Scott Weiland speaks about the end of VR

[Ali]

that and Big Empty alone win Scott major pts for whatever he decides to do.

The melodies and vocals to those songs are good, but so is the music.  For that, the De Leos deserve big props as well.

Yeah, but we we're talking about Scotts abilities. Not those chaps.

Just saying the points given for those songs as a whole cannot be solely given to Weiland.

Ali

[greendog]

that and Big Empty alone win Scott major pts for whatever he decides to do.

The melodies and vocals to those songs are good, but so is the music.  For that, the De Leos deserve big props as well.

Yeah, but we we're talking about Scotts abilities. Not those chaps.

Just saying the points given for those songs as a whole cannot be solely given to Weiland.

Ali

Point taken

[D]

People who are fickle is why u have such shitty trends in music.

Its like when I was in high school, me and a friend of mine use to let each other borrow different Bon Jovi cassettes. we'd talk about them and listen to them and we both loved them.


6 months later, he is wearing flannel and is a huge "Nirvana, Pearl Jam" fan and somehow now Bon Jovi are the shittiest band on the planet.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM


I just have always hated fickle fuckin front runner, bandwagon fans.

If u love something, u love it. u shouldnt hop off to the next new thing.

same here.

If u thought Scott was awesome before, u shouldnt think he is shit now.


Which was like my previous Dave Navarro comment if he ever joined GNR.

I hate pretty much everything about him, so if he joined GNR, I wouldnt proclaim him to be the 2nd coming of Jesus. Id still hate him.

[SpiritDave]

If u thought Scott was awesome before, u shouldnt think he is shit now.

Absolutely ... I think Scott's an idiot ... but ... damn, I love the work he's done in VR ...

[Smoking Guns]

If u thought Scott was awesome before, u shouldnt think he is shit now.

Absolutely ... I think Scott's an idiot ... but ... damn, I love the work he's done in VR ...

Well, fans from outside didn't know all the drama with STP so maybe he seemed cooler than he is.  On stage I like weiland, but off stage he can be a big ass.

[Wheres Izzy]

If u thought Scott was awesome before, u shouldnt think he is shit now.

Absolutely ... I think Scott's an idiot ... but ... damn, I love the work he's done in VR ...

Yeah thats the point I was trying to make in an earlier post. I don't know if idiot is the right word though. Egotistical and pretentious is better. But I am a fan of his work sans the solo album. That sucked bad.

[Fernando]

Weiland is a fraud. Slash said it himself.   

Slash said it, then it must be law.

I wonder if anyone in VR had anything to do with Scott not feeling inspi(red) to make music.  I think that we fail to realize that there are other people in play that could of helped one feel like that.   There is a bigger picture here...

[Ali]

Weiland is a fraud. Slash said it himself.   

Slash said it, then it must be law.

I wonder if anyone in VR had anything to do with Scott not feeling inspi(red) to make music.  I think that we fail to realize that there are other people in play that could of helped one feel like that.   There is a bigger picture here...

Well, I don't think VR contains Slash's most inspired playing, save for a few moments like "Set Me Free", "Slither", "Let It Roll" and "Messages".  "Get Out The Door" is awesome, but that's Kushner's riff.  I think having kick ass riffs to write lyrics and melodies to may make a singer want to elevate their game, so to speak.

If that's what you mean.

Ali

[misterID]

I wonder if anyone in VR had anything to do with Scott not feeling inspi(red) to make music.  I think that we fail to realize that there are other people in play that could of helped one feel like that.   There is a bigger picture here...

Is it that hard to believe that Scott was the problem in this situation?

[MeanBone]

yes 

[misterID]

Wait... How silly of me... I forgot how responsible he's been before VR (during and after), especially with his old band. 

[Fingers]

Scott is an amazing talent and this was a great band, I don't think they will find anyone like him, but I also agree Scott seems to have a "rock star" attitude (ask Hoobastank)-that really seems to rub people the wrong way-I'm curious to see the next STP release, but it also seems like Scott can wear out a welcome quick-and I totally understand Slash about leaving a crowd waiting around for 2 hours for a show-they did it in Detroit in Jan.

[chineseblues]

Wait... How silly of me... I forgot how responsible he's been before VR (during and after), especially with his old band. 

You could say the same thing about slash and the rest of the guys. They are hardly reliable, considering slash goes to rehab once every few years or so.

[Chris Axl]

scott can go fuck himself. So glad Slash and Duff got rid of him!

[gcluskey]

There needs to be a solid chemistry in a band and although the guys from VR thought they had that for a while it didn't take long until they figured out it wasn't right. Guns n Roses had a great chemistry in the beginning, they were very rock n roll. A bunch of misfits that could make great music together, they were all on an equal par. They inspired each other to make music, Axl knew how to inspire Slash musically. The Sweet Child intro was Slash just fuckin around, it was Axl that wanted him to use it. VR isn't the same type of animal, all these guys are professional musicians with huge egos. Scott probably feels more at home with STP. They've a longer history together and are old friends. VR need someone really special. Sebastian Bach would be a fantastic vocalist but I'm not so keen on his lyric writing. Axl is a genius, they'll never get better. They need someone like Freddie Mercury or Bon Scott, unfortunately they're dead!! If I was Slash I'd be ringing Axl up now

[kobys]

I can see why Slash and the guys got rid of Scott. Scott is just way too difficult to deal with. On the other hand, Scott is bi-polar and that's beyond his control. He can't really help his difficult personality. To me this is kind of a no win situation. From the way I see it, it's only a matter of time until Scott starts clashing with the rest of STP.

[Falcon]

I can see why Slash and the guys got rid of Scott...

Uh, no matter how they (VR camp) spin it - he got rid of them...

[Chris Axl]

I can see why Slash and the guys got rid of Scott...

Uh, no matter how they (VR camp) spin it - he got rid of them...

Slash, Duff and Matt had planned on getting rid of him for a long time.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

I can see why Slash and the guys got rid of Scott...

Uh, no matter how they (VR camp) spin it - he got rid of them...

Slash, Duff and Matt had planned on getting rid of him for a long time.

Slash knows how to tell a good lie story.

[fuckin crazy]

Slash knows how to tell a good lie story.

Classic argumentum ad hominem.


While he may have a propensity for fudging the truth, it has nothing to with Weiland's firing. The facts tend to support his story, ie, auditioning new singers, strife in the band, and the fact that some of his statements have been corroborated by other members of the band.