Slash speaks on split/search for new singer

[faldor]

Are you high?  You think Slash & Duff are going to choose Bach as the next singer 

You're fuckin' crazy , my friend

He brings NOTHING to the table, NOTHING  -  If that band chooses to go on, and really look for a singer, it is not going to be a washed up has-been
who most people outside of Sebastian Bach threads on GNR boards think is a fucking joke

Lots of people may start viewing Velvet Revolver as a joke if they don't get things turned around.  We know you hate Sebastian, point taken!

[IzzyDutch]

Bach ain't gonna be the singer, same with Izzy.

Bach ain't being it is a good thing, Izzy not being it is a bad thing

Bach: Duff said his vocal audition sounded to much like Skid Row, Slash said negative things about him in the Slash bio, Bach is now asskissing good friends with Axl and said some negative stuff about VR. He just ain't gonna be it.

Izzy: I'll bet those 10 songs they recorded late 2002 are amazing, but Izzy isn't gonna be fully committed to this, he'll do a short tour (like he suggested in the first place) and release an album (classic album!) but that would be it. Even now the aspirations of VR would be a little higher, or in other words less underground. Then there's also Dave in the picture, what would his roll be? It wouldn't fit (not that I care about Dave but the guys from VR do).

I hope they'll make a good choice.. Weilands vocals weren't that bad but imo he brought too much of a modern/STP influence in VR. I hope with a new singer they'll deliver some more classic stuff again. I don't think VR is gonna throw in the towel completely at this point, seems from the quotes of Matt and Slash they're much further with moving on then we thought.

[COMAMOTIVE]

BTW - if he was such a joke I am sure a certain individual would not have gone out of his way to help him out with such a kind gesture of adding some killer vocals on a couple of songs - which I am sure meant some phenominal sales figures compared to what they would have been without his contribtion.

No one on Earth thinks more of Axl Rose's ability & talents than me - but his judgement is sometimes...shall we say.....strange

Remember, this is also the man who forced "his friend" Paul Tobias into the old Gnr and actually put him on stage with the new Gnr

Axl is very loyal to people he cares about, or trusts .........That in itself does not make Sebastian any more relevant or impressive in regards to today's music scene

[Bandita]

BTW - if he was such a joke I am sure a certain individual would not have gone out of his way to help him out with such a kind gesture of adding some killer vocals on a couple of songs - which I am sure meant some phenominal sales figures compared to what they would have been without his contribtion.

No one on Earth thinks more of Axl Rose's ability & talents than me - but his judgement is sometimes...shall we say.....strange

Remember, this is also the man who forced "his friend" Paul Tobias into the old Gnr and actually put him on stage with the new Gnr

Axl is very loyal to people he cares about, or trusts .........That in itself does not make Sebastian any more relevant or impressive in regards to today's music scene

I think we got your point the 1st 3 times that you do not like Baz.

Ok.  Maybe he isn't a great songwriter but the guy does have some pipes. 

I don't really think he would fit in with VR either but smearing him over and over isn't helping your point any.

[D]

Jarmo, I swear I am not trying to bring Axl into this BUT I want to know from u and Jim Bob etc


Does it make Slash look any better in you guys eyes that maybe a lot of this had to do with Scott talkin shit about Axl?

Seems to me that really offended Slash *remember he said I can talk about him cause I know him but u cant*


So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

[COMAMOTIVE]

BTW - if he was such a joke I am sure a certain individual would not have gone out of his way to help him out with such a kind gesture of adding some killer vocals on a couple of songs - which I am sure meant some phenominal sales figures compared to what they would have been without his contribtion.

No one on Earth thinks more of Axl Rose's ability & talents than me - but his judgement is sometimes...shall we say.....strange

Remember, this is also the man who forced "his friend" Paul Tobias into the old Gnr and actually put him on stage with the new Gnr

Axl is very loyal to people he cares about, or trusts .........That in itself does not make Sebastian any more relevant or impressive in regards to today's music scene

I think we got your point the 1st 3 times that you do not like Baz.

Ok.  Maybe he isn't a great songwriter but the guy does have some pipes. 

I don't really think he would fit in with VR either but smearing him over and over isn't helping your point any.

Yes, I admit , I overdo it with the Baz Bashing - I don't mean to offend anyone who may like him

[COMAMOTIVE]

Jarmo, I swear I am not trying to bring Axl into this BUT I want to know from u and Jim Bob etc


Does it make Slash look any better in you guys eyes that maybe a lot of this had to do with Scott talkin shit about Axl?

Seems to me that really offended Slash *remember he said I can talk about him cause I know him but u cant*


So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

Solid point D --  I remember reading that as well - 

[Bandita]

Jarmo, I swear I am not trying to bring Axl into this BUT I want to know from u and Jim Bob etc


Does it make Slash look any better in you guys eyes that maybe a lot of this had to do with Scott talkin shit about Axl?

Seems to me that really offended Slash *remember he said I can talk about him cause I know him but u cant*


So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

Solid point D --  I remember reading that as well - 

Is Slash on delayed reaction though?  Did he just wake up over 2 years later and get pissed off?

If this bothered him so much you would think he would have done something about it in 2005-2006 when these things actually occurred?  It's April of 2008 now, a bit late to be reacting about things said so long ago. 

Obviously there were other problems and factors here and with all the mudslinging these guys are doing at each other over the net, it's nearly impossible to figure out where the blame really lies.

[Falcon]

Jarmo, I swear I am not trying to bring Axl into this BUT I want to know from u and Jim Bob etc


Does it make Slash look any better in you guys eyes that maybe a lot of this had to do with Scott talkin shit about Axl?

Seems to me that really offended Slash *remember he said I can talk about him cause I know him but u cant*


So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

Solid point D --  I remember reading that as well - 

A little too much analysis here..

Make no mistake, Scott left VR. 

VR did not leave Scott Weiland.

Smart money says if Slash wouldn't have made (then lied about) going to his ex bandmates home the VR house of cards would have been at least more stable than it was before the inevitable STP reunion nailed the Weiland era version of the bands coffin shut.

[jarmo]

So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

The only way he can earn some respect points is by starting to act like "an adult" and telling the truth.


The only reason Scott said those things were because of Slash.

He lied to his band mates and fans.



/jarmo

[Bandita]

Smart money says if Slash wouldn't have made (then lied about) going to his ex bandmates home the VR house of cards would have been at least more stable than it was before the inevitable STP reunion nailed the Weiland era version of the bands coffin shut.

Amen to this as I believe it is probably fact.

Slash should have been spending more time focusing on his current situation. 

[D]

is it a coincidence that Matt said "the world isnt holding its breath for an STP reunion and now we got one and VR are no more?


Could that have been a huge thing that pissed Scott off with matt?

[IzzyDutch]

If Scott was so pissed about Slash visiting Axl's house he would've left back then, not a few years later..

I think there are several factors, with Slash not being the main one. The main thing is STP again, then there's the quirrel's with Matt (and the rest probably backing up Matt), they've pulled eachothers hair out before.

[Falcon]

If Scott was so pissed about Slash visiting Axl's house he would've left back then, not a few years later..

Not necessarily..

Who knows what Slash said to pacify him and attempt to regain his trust?  Hell, he lied to the entire planet on CF radio about the visit in the first place - can you imagine what he may have said to Weiland (and the others for that matter) to diffuse the situation once he was outed with that press release?

I realize there is/was multiple factors in the entire fiasco, we'd be naive
to think otherwise.  With that in mind, the trust ship sailed (with Weiland especially) as soon as Slash admitted making that trip, who in their right mind wouldn't have doubts after that??

The STP thng was eventually gonna get 'em anyway, that was gonna happen regardless.

[Bandita]

is it a coincidence that Matt said "the world isnt holding its breath for an STP reunion and now we got one and VR are no more?


Could that have been a huge thing that pissed Scott off with matt?

Probably, but it seems like a lot of words were thrown around between these guys which made working together impossible.

I wish the STP thing well but I think Scott is a bit delusional if he actually does think the world was waiting for them to reunite.  I lived through that era and eh, it wasn't that great.  A few cool songs but nothing earth shattering.  I am sure them doing the tour will do moderately well, though.  People like nostalgia.

Seems they are all doing too much talking and not enough playing right now.

Frankly they all need to STFU and concentrate on their respective projects and stop yelling at each other over the web.

[Smoking Guns]

So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

The only way he can earn some respect points is by starting to act like "an adult" and telling the truth.


The only reason Scott said those things were because of Slash.

He lied to his band mates and fans.



/jarmo

Agreed, Scott only said those things because he thought Axl was the one lying.  I actually respected Scott, not for what he said, because he said something. 

[Wheres Izzy]

Bach ain't gonna be the singer, same with Izzy.

Bach ain't being it is a good thing, Izzy not being it is a bad thing

Bach: Duff said his vocal audition sounded to much like Skid Row, Slash said negative things about him in the Slash bio, Bach is now asskissing good friends with Axl and said some negative stuff about VR. He just ain't gonna be it.

Izzy: I'll bet those 10 songs they recorded late 2002 are amazing, but Izzy isn't gonna be fully committed to this, he'll do a short tour (like he suggested in the first place) and release an album (classic album!) but that would be it. Even now the aspirations of VR would be a little higher, or in other words less underground. Then there's also Dave in the picture, what would his roll be? It wouldn't fit (not that I care about Dave but the guys from VR do).

I hope they'll make a good choice.. Weilands vocals weren't that bad but imo he brought too much of a modern/STP influence in VR. I hope with a new singer they'll deliver some more classic stuff again. I don't think VR is gonna throw in the towel completely at this point, seems from the quotes of Matt and Slash they're much further with moving on then we thought.

Wouldn't it be awesome as hell tho if they brought Izzy in and made an album as a one off thing with Duff and Izzy on vocals? No major commitment, maybe a short tour-don't even have to call it Velvet Revolver. Maybe something to do between singers instead of having a long gap of nothing going on while searching for somebody. And as far as Baz I don't think that's happening. Baz is a total dork, but he seems like a nice enough guy and after all Axl has done for him I think even he knows that would be a slap in the face to Axl.

Jarmo, I swear I am not trying to bring Axl into this BUT I want to know from u and Jim Bob etc


Does it make Slash look any better in you guys eyes that maybe a lot of this had to do with Scott talkin shit about Axl?

Seems to me that really offended Slash *remember he said I can talk about him cause I know him but u cant*


So if Slash didnt want to be in a band with him anymore cause of Scott saying that, does that win Slash back some respect points in you guys eyes?

Solid point D --  I remember reading that as well - 

I don't think Slash didn't want to be in a band with him anymore cause of this, but I could def. see where it would put a strain on the Scott/Slash relationship. Scott probably thought he was doing the right thing by Slash and sticking up for him and may have perceived SLash as being ungrateful.

[IzzyDutch]

Izzy: I'll bet those 10 songs they recorded late 2002 are amazing, but Izzy isn't gonna be fully committed to this, he'll do a short tour (like he suggested in the first place) and release an album (classic album!) but that would be it. Even now the aspirations of VR would be a little higher, or in other words less underground. Then there's also Dave in the picture, what would his roll be? It wouldn't fit (not that I care about Dave but the guys from VR do).

Wouldn't it be awesome as hell tho if they brought Izzy in and made an album as a one off thing with Duff and Izzy on vocals? No major commitment, maybe a short tour-don't even have to call it Velvet Revolver. Maybe something to do between singers instead of having a long gap of nothing going on while searching for somebody.

It can even get better; There's also a SID album from before the Project recorded late 2001, only this one has Taz Bentley (from the other cd's) on drums instead of Matt It's finished and all.. funny thing is that Slash said it didn't sound like GN'R or Snakepit.

But yeah a release like that would be awesome.. I think they (or Izzy) won't release any of that stuff on purpose though, cause of some nostalgic reasons

[kobys]

It'll sure be interesting to see what else Scott, Slash, and Matt will have to say about this situation in the next few days. I truely believe that there was some really seriously bad stuff that went on with this band that none of us know about yet. I've always said that I thought eventually Scott would prove to be too difficult for the rest of the band to deal with. What the hell is it with lead singers anyway?

[ppbebe]

gossip sells. guess the prospects of stp and vr aren't dark after all.