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Re: Slash Spills the Beans on Weiland's departure
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Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
please keep in mind that Matt "saved" the band in 1990, proven in a couple of interviews by Slash, Axl(!) & Co.
And that gives him the right to be a dick?
He "saved" the band just like Gilby did, or Frank. Or anybody else who stepped in.
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So what happened with Feel the Burn. He said something about Fernando, then Fernando said he had been living with Axl for 14 years then Feel the Burn left?
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Re: Slash Spills the Beans on Weiland's departure
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on April 19, 2008, 12:07:36 PM
So what happened with Feel the Burn. He said something about Fernando, then Fernando said he had been living with Axl for 14 years then Feel the Burn left?
I think he made himself look like a total fool and tried to save face by deleting his account.
Let's see what his third user name will be.
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Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
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Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
You're too modest.....
It'd be at least four digits....
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Especially when the other side has been involved in another split in the past.
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Re: Slash Spills the Beans on Weiland's departure
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Quote from: jarmo on April 19, 2008, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
You're too modest.....
It'd be at least four digits....
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Especially when the other side has been involved in another split in the past.
/jarmo
Yeah that was a typo, guess I shouldve said 2500........
I just find it strange, that this split seems eerily similiar to the last band Slash was in that split. I think the problem with the last split was just the fact Axl isn't a media whore and didnt talk about it constantly. The fact Slash is a media whore and talked talked talked got his side of the story out there more therefore people usually believe the first thing they hear so u get this perception that isnt entirely true.
Im sure all parties had some fault but I am really beginning to see that Slash and Co had a hell of a lot more fault than people realize.
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Scott had a bad split from his band too where the other members "teamed up against him."
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Quote from: jarmo on April 19, 2008, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
please keep in mind that Matt "saved" the band in 1990, proven in a couple of interviews by Slash, Axl(!) & Co.
And that gives him the right to be a dick?
He "saved" the band just like Gilby did, or Frank. Or anybody else who stepped in.
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totally different thing with studio/live, you know that.
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Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:09:36 PM
I just find it strange, that this split seems eerily similiar to the last band Slash was in that split. I think the problem with the last split was just the fact Axl isn't a media whore and didnt talk about it constantly. The fact Slash is a media whore and talked talked talked got his side of the story out there more therefore people usually believe the first thing they hear so u get this perception that isnt entirely true.
That's my biggest problem with him sometimes. He's constantly doing interviews and giving "insider" details on everything. Keep some things to yourself. And why is he doing interviews right now? What the fuck is he promoting?
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Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 01:29:03 PM
totally different thing with studio/live, you know that.
Essentially they all did the same thing, allowed the band to move forward.
It doesn't mean Matt Sorum is the sole reason GN'R has existed beyond 1990.
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Of course Scott had fault in STP breaking up just like he has fault in VR breaking up
Its like people only want to blame one or the other without realizing that each side is at fault.
To Scott he probably feels it is Slash and Co's fault, and vice versa.
Matt Sorum saved GNR, if u dont believe me, check out all the writing credits on UYI's. that album would've been a bunch of My Worlds had he not signed on
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Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 01:29:03 PM
totally different thing with studio/live, you know that.
Essentially they all did the same thing, allowed the band to move forward.
It doesn't mean Matt Sorum is the sole reason GN'R has existed beyond 1990.
/jarmo
you can spin it like you want, Matt helped much more in GN'R history than any other replacement. i'm not a fan of Matt but he deserves a lot credits for the illusion period. and some here try to take away kinda everything the old band members did.
whats next? "Frank has saved the band" or "Axl wrote AFD"?
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Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
whats next? "Frank has saved the band"
he may very well have. brain had new committments with his daughter mid-tour.
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Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:54:25 PM
Of course Scott had fault in STP breaking up just like he has fault in VR breaking up
Its like people only want to blame one or the other without realizing that each side is at fault.
To Scott he probably feels it is Slash and Co's fault, and vice versa.
That's human nature, though, right? Do you think either side is going to say, "Yeah, this didn't work out because I was acting like a shithead."? Of course, people want to place all the blame on the other party. There's always two sides to every story, though.
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Quote from: LunsJail on April 19, 2008, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:09:36 PM
I just find it strange, that this split seems eerily similiar to the last band Slash was in that split. I think the problem with the last split was just the fact Axl isn't a media whore and didnt talk about it constantly. The fact Slash is a media whore and talked talked talked got his side of the story out there more therefore people usually believe the first thing they hear so u get this perception that isnt entirely true.
That's my biggest problem with him sometimes. He's constantly doing interviews and giving "insider" details on everything. Keep some things to yourself. And why is he doing interviews right now? What the fuck is he promoting?
Himself.
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Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
you can spin it like you want, Matt helped much more in GN'R history than any other replacement.
How can you say that?
Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
i'm not a fan of Matt but he deserves a lot credits for the illusion period.
He came in and played drums.
That's what he was hired to do.
Sure, I enjoy listening to the albums he plays on, but that doesn't mean I'll have to think like the band would've ended if they had hired somebody else.
Quote from: Limulus on April 19, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
and some here try to take away kinda everything the old band members did.
whats next? "Frank has saved the band" or "Axl wrote AFD"?
No, not the same at all.
You're trying to make him seem like some God sent gift to GN'R.
He's one lucky drummer with an ego!
Do you think The Cult fans see him as the guy who saved The Cult? Considering they've managed to keep going without him....
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Quote from: Fernando on April 19, 2008, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: LunsJail on April 19, 2008, 01:36:00 PM
What the fuck is he promoting?
Himself.
Slash is trying to convince everyone that they fired Weiland before he decided to move on, its sad. The more I hear from Slash the less respect I have for him as a person. He's a great guitar player and should just stick to that and keep his mouth shut.
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The problem is, most fans tend to not differentiate between Slash, the person (Saul Hudson) and Slash, the guitar hero. And then they get disappointed etc etc.
Slash the person ain?t flawless. Some may even add that he?s a liar. So be it.
Slash the rockstar is the musician you all love and see on stage. It?s a character he built so he could rise to fame. Would he be a plain guy (you know what I mean) he wouldn?t be as iconic and legendary as he is to this day. And with this I?m not taking away his value as a guitar player, which is enormous.
The thing is, you can?t expect Slash, the guitar hero to be as exceptional as a person as he is when playing guitar. They are two different individuals. That?s why you all get all revolted and dissapointed with his sayings...
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Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Hell forget about even having to accept some of the blame how about just keeping quiet? I don't think theres any reason to air absolutely everything out in public. I would have liked it if all parties, and obviously everyone is somewhat responsible, just kept quiet. A simple press release along the lines of "Scott has decided to persure other interests, his now former bandmates wish him luck on all future endeavors, and wish to make it known they plan to continue on with another singer." Then follow that up by being mature enough to say "no comment" when asked about it instead of everyone slinging shit at each other in the press.
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Quote from: Wheres Izzy on April 19, 2008, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: D on April 19, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Thats no reason to delete your account
shit, If I deleted my account everytime I said or did something stupid, Id be on Username 25 or so.
I would've liked if Slash would've took a little blame on himself and the rest of the band instead of putting it all on Scott.
No matter what kind of relationship u are talking about, when it goes bad, both parties always have the blame to share. Its rarely ever only one side or one person in the relationship.
Hell forget about even having to accept some of the blame how about just keeping quiet? I don't think theres any reason to air absolutely everything out in public. I would have liked it if all parties, and obviously everyone is somewhat responsible, just kept quiet. A simple press release along the lines of "Scott has decided to persure other interests, his now former bandmates wish him luck on all future endeavors, and wish to make it known they plan to continue on with another singer." Then follow that up by being mature enough to say "no comment" when asked about it instead of everyone slinging shit at each other in the press.
Very true, but both Slash and Weiland have big mouths, so you know that was never going to happen. When things go bad, Slash always goes out of his way to air it out to the press so he can save face and maintain his image. This is why he is claiming that Weiland was fired or kicked out of the band AFTER Weiland had already announced in public that he was quitting. This is why he continually went out of his way to criticize Axl every time someone put a mic in his face, and why he wrote a self-serving biography that again painted Axl in an unfavorable light and was filled with factual errors.
And we all know that Weiland loves to launch into rants on his website and has no reservations about airing out dirty laundry in public. So keeping it behind closed doors was never a realistic possibility given the parties involved
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