Oil prices...

[AxlsMainMan]

The often mention how they love not shoveling snow

The USA doesn't get snow

and often mention how beautiful the women are here. 

Canadian women aren't beautiful?

Give me a break.

Why don't you take sometime off from church and actually come see Canada for yourself?

Subsidized Health care generally leads to a lower quality health care.  A private heath care generally may cost more, but you get higher quality. 

Link?

How can it be free and higher quality?  Its impossible.

Because it's not "free?"

A portion of each Canadian citizen's taxes goes to supporting our population's health care costs.

[AxlsMainMan]

But last I checked, no Americans are going to Canada for treatment.

Because they have to pay!

 

The reason Canadian health cards now have the owner's picture on it is because years ago Americans were using phony Canadian health cards to get free treatments and surgeries here in Canada.

Who got stuck with the bill?

The Canadian taxpayers.

[Smoking Guns]

But last I checked, no Americans are going to Canada for treatment.

Because they have to pay!

 

The reason Canadian health cards now have the owner's picture on it is because years ago Americans were using phony Canadian health cards to get free treatments and surgeries here in Canada.

Who got stuck with the bill?

The Canadian taxpayers.

Sounds like America, where we have millions of illegals.

[Smoking Guns]

The often mention how they love not shoveling snow

The USA doesn't get snow

and often mention how beautiful the women are here. 

Canadian women aren't beautiful?

Give me a break.

Why don't you take sometime off from church and actually come see Canada for yourself?

Subsidized Health care generally leads to a lower quality health care.  A private heath care generally may cost more, but you get higher quality. 

Link?

How can it be free and higher quality?  Its impossible.

Because it's not "free?"

A portion of each Canadian citizen's taxes goes to supporting our population's health care costs.

Not in the South East or South West.  hey pal, I can only tell you what your own tell me.  Toronto is a badass clean town though with some nice strip clubs.  That is for sure.  But look at your demographics in comparison to the US.  Its not apples to apples.

[Jim Bob]

The USA doesn't get snow

not here in Las Vegas.   we might get some a lil dusting every 5 years or so, and mount charleston is always covered in snow, but thats outside of the city.


on topic, the answer to the oil problem is simple.  Iraq.   We've done so much to help them and they owe us BIG TIME.  Why not just hook it up with some oil?

[Howard2k]

The USA doesn't get snow

not here in Las Vegas.   we might get some a lil dusting every 5 years or so, and mount charleston is always covered in snow, but thats outside of the city.


on topic, the answer to the oil problem is simple.  Iraq.   We've done so much to help them and they owe us BIG TIME.  Why not just hook it up with some oil?

Yeah, quite clearly, despite the hundreds of thousands of dead and injured civilians and the fact that the standard of living there is considerably lower than it was, they should be very grateful.   

[Howard2k]

 and often mention how beautiful the women are here. 

The US has the highest obesity rates in the developed world. 

[Jim Bob]

The USA doesn't get snow

not here in Las Vegas.   we might get some a lil dusting every 5 years or so, and mount charleston is always covered in snow, but thats outside of the city.


on topic, the answer to the oil problem is simple.  Iraq.   We've done so much to help them and they owe us BIG TIME.  Why not just hook it up with some oil?

Yeah, quite clearly, despite the hundreds of thousands of dead and injured civilians and the fact that the standard of living there is considerably lower than it was, they should be very grateful.   

casualties are a fact of war.   but i believe we've helped the people of Iraq and we are also going to help them rebuild and we are funding it.

[Smoking Guns]

 and often mention how beautiful the women are here. 

The US has the highest obesity rates in the developed world. 

So....  We have slobs.  In a recent study though, child obesity rate has gone down.  Italy and US of A are my favorite for the women.  Brazil is loaded as well.  Canada and the UK.... look elsewhere.

[AxlsMainMan]

but i believe we've helped the people of Iraq

The Iraqis only ever went a few days without water, electricity, and other basic utilities while under Saddam's reign..

[Dr. Blutarsky]

but i believe we've helped the people of Iraq

The Iraqis only ever went a few days without water, electricity, and other basic utilities while under Saddam's reign..

Saddam also killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, including gassing civilians. 

[Smoking Guns]

but i believe we've helped the people of Iraq

The Iraqis only ever went a few days without water, electricity, and other basic utilities while under Saddam's reign..

Saddam also killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, including gassing civilians. 

But they atleast had water everyday....

[SLCPUNK]

We essentially murdered over 650,000 Iraqis, and made refugees out of about a million.

Yea, it's about time they paid us back for all the help we gave them.

Saddam also killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, including gassing civilians. 

Yup, with the gas we supplied him, and when he did it twenty years ago, we didn't do a fucking thing.

Like you give a shit anyway? You're kid killing douchebag Bush killed four times as many as you cheered from the sidelines, sicko.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

We essentially murdered over 650,000 Iraqis, and made refugees out of about a million.

Yea, it's about time they paid us back for all the help we gave them.

Saddam also killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, including gassing civilians. 

Yup, with the gas we supplied him, and when he did it twenty years ago, we didn't do a fucking thing.

Like you give a shit anyway? You're kid killing douchebag Bush killed four times as many as you cheered from the sidelines, sicko.

I'm a sicko?

C'mon punk, lets keep it civil and intelligent if possible.

[Jim Bob]

Iraq can pay for rebuilding itself with its oil reserves.   Give it to us 

[SLCPUNK]

I'm a sicko?

You cheered this war all the way in, and defend it today. You justify the murder of 650,000 by referring to the murder of 1/6 twenty years ago....which is irrational and fucked up.

[AxlsMainMan]

but i believe we've helped the people of Iraq

The Iraqis only ever went a few days without water, electricity, and other basic utilities while under Saddam's reign..

Saddam also killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, including gassing civilians. 

And yet it's been said that a multitude of Iraqis vastly preferred living under Saddam's power when compared to the living conditions they've been faced with since 2003.

But they atleast had water everyday....

It's more than can be said for the current situation.

[AxlsMainMan]

Fear of sapped demand pushes oil below $127

By PABLO GORONDI | Associated Press Writer
6:53 AM EDT, June 2, 2008

Oil dropped below $127 a barrel Monday on worries that soaring prices have eaten away at demand and a U.S. probe into futures trading continued to weigh on the market.

Light, sweet crude for July delivery was down $1.04 to $126.31 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange by midday in Europe.

On Friday, the contract settled at $127.35 a barrel, up 73 cents after dipping below $125 and then rebounding.

In London, July Brent crude futures fell $1.03 to $126.75 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange in London.

Jitters about record high fuel and energy prices -- particularly in the U.S., which has just started its summer driving season -- have helped to pull oil off the $135.09 a barrel trading record hit May 22. Data from the U.S. Energy Department and Federal Highway Administration and several surveys in recent days suggest American consumers are driving less.

The decision by some countries in Asia, like Indonesia, to lower subsidies on oil products, also was seen as having a bearish effect on the market.

Additional selling pressure came with last week's announcement from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission about an investigation into possible price manipulation in oil futures markets. The commission also announced new rules designed to increase transparency of U.S. and international energy futures markets.

"There are more concerns on the high pricing we have seen, that it will have a negative impact on demand, and the fact that the CFTC is expanding its investigation of manipulation in the oil markets," said Victor Shum, an energy analyst with Purvin & Gertz in Singapore.

"The seesaw we've seen in the last few days is an indication that the oil market may have peaked," Shum said.

"Having said that ... the reality is that even though we have crude off the peak of $135 there are still supply-side issues going forward," he said. "The hurricane season is certainly one factor to contend with."

Tropical Storm Arthur formed Saturday afternoon -- one day before the official start of the 2008 Atlantic Hurricane season -- and though it caused the temporary closure of two of Mexico's oil export ports, it wasn't expected to cause any severe disruptions to oil shipments. On Sunday, the storm weakened to a tropical depression.

"Tropical storm Arthur, the first of this season, gave more support to the market," said a research note by JBC Energy in Vienna, Austria.

Investors also had other supply worries on their mind.

On a trip to the Mideast over the weekend, U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said there is "no quick fix" to high oil prices because it is an issue of supply and demand. He was on the trip to deliver a message to officials of Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing nations that soaring oil prices are putting a burden on the global economy.

Global demand remains strong while "production capacity has not seen new development," Paulson said Sunday in Qatar. His trip was designed to urge Mideast producers to allow more outside investment to boost output.

The day before, though, the current president of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries again blamed the weak U.S. dollar, speculation and the subprime crisis for the spiraling price of oil.

Algerian Energy Minister Chakib Khelil said the cartel will make no new decision on production levels until its Sept. 9 meeting in Vienna. He said oil's record prices do not reflect markets conditions, an oft-repeated OPEC position.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 2.07 cents to $3.6460 a gallon while gasoline prices declined 1.07 cents to $3.3375 a gallon. Natural gas futures were down 3.6 cents to $11.667 per 1,000 cubic feet.

http://www.courant.com/business/nationworld/ats-ap_business12jun02,0,7646294.story

[pilferk]

It's all too complicated for me to follow.  Do you know who is taxed more overall...the US or Europeon counrties?

Overall?

I'm pretty sure it's the European Countries.  Or by and large it is, anyway.

And by that, I mean if you add up ALL the taxes paid (sales, duty, straight, income, etc), I believe that, on average, the European pay more taxes per capita than the US does.

Of course, they get "more" from their goverment than we do...like health care, more education subsidy, etc, etc.

[pilferk]

Anyone know when the "official" holiday weekend travel numbers come out?

I've heard they're going to be down quite a bit, more than predicted...and that the speculators are thinking this might be the week the bottom drops out of the oil market.

We'll see....