concur, though, with your last sentence.             

thank you mysteron...so anyway back to my previous statements, Axl is arguing his side, the label is arguing their side....nobody has the upper hand here....except that Guns N Roses owes Geffen an album....and since the album has been done since Late 2007 it doesnt look to me like Axl is calling the shots with the Label...

[HBK]

Dude

as long as CD comes out

Axl can release 250 versions for all I care


Id buy 3 or 4 different versions

 We will find Different versions Of CHINESE DEMOCRACY

 

HBK *