Slash speaks on split/search for new singer

[Feel_The_Burn]

I think this is wonderful. I loved the last two records for the most part but Im not a huge Weiland fan. Now we get to hear what these guys can do with someone else.
The future of this band depends a lot on how this next record turns out.

Yes, this is when they have nobody to blame but themselves.  This is when we hear real dirty gritty rock in roll.  This is when they bust out the Izzy CD (the one they wrote before Weiland joined) and let him be a co-writer.  This is when we finally get what we want from VR!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope....

Oh my god , CD and A "bad ass" rock n roll disc from VR..... The world could implode i tell ya 

[Smoking Guns]

Its put up or shut up time for Slash, Duff and Matt.. Dave, I respect you regardless cause you are a great team player.  But now is the time we get what we were promised, as Scott Weiland says, "Mother Fucking Rock N Roll".  Big Machine wasn't that, bring on the good shit.  I am so ready!!

[fuckin crazy]

This is when we hear real dirty gritty rock in roll.  This is when they bust out the Izzy CD (the one they wrote before Weiland joined) and let him be a co-writer.  This is when we finally get what we want from VR!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope....

Doubtful, but fingers crossed.

[Smoking Guns]

This is when we hear real dirty gritty rock in roll.  This is when they bust out the Izzy CD (the one they wrote before Weiland joined) and let him be a co-writer.  This is when we finally get what we want from VR!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope....

Doubtful, but fingers crossed.

If they aren't fired up now, they never will be.  They sacrificed so much musically for Weiland.  Well no more.  No more excuses. Get the dude with some pipes.  Let izzy write his lyrics if he can't.  VR needs a singer and frontman, not a singer/songwriter.  If he can write lyrics, great, but that SHOULD NOT be focus!!

[*Timothy*]

This is when we hear real dirty gritty rock in roll.  This is when they bust out the Izzy CD (the one they wrote before Weiland joined) and let him be a co-writer.  This is when we finally get what we want from VR!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope....

Doubtful, but fingers crossed.

If they aren't fired up now, they never will be.  They sacrificed so much musically for Weiland.  Well no more.  No more excuses. Get the dude with some pipes.  Let izzy write his lyrics if he can't.  VR needs a singer and frontman, not a singer/songwriter.  If he can write lyrics, great, but that SHOULD NOT be focus!!

when did you become clive Davis?

maybe they should just get christian aguliera to be the new singier then.

[Smoking Guns]

This is when we hear real dirty gritty rock in roll.  This is when they bust out the Izzy CD (the one they wrote before Weiland joined) and let him be a co-writer.  This is when we finally get what we want from VR!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope....

Doubtful, but fingers crossed.

If they aren't fired up now, they never will be.  They sacrificed so much musically for Weiland.  Well no more.  No more excuses. Get the dude with some pipes.  Let izzy write his lyrics if he can't.  VR needs a singer and frontman, not a singer/songwriter.  If he can write lyrics, great, but that SHOULD NOT be focus!!

when did you become clive Davis?

maybe they should just get christian aguliera to be the new singier then.

Well, he has a point.  Get the best "singer" now because Duff and Izzy can write great lyrics.  So if you have those 2, plus what you can add, awesome.  Brian Johnson saying Malcom and Angus lyrics for almost 30 years now.  He hasn't written lyrics since 1980.

[cyllan]

Some people seem to be making a rather large assumption that Izzy will still want to work,or at least write lyrics for, the band.  I have no evidence,of course, that he won't but, equally, there's the possibility that he's moved on and might consider this a retrograde step.  After all, wasn't his material rejected by them before?

And even supposing he and Duff do collaborate on lyrics, I think an album approaching anything near the standard of AFD is out of the question, given the evidence of their solo projects after GNR.  (I know that no-one has openly voiced this wish but I do get a sense of an unspoken anticipation that great things will come out of the collaboration.)

I really don't mean to be the wet blanket in all this but I just think that those who're expecting this to be some kind of renaissance for VR are likely to end up being disappointed.

[MeanBone]

Some people seem to be making a rather large assumption that Izzy will still want to work,or at least write lyrics for, the band.  I have no evidence,of course, that he won't but, equally, there's the possibility that he's moved on and might consider this a retrograde step.  After all, wasn't his material rejected by them before?

And even supposing he and Duff do collaborate on lyrics, I think an album approaching anything near the standard of AFD is out of the question, given the evidence of their solo projects after GNR.  (I know that no-one has openly voiced this wish but I do get a sense of an unspoken anticipation that great things will come out of the collaboration.)

I really don't mean to be the wet blanket in all this but I just think that those who're expecting this to be some kind of renaissance for VR are likely to end up being disappointed.

i gotta say, i'm with her on this one 

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Whatever they do, they need a frontman who brings in something contemporary.

[williambailey]

Ok here is some speculation on recent events.  Let me say from the start that I don't necessarily belive that this is the best course of action for VR - but I think it is a plausible possibility of recent events.

Remeber back on 5th March when Sebastian Bach went on SmartAss radio for an interview.  Just before he went on air he received a phone call that really rattled him.  He carried on about it clearly distracted saying "Fuck man Fuck" (insert excitable Bach adjectives here) etc etc "I just got a phone call that will change my life" etc etc.  Bach then went on to say words to the effect that it will make sense later when people look back on it.

Well the 15th of March I believe was the first VR date in the UK.

Now Slash comes out in this Rolling Stone interview saying:

"There's some people, but it's really premature to start naming names. We actually worked with a guy, I won't mention his name, before we left to go to the UK and there just wasn't enough to break him in, so we're gonna work with him again some more, and maybe some other guys as well."

Those dates I mention - 5th March Bach gets the phone call, then 15th March VR have their gig in the UK, therefore a short time in between for some practice/audition sessions.  Those dates kinda fit with Slash's statement........

(Remember I am not saying whether Bach should or shouldn't get the gig, I am simply putting foreward a hypothesis based on the dates etc and the things that happened and the comments that were made)

[faldor]

Now that's creative.  You'll look like a genious if that's true, and I think they could do some damage together, but I doubt it would happen.  Don't know why the guys would have such a change of heart after they supposedly really weren't considering him too intensely the first time around.  Unless "Angel Down" opened up their eyes, which is great and all.  But again, I highly doubt it.

[MeanBone]

far fetched, but could be, i guess

[williambailey]

Yeah possible I spose. 

Personally I don't think it would be the match to get the most out of VR but it would probably be workable.

But hey - probably a long shot, I just thought all those events put together seemed kinda weird.

[cyllan]

Personally, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of Baz joining VR but, if Slash had even been considering the idea, I would have hoped that he'd have been a little more diplomatic in his answer to Rolling Stone's enquiry about Weiland's comment.

"I thought [Weiland] could be a little bit more imaginative. I'm not sure if that was meant to be a pot shot or what. Whatever, it's not worth any real drama." 

Firstly, if Baz were to join VR, it wouldn't be only Weiland being 'unimaginative', it would follow that VR were being the same; not something I can see Slash acknowledging.   

Secondly, although ambiguous, the final sentence could be taken by Baz to mean that it's inconsequential whether or not he joins the band; not a good starting point for any potential relationship, I would imagine.

[williambailey]

Personally, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of Baz joining VR but, if Slash had even been considering the idea, I would have hoped that he'd have been a little more diplomatic in his answer to Rolling Stone's enquiry about Weiland's comment.

"I thought [Weiland] could be a little bit more imaginative. I'm not sure if that was meant to be a pot shot or what. Whatever, it's not worth any real drama." 

Firstly, if Baz were to join VR, it wouldn't be only Weiland being 'unimaginative', it would follow that VR were being the same; not something I can see Slash acknowledging.   

Secondly, although ambiguous, the final sentence could be taken by Baz to mean that it's inconsequential whether or not he joins the band; not a good starting point for any potential relationship, I would imagine.

Hey I agree with what you are saying.  But hey, from what I can tell Baz was bascially the bridesmaid (or close to it) the first time around with VR (which is kinda staggering to me) so I suppose anything is possible.

[Smoking Guns]

Well, Bach has range for sure!  They could do GNR style songs.  There are positives.

[faldor]

I just don't see it.  Bach has a big summer tour planned with his current band and Slash supposedly wants to get going right away (we all know how much he hates downtime).  So aside from all the obvious reasons, the schedules just don't seem to add up.

[Smoking Guns]

Fuck, I can't wait.  This is so exciting.   Just like the project days.  I hope Izzy is really involved this time for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[COMAMOTIVE]

Are you high?  You think Slash & Duff are going to choose Bach as the next singer 

You're fuckin' crazy , my friend

He brings NOTHING to the table, NOTHING  -  If that band chooses to go on, and really look for a singer, it is not going to be a washed up has-been
who most people outside of Sebastian Bach threads on GNR boards think is a fucking joke

[williambailey]

Are you high?  You think Slash & Duff are going to choose Bach as the next singer 

You're fuckin' crazy , my friend

He brings NOTHING to the table, NOTHING  -  If that band chooses to go on, and really look for a singer, it is not going to be a washed up has-been
who most people outside of Sebastian Bach threads on GNR boards think is a fucking joke

Read my first post - I said that i don't think this is the best course of action for VR.  Whilst Bach brings some things to the table I don't belive he is the right guy for the job.  Hypothetically if he got the job I think we would be still left with VR producing something that is ok/good but still not quite right up there.

I was simply throwing a red herring into the mix based upon some recent events combined with some "left field thinking".

BTW - if he was such a joke I am sure a certain individual would not have gone out of his way to help him out with such a kind gesture of adding some killer vocals on a couple of songs - which I am sure meant some phenominal sales figures compared to what they would have been without his contribtion.