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Where's Izzy, great post about what should have been said. Taking the high road is the right thing to do in this situation.
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Taking the high road is the right thing to do in this situation.
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Everything from on stage rants/idiotic finger pointing press releases/face saving "firings"/lies on worldwide webcast radio shows.
None of the principal characters are remotely innocent, there's just no getting around it.
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Re: Slash Spills the Beans on Weiland's departure
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Quote from: Falcon on April 20, 2008, 01:24:59 PM
Quote from: Smoking Guns on April 19, 2008, 07:40:00 PM
Taking the high road is the right thing to do in this situation.
Problem is
nobody
invlolved with
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of these bands has
ever
taken the high road in regards to break ups/personel changes, former bandmates etc.
Everything from on stage rants/idiotic finger pointing press releases/face saving "firings"/lies on worldwide webcast radio shows.
None of the principal characters are remotely innocent, there's just no getting around it.
There's only so much shit you can take.....
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Quote from: ShotgunBlues1978 on April 19, 2008, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Wheres Izzy on April 19, 2008, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Hell forget about even having to accept some of the blame how about just keeping quiet? I don't think theres any reason to air absolutely everything out in public. I would have liked it if all parties, and obviously everyone is somewhat responsible, just kept quiet. A simple press release along the lines of "Scott has decided to persure other interests, his now former bandmates wish him luck on all future endeavors, and wish to make it known they plan to continue on with another singer." Then follow that up by being mature enough to say "no comment" when asked about it instead of everyone slinging shit at each other in the press.
Very true, but both Slash and Weiland have big mouths, so you know that was never going to happen.
Like this? I see Scott taking the high road here... Still a douche, but did what was right to do. Leaving the band and not belittling anyone in the way.
Quote from: Shadows7X on April 09, 2008, 12:01:07 AM
Sandy Cohen of The Associated Press conducted a brand new interview yesterday (Monday, April 7) with the reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:
Q: What happened with VELVET REVOLVER?
Weiland: This happened very organically. It wasn't people trying to angle and beg. It just happened the way it sort of happened. I got a call from Dean. I was on tour. He said, "Man, are you sitting down?" I said "Yeah." He said, "I was talking with our agent, and some offers came through." We'd all been starting to talk more often. I had talked to Slash, mentioned it to him, and things were cool for a while. And this last tour, things just disintegrated really badly. I just came to the point where I decided that ... if I'm going to commit the next 10 years of my life to touring ... then I want to do it with people I want to make music with. People who I get inspired by making music with. ...I have to start weeding out stuff. It's kind of like going through your closet going, "Eh, I don't need this anymore. It takes up too much space." Certain things don't feel good, although it may put money in your bank account, but it doesn't feel good at the end of the day. It became one of those situations. This feels good, it feels right. It's always inspiring. It's always that high.
Read the entire interview from The Associated Press
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Scott is going back to a band that used to put him down in the press worse than VR ever did
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Yeah but Slash does have a pattern though
Remember when he totally trashed the producer of "Contraband" sayin how the guy didnt know how to record guitars and shit..........
well Slash, why didnt u say something to him during the recording process? why wait to years later and do it behind his back?
Funniest thing is, the guitars on Contraband are better than the ones on Libertad
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Quote from: D on April 20, 2008, 10:24:46 PM
Yeah but Slash does have a pattern though
Remember when he totally trashed the producer of "Contraband" sayin how the guy didnt know how to record guitars and shit..........
well Slash, why didnt u say something to him during the recording process? why wait to years later and do it behind his back?
Funniest thing is, the guitars on Contraband are better than the ones on Libertad
I agree 100% about Slash waiting to say something, however I do think the guitars sound better on libertad.
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Quote from: D on April 20, 2008, 10:24:46 PM
Yeah but Slash does have a pattern though
Remember when he totally trashed the producer of "Contraband" sayin how the guy didnt know how to record guitars and shit..........
well Slash, why didnt u say something to him during the recording process? why wait to years later and do it behind his back?
Funniest thing is, the guitars on Contraband are better than the ones on Libertad
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Quote from: Genesis on April 21, 2008, 12:15:06 AM
Quote from: D on April 20, 2008, 10:24:46 PM
Yeah but Slash does have a pattern though
Remember when he totally trashed the producer of "Contraband" sayin how the guy didnt know how to record guitars and shit..........
well Slash, why didnt u say something to him during the recording process? why wait to years later and do it behind his back?
Funniest thing is, the guitars on Contraband are better than the ones on Libertad
I agree too. The guitars on Contraband
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Credit to Pencil Queen von Lux at the VR forum....
Apr 18, 2008
Slash Exclusive! The Truth About Weiland
Guitar World spoke exclusively with Slash in New York on April 17, while he was in town to perform a benefit show with Tom Morello, Jerry Cantrell and Perry Farrell.
The guitarist discussed Velvet Revolver?s split with singer Scott Weiland:
?We had gotten to that point where we were resigned to the fact that we weren?t going to be working with Scott anymore, even before we left for the last leg of the tour,? says Slash. ?So when he said all that stuff onstage [at a gig in Scotland Weiland announced to fans that they were witnessing the group?s last tour] we were sort of surprised. Because we had no intention of breaking the band up. It might have been the last show for him, but it wasn?t the last show for Velvet Revolver.
On the fact that Weiland released a statement alleging ?certain individuals? were singing along with him onstage:
?Scott was under the impression that our drum tech was singing during the set, which was why he walked offstage at that show. We convinced him that wasn?t happening, but then the next night he said that Matt [Sorum] was doing it. He was firmly convinced that was happening, which it wasn?t.?
On the future:
?We?ve been writing, and there will be a new album. I?ve been recording some stuff at home, and I know that Duff has gone over to Matt?s to work on things. We also have a bunch of stuff we?ve jammed on at soundchecks. We?ll get together sometime soon and begin laying stuff down.?
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Quote from: Wheres Izzy on April 19, 2008, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Hell forget about even having to accept some of the blame how about just keeping quiet? I don't think theres any reason to air absolutely everything out in public. I would have liked it if all parties, and obviously everyone is somewhat responsible, just kept quiet. A simple press release along the lines of "Scott has decided to persure other interests, his now former bandmates wish him luck on all future endeavors, and wish to make it known they plan to continue on with another singer." Then follow that up by being mature enough to say "no comment" when asked about it instead of everyone slinging shit at each other in the press.
Very true, but both Slash and Weiland have big mouths, so you know that was never going to happen. When things go bad, Slash always goes out of his way to air it out to the press so he can save face and maintain his image. This is why he is claiming that Weiland was fired or kicked out of the band AFTER Weiland had already announced in public that he was quitting. This is why he continually went out of his way to criticize Axl every time someone put a mic in his face, and why he wrote a self-serving biography that again painted Axl in an unfavorable light and was filled with factual errors.
And we all know that Weiland loves to launch into rants on his website and has no reservations about airing out dirty laundry in public. So keeping it behind closed doors was never a realistic possibility given the parties involved
did you read the same book as me? from reading Slash's book you get the feeling that even to this day slash doesn't understand what makes Axl tick, he never mentioned all the personal stuff that axl told him about his childhood, he just told his story which is intert-wined with Axl's story, and even slash says axl probably has different views of certain events that slash wrote about.
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Quote from: Mr Rage on April 22, 2008, 05:48:33 PM
even slash says axl probably has different views of certain events that slash wrote about.
I think a lot of people had different views about pretty much everything he wrote about.
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On the fact that Weiland released a statement alleging ?certain individuals? were singing along with him onstage:
?Scott was under the impression that our drum tech was singing during the set, which was why he walked offstage at that show. We convinced him that wasn?t happening, but then the next night he said that Matt [Sorum] was doing it. He was firmly convinced that was happening, which it wasn?t.?
And so what if someone was singing?
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Quote from: Mr Rage on April 22, 2008, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: ShotgunBlues1978 on April 19, 2008, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Wheres Izzy on April 19, 2008, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Hell forget about even having to accept some of the blame how about just keeping quiet? I don't think theres any reason to air absolutely everything out in public. I would have liked it if all parties, and obviously everyone is somewhat responsible, just kept quiet. A simple press release along the lines of "Scott has decided to persure other interests, his now former bandmates wish him luck on all future endeavors, and wish to make it known they plan to continue on with another singer." Then follow that up by being mature enough to say "no comment" when asked about it instead of everyone slinging shit at each other in the press.
Very true, but both Slash and Weiland have big mouths, so you know that was never going to happen. When things go bad, Slash always goes out of his way to air it out to the press so he can save face and maintain his image. This is why he is claiming that Weiland was fired or kicked out of the band AFTER Weiland had already announced in public that he was quitting. This is why he continually went out of his way to criticize Axl every time someone put a mic in his face, and why he wrote a self-serving biography that again painted Axl in an unfavorable light and was filled with factual errors.
And we all know that Weiland loves to launch into rants on his website and has no reservations about airing out dirty laundry in public. So keeping it behind closed doors was never a realistic possibility given the parties involved
did you read the same book as me? from reading Slash's book you get the feeling that even to this day slash doesn't understand what makes Axl tick, he never mentioned all the personal stuff that axl told him about his childhood, he just told his story which is intert-wined with Axl's story, and even slash says axl probably has different views of certain events that slash wrote about.
Yeah, Slash stated there are two times to each story. He also went out of his way to blame Axl almost exclusively for the demise of the AFD and UYI lineups, well Axl and Doug Goldstein
But for example, he stated that he knew Izzy was trying to get clean and had stopped using, but never seemed to make the connection that him and Duff being shitfaced drunk and/or high as a kite and using booze and drugs freely around Izzy may have had an impact on him deciding to leave the band
He says he doesn't understand Axl, and that Axl has his own side of the story, but throughout the book, with just about every issue and conflict that arises, Slash goes out of his way to place all the blame at somebody else's feet
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On the fact that Weiland released a statement alleging ?certain individuals? were singing along with him onstage:
?Scott was under the impression that our drum tech was singing during the set, which was why he walked offstage at that show. We convinced him that wasn?t happening, but then the next night he said that Matt [Sorum] was doing it. He was firmly convinced that was happening, which it wasn?t.?
And so what if someone was singing?
Slash makes Scott sound a bit paranoid.
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Quote from: ShotgunBlues1978 on April 22, 2008, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: Mr Rage on April 22, 2008, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: ShotgunBlues1978 on April 19, 2008, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Wheres Izzy on April 19, 2008, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Hell forget about even having to accept some of the blame how about just keeping quiet? I don't think theres any reason to air absolutely everything out in public. I would have liked it if all parties, and obviously everyone is somewhat responsible, just kept quiet. A simple press release along the lines of "Scott has decided to persure other interests, his now former bandmates wish him luck on all future endeavors, and wish to make it known they plan to continue on with another singer." Then follow that up by being mature enough to say "no comment" when asked about it instead of everyone slinging shit at each other in the press.
Very true, but both Slash and Weiland have big mouths, so you know that was never going to happen. When things go bad, Slash always goes out of his way to air it out to the press so he can save face and maintain his image. This is why he is claiming that Weiland was fired or kicked out of the band AFTER Weiland had already announced in public that he was quitting. This is why he continually went out of his way to criticize Axl every time someone put a mic in his face, and why he wrote a self-serving biography that again painted Axl in an unfavorable light and was filled with factual errors.
And we all know that Weiland loves to launch into rants on his website and has no reservations about airing out dirty laundry in public. So keeping it behind closed doors was never a realistic possibility given the parties involved
did you read the same book as me? from reading Slash's book you get the feeling that even to this day slash doesn't understand what makes Axl tick, he never mentioned all the personal stuff that axl told him about his childhood, he just told his story which is intert-wined with Axl's story, and even slash says axl probably has different views of certain events that slash wrote about.
Yeah, Slash stated there are two times to each story. He also went out of his way to blame Axl almost exclusively for the demise of the AFD and UYI lineups, well Axl and Doug Goldstein
But for example, he stated that he knew Izzy was trying to get clean and had stopped using, but never seemed to make the connection that him and Duff being shitfaced drunk and/or high as a kite and using booze and drugs freely around Izzy may have had an impact on him deciding to leave the band
He says he doesn't understand Axl, and that Axl has his own side of the story, but throughout the book, with just about every issue and conflict that arises, Slash goes out of his way to place all the blame at somebody else's feet
he does take some blame, but he does feel axl was unresonable in some cases. i'm sure people will say the same about slash, just don't like this constant hatred towards slash by people on this board, he's done nothing wrong!
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Apr 18, 2008
Slash Exclusive! The Truth About Weiland
Guitar World spoke exclusively with Slash in New York on April 17, while he was in town to perform a benefit show with Tom Morello, Jerry Cantrell and Perry Farrell.
The guitarist discussed Velvet Revolver?s split with singer Scott Weiland:
?We had gotten to that point where we were resigned to the fact that we weren?t going to be working with Scott anymore, even before we left for the last leg of the tour,? says Slash. ?So when he said all that stuff onstage [at a gig in Scotland Weiland announced to fans that they were witnessing the group?s last tour] we were sort of surprised. Because we had no intention of breaking the band up. It might have been the last show for him, but it wasn?t the last show for Velvet Revolver.
On the fact that Weiland released a statement alleging ?certain individuals? were singing along with him onstage:
?Scott was under the impression that our drum tech was singing during the set, which was why he walked offstage at that show. We convinced him that wasn?t happening, but then the next night he said that Matt [Sorum] was doing it. He was firmly convinced that was happening, which it wasn?t.?
On the future:
?We?ve been writing, and there will be a new album. I?ve been recording some stuff at home, and I know that Duff has gone over to Matt?s to work on things. We also have a bunch of stuff we?ve jammed on at soundchecks. We?ll get together sometime soon and begin laying stuff down.?
Pictured above, Slash performing with Jerry Cantrell at the Road Recovery Benefit in New York City on April 17, 2008.
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