Robin leaving? Just touring?

[BKinNYC]

Isn't it strange that those few who repeatedly state 'He's a goner' altho there's no confirmation are basically the ones who don't care for robin. Who don't care for any good news from the band. It's hard to believe they actually worry about it.

of course.. and its the same people who only seem to care about nothing but "the R word".  but thankfully most of that crowd are on other boards. 

I used to love Robin being in GNR ..... and I love "any good news" that I read or hear about GNR ..... and I am NOT a supporter of "the R word".......... but since he pulled this shit, I do hope it's true that Robin is "a goner".


As for the trolls n' spammers (and youze know who youze are), I find it laughable that the same peoples whining about the NIN dates not being on a GNR fan site's main page are also the same ones who were whining about the VR dates not being listed on the HTGTH site page.  But these same trolls n' spammers never acknowledge that both of these other bands' tour dates ARE listed on this forum in their proper threads!!!.

And the "JARMO!!!  ADMIT IT!!!  YOU'RE REALLY GNR's MANAGER!!! or YOU'RE REALLY AXL'S THIRD COUSIN TWICE REMOVED!!!" bit and adding the "BUT I'M NOT CRITICIZING HOW GNR OR HTGTH ARE RUN" bit (after youze criticize how GNR or HTGTH are run) is really getting old. 

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?

[Naltav]

 
[/quote]

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?
[/quote]

Agreed!!

[TomFriend]

I think it would be cool to have all those opinions expressed freely here.  I love this board, and that is my only complaint about it.  It's the best place for GNR news and a great place for discussion.  I just think the rules make it hard to get a true cross-section of the fan base.  Jarmo, that's not meant to be a slam at you or the board, only my opinion of one rule.

actually what i LOVE about this place is I dont' have to listen to that portion of the fanbase.     I am so over those old tired discussions.  I'm interested in the here and now.

Robin ain't here right now. 

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?

[/b]

Disagreed. There's already plenty of forums for NIN discussion elsewhere on the web. The same can't be said for Hookers And Blow, and Frank and Bumble's projects.

[Jim Bob]

actually what i LOVE about this place is I dont' have to listen to that portion of the fanbase.     I am so over those old tired discussions.  I'm interested in the here and now.

Robin ain't here right now. 

he hasn't left the band, he's doing what the rest of the band members are doing.. something else while there is downtime.   you can't say he is out unless he either announces it or the band announces it, or he doesn't show up on stage next time GnR perform.    Until then, he is the lead guitarist for Guns N' Roses.

[gunns1]

I think it would be cool to have all those opinions expressed freely here.  I love this board, and that is my only complaint about it.  It's the best place for GNR news and a great place for discussion.  I just think the rules make it hard to get a true cross-section of the fan base.  Jarmo, that's not meant to be a slam at you or the board, only my opinion of one rule.

actually what i LOVE about this place is I dont' have to listen to that portion of the fanbase.     I am so over those old tired discussions.  I'm interested in the here and now.

Robin ain't here right now. 

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?

[/b]

Disagreed. There's already plenty of forums for NIN discussion elsewhere on the web. The same can't be said for Hookers And Blow, and Frank and Bumble's projects.

Actually theirs a whole bumblefoot forum on bumblefoot.com to talk about bumble ...

and Mabye some people on here might want to track Robins activites on a gnr board, without having to sign up on numerous nin board...

Im not taking sides, but I dont see how just because nine inch nails is a bigger side project then what any of the current gnr members are doing,
 its seen as less "important" to talk about ... unless you want to join a nin message board...when people only want to track 1 person, not the whole nin activities...

just my 5 cents

[Naltav]

I think it would be cool to have all those opinions expressed freely here.  I love this board, and that is my only complaint about it.  It's the best place for GNR news and a great place for discussion.  I just think the rules make it hard to get a true cross-section of the fan base.  Jarmo, that's not meant to be a slam at you or the board, only my opinion of one rule.

actually what i LOVE about this place is I dont' have to listen to that portion of the fanbase.     I am so over those old tired discussions.  I'm interested in the here and now.

Robin ain't here right now. 

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?

[/b]

Disagreed. There's already plenty of forums for NIN discussion elsewhere on the web. The same can't be said for Hookers And Blow, and Frank and Bumble's projects.

C'mon! Yeah, that's most likely the reason....        (and all the other appropriate smilies...)

[*Timothy*]

I think it would be cool to have all those opinions expressed freely here.  I love this board, and that is my only complaint about it.  It's the best place for GNR news and a great place for discussion.  I just think the rules make it hard to get a true cross-section of the fan base.  Jarmo, that's not meant to be a slam at you or the board, only my opinion of one rule.

actually what i LOVE about this place is I dont' have to listen to that portion of the fanbase.     I am so over those old tired discussions.  I'm interested in the here and now.

Robin ain't here right now. 

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?

[/b]

Disagreed. There's already plenty of forums for NIN discussion elsewhere on the web. The same can't be said for Hookers And Blow, and Frank and Bumble's projects.

Actually theirs a whole bumblefoot forum on bumblefoot.com to talk about bumble ...

and Mabye some people on here might want to track Robins activites on a gnr board, without having to sign up on numerous nin board...

Im not taking sides, but I dont see how just because nine inch nails is a bigger side project then what any of the current gnr members are doing,
 its seen as less "important" to talk about ... unless you want to join a nin message board...when people only want to track 1 person, not the whole nin activities...

just my 5 cents

word.


Regaless of how big the side project is it should still be listed , just like the other guys side stuff is.

[Wooody]

I think it would be cool to have all those opinions expressed freely here.  I love this board, and that is my only complaint about it.  It's the best place for GNR news and a great place for discussion.  I just think the rules make it hard to get a true cross-section of the fan base.  Jarmo, that's not meant to be a slam at you or the board, only my opinion of one rule.

actually what i LOVE about this place is I dont' have to listen to that portion of the fanbase.     I am so over those old tired discussions.  I'm interested in the here and now.

Robin ain't here right now. 

Not to be nitpicky here, but sorry, you're wrong about this.  Look at the GUNS N' ROSES message board.  Look at the threads.  I can plainly see threads on the bands that Frank, Dizzy and Bumble are playing with.   They are all current members, correct?  So, Robin is a current member.  He's doing a side-project with NIN.  Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   Correct?

[/b]

Disagreed. There's already plenty of forums for NIN discussion elsewhere on the web. The same can't be said for Hookers And Blow, and Frank and Bumble's projects.

Actually theirs a whole bumblefoot forum on bumblefoot.com to talk about bumble ...

and Mabye some people on here might want to track Robins activites on a gnr board, without having to sign up on numerous nin board...

Im not taking sides, but I dont see how just because nine inch nails is a bigger side project then what any of the current gnr members are doing,
 its seen as less "important" to talk about ... unless you want to join a nin message board...when people only want to track 1 person, not the whole nin activities...

just my 5 cents

word.


Regaless of how big the side project is it should still be listed , just like the other guys side stuff is.

OK, now that this matter has been exposed with plenty of arguments by a fair amount of people (against little people using the word youze); I think we should adress this "situation".

The "situation" being, that Robin's involvement with the band is as ambiguous as ever !
 

[jazjme]

I wasn't gong to bother with this thread, but I think a lot of people are really missing the point, here. First and foremost I don't think Robin has left GNR, YES he is touring with NIN and I see a lot of arguments how Richard, Frank, Ron, Dizzy doing other things,.. and are demanding why than what Robin is don with NIN isn't posted on front page. Are allot of you completely dimwits.?   All the side projects that a lot of these guys do are with local fun bands, and listed on fliers when they do shows says "MEMBERS OF GUNS N ROSES", now how damn naive would you have to be to think that NIN fliers will say oh and BTW, ROBIN member of GNR? I think some of you people arguing are ridiculous, but hey if it makes you happy, BUT I think the answer is clear... Hes doing something like the others, and NIN is a major band, so they have web site  to talk about there going on. and no where ever did anyone in GNR camp say ROBIN is gone,I'm glad I didn't bother Richard or Frank to ask about it, cause regardless what they would say , many would still be here bitching!

[gunns1]

so we could have a thread about robin discussing whether he is going to be in guns n roses in the future or not,
Basically, all the viewpoints are based on speculation and no facts whatsoever

but we can't address/talk about his involvment in nine inch nails which is fact?
I suppose we can always sign up to a nin message board, but why should we when little do we know, he is still an active member in gnr
so why cant we talk about his contributions to nine inch nails songs and his guitar playing in that ?
I guess we could always fill up another 100+ pages on nothing but speculations and false replys, but I think this would be more constructive...

[GypsySoul]

so we could have a thread about robin discussing whether he is going to be in guns n roses in the future or not,
Basically, all the viewpoints are based on speculation and no facts whatsoever

but we can't address/talk about his involvment in nine inch nails which is fact?
I suppose we can always sign up to a nin message board, but why should we when little do we know, he is still an active member in gnr
so why cant we talk about his contributions to nine inch nails songs and his guitar playing in that ?
I guess we could always fill up another 100+ pages on nothing but speculations and false replys, but I think this would be more constructive...

The great thing about HTGTH is that you CAN address/talk about it all you want right here: 

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=46530.0

As for the trolls n' spammers (and youze know who youze are), I find it laughable that the same peoples whining about the NIN dates not being on a GNR fan site's main page are also the same ones who were whining about the VR dates not being listed on the HTGTH site page.  But these same trolls n' spammers never acknowledge that both of these other bands' tour dates ARE listed on this forum in their proper threads!!!.

[Death Cube K]

I wasn't gong to bother with this thread, but I think a lot of people are really missing the point, here. First and foremost I don't think Robin has left GNR, YES he is touring with NIN and I see a lot of arguments how Richard, Frank, Ron, Dizzy doing other things,.. and are demanding why than what Robin is don with NIN isn't posted on front page. Are allot of you completely dimwits.?   All the side projects that a lot of these guys do are with local fun bands, and listed on fliers when they do shows says "MEMBERS OF GUNS N ROSES", now how damn naive would you have to be to think that NIN fliers will say oh and BTW, ROBIN member of GNR? I think some of you people arguing are ridiculous, but hey if it makes you happy, BUT I think the answer is clear... Hes doing something like the others, and NIN is a major band, so they have web site  to talk about there going on. and no where ever did anyone in GNR camp say ROBIN is gone,I'm glad I didn't bother Richard or Frank to ask about it, cause regardless what they would say , many would still be here bitching!

Great, I'm already waiting for the GNR 2010 tour and the release of the album!

[jarmo]

Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   

That's not very likely to happen. 

I know you can't be serious in your wish to turn the GN'R section into a NIN section....




/jarmo

[Fingers]

I still think the thing is if there are 3 albums done, Robin is probably done recording with GNR for a while ( I know Baz had the comment about 2012 for one of the album releases)-Robin will be paid for work done on them, it's possible he looked at NIN as a more active band as far as touring goes-it's basically which band to tour with, which to make more money touring with-if there are 3 albums in the can, he might consider his work done

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   

That's not very likely to happen. 

I know you can't be serious in your wish to turn the GN'R section into a NIN section....




/jarmo

Maybe it makes sense to create a new section to discuss current member side projects.

[TomFriend]

I still think the thing is if there are 3 albums done, Robin is probably done recording with GNR for a while ( I know Baz had the comment about 2012 for one of the album releases)-Robin will be paid for work done on them, it's possible he looked at NIN as a more active band as far as touring goes-it's basically which band to tour with, which to make more money touring with-if there are 3 albums in the can, he might consider his work done

The thing is, at this point Robin seems to have no choice about his work being done with GNR. There's no tour dates, no release date, no hint of any activity whatsoever, no news from GNR management, no news from the label, so we're left to conclude that these negotiations that have supposedly been going on for several months have progressed bugger all thus far.

The question has never been why Robin went to NIN, because the answers are obvious - he's a guitarist, and he wants to be out there playing rather than sat at home twiddling knobs and waiting for some bizarre grand scheme to fall into place. All that matters is whether he will be available to GNR when/if anything ever happens.

[ppbebe]

Are allot of you completely dimwits.?   All the side projects that a lot of these guys do are with local fun bands, and listed on fliers when they do shows says "MEMBERS OF GUNS N ROSES", now how damn naive would you have to be to think that NIN fliers will say oh and BTW, ROBIN member of GNR? I think some of you people arguing are ridiculous, but hey if it makes you happy, BUT I think the answer is clear... Hes doing something like the others, and NIN is a major band, so they have web site  to talk about there going on. and no where ever did anyone in GNR camp say ROBIN is gone,

exactly. and that'd be enough.
Or NIN fans would be very enthused to see such a flyer or a clarification. regardless, he'll give his all while he's performing for them.

[BKinNYC]

Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   

That's not very likely to happen. 

I know you can't be serious in your wish to turn the GN'R section into a NIN section....




/jarmo

I'm playing devil's advocate here, Jarmo.  Personally, I don't care about reading what's happening with Robin's NIN gigs.  But you know what?  I don't care that Frank is playing with some band, or that Bumblefoot is playing a charity concert, or that Tommy wants to get back with the Replacements, or Hookers n' Blow is playing in a bar in Podunk, USA either.  None of that has anything to do with Gn'R, except for the fact that they're all IN Gn'R.

I'm just asking what the difference is.  I noticed that people posted pics of Hookers n' Blow shows on the MAIN Gn'R board.  So I'm expecting someone to do the same with NIN shows when they start touring.

You can't pick and choose what members of Gn'R you want to keep tabs on.  You have to be fair to all.

[cineater]

Therefore, when the NIN begins this summer, I hope to see consistent updates on the NIN shows.  Robin is a CURRENT member of Gn'R, and we should be updated (on the main Gn'R message board) on his whereabouts at all times, just like the other CURRENT band members.   

That's not very likely to happen. 

I know you can't be serious in your wish to turn the GN'R section into a NIN section....




/jarmo

I'm playing devil's advocate here, Jarmo.  Personally, I don't care about reading what's happening with Robin's NIN gigs.  But you know what?  I don't care that Frank is playing with some band, or that Bumblefoot is playing a charity concert, or that Tommy wants to get back with the Replacements, or Hookers n' Blow is playing in a bar in Podunk, USA either.  None of that has anything to do with Gn'R, except for the fact that they're all IN Gn'R.

I'm just asking what the difference is.  I noticed that people posted pics of Hookers n' Blow shows on the MAIN Gn'R board.  So I'm expecting someone to do the same with NIN shows when they start touring.

You can't pick and choose what members of Gn'R you want to keep tabs on.  You have to be fair to all.

You have a good point and you're right it would be fair.  However NIN are an arena type act, you can find their info all over the net so lets not flood this board with it.  How about if something is said about GNR with the NIN stuff it would be fair to post it here?  General NIN stuff could be left to their boards.  What do you think?

[COMAMOTIVE]

I'm playing devil's advocate here, Jarmo.  Personally, I don't care about reading what's happening with Robin's NIN gigs.  But you know what?  I don't care that Frank is playing with some band, or that Bumblefoot is playing a charity concert, or that Tommy wants to get back with the Replacements, or Hookers n' Blow is playing in a bar in Podunk, USA either.  None of that has anything to do with Gn'R, except for the fact that they're all IN Gn'R.

I'm just asking what the difference is.  I noticed that people posted pics of Hookers n' Blow shows on the MAIN Gn'R board.  So I'm expecting someone to do the same with NIN shows when they start touring.

You can't pick and choose what members of Gn'R you want to keep tabs on.  You have to be fair to all.

This is an excellent post, and I agree with you 100% (hopefully others do , as well)

Hearing some things on Finck playing with NIN is a bit more interesting than hearing about Frank Ferrer and the legendary " Pisser"