Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland

[Ali]

This is a GN'R site. Matt Sorum was fired for being a prick.





/jarmo

By WHO'S admission?  Matt Sorum ... and this is the only documented story ... was fired because he stood up for Slash.  That's not being a prick.  That's going against the fucking authority... an authority who can't stand being told he's wrong.

Once again. You choose to believe what he wants you to believe.

If you honestly think that he was fired just for that single incident, then good for you. I chose to belive that it was something that had been going on for a bit longer than that.

It's like thinking Scott was fired because he wanted to do that STP tour...







/jarmo

Well ... no ... it's not.  Because Sorum WAS fired ... and Scott quit.

You just desperately want to believe that Sorum was a fucking cunt the whole time.

While you'll never admit that Axl perhaps just acted like typical Axl and fired him out of anger.  Now ... he fired Gilby with very little explaination ... and countless people have said that Axl was a moron.  Countless.  So I suspect in this case, yes ... Axl did fire Matt for that one thing.  Remember ... Slash was one of Axl's worst enemies at the time ... it would have been some kind of betrayal for Sorum to say good things about Slash and bad things about good ole' Paul Tobias.

Plenty of people have said Axl's a moron?  I don't know about that.  Difficult, temperamental, a perfectionist, yes, I've read those things too.  Not moron.  I've never read that, actually.  The opposite in fact, even from his former bandmates.

Ali

[elmir]

You just desperately want to believe that Sorum was a fucking cunt the whole time.

well, he was...even Slash indicated about it in his book....Matt's comments over the years in the press and on TV have cealry made him an isolated twat in the world of GNR....

he's a good drummer...very good in fact, and has other musical talents too....but he's still a twat...

[SpiritDave]

You just desperately want to believe that Sorum was a fucking cunt the whole time.

well, he was...even Slash indicated about it in his book....Matt's comments over the years in the press and on TV have cealry made him an isolated twat in the world of GNR....

he's a good drummer...very good in fact, and has other musical talents too....but he's still a twat...

Slash never indicated that.

[lynn1961]

Just like all those VR articles that claim they fired Scott. He quit.




/jarmo

Guess that depends on how you want to look at it.    Seems like what he did was to take it upon himself to announce, on stage, that the band was done, evidently without consulting any other member about it.   The original press release never said he was fired, just that they were "parting ways". 

[elmir]

Slash never indicated that.

he never said it directly, no....but he did say that Matt lost it with Axl one night in Europe when Axl decided to walk off stage, shouting at him and giving him a lecture as to hwo to behave...even though he was only employed for a short while.

to me that's an indication.

[JimBobTTD]

Slash never indicated that.

he never said it directly, no....but he did say that Matt lost it with Axl one night in Europe when Axl decided to walk off stage, shouting at him and giving him a lecture as to hwo to behave...even though he was only employed for a short while.

to me that's an indication.

An indication that Matt is not a twat, perhaps!

[elmir]

An indication that Matt is not a twat, perhaps!

it didn't come across as very complimentary to Matt....

[oldgunsfan]

How many times have Axl fans been fucked off because he didn't turn up to a show etc?  At least VR cancelled before the night

Stop pulling shit out of your ass for no reason.

Not as many as you'd care to think.

And he's gone back and played those places.

It's not likely to happen with VR is it?

Not to rip on Axl but can you please tell me the last time he played Philly?  It sure as hell wasn't after he no-showed.....and I was at the show

Pathetic.

Maybe playing places where the "fans" destroy your equipment isn't a high priority.

Maybe the fucking promoter doesn't want to risk anything and doesn't wanna book a show there thanks to these fans?

/jarmo

what the fuck are you talking about?  This is Philly, not St louis

And you guarantee no damage was done to the band's own, or any of the equipment they had rented for the tour?


jarmo

only damage to the arena
I guess you had to be there
and the original post wasn't about damaging an arena, but this quote speaking of Axl

"And he's gone back and played those places.

It's not likely to happen with VR is it?"

when talking about cancelled shows; hey, at least VR cancels before packing the place with 20,000 people and cancelling right before they are supposed to go on; after sitting thru 2 torture filled opening acts---

I think even the most die-hard GnR fan would recognixe there is a bit of a difference between cancellations

[jarmo]

I think even the most die-hard GnR fan would recognixe there is a bit of a difference between cancellations

It's just typical of VR fans.

VR canceled their Australaian tour twice and those fans won't see Weiland sing those songs again until the long awaited VR reunion.

Instead of sticking with that thought, you have to take the "But GN'R...." route.





/jarmo

[oldgunsfan]

I think even the most die-hard GnR fan would recognixe there is a bit of a difference between cancellations

It's just typical of VR fans.

VR canceled their Australaian tour twice and those fans won't see Weiland sing those songs again until the long awaited VR reunion.

Instead of sticking with that thought, you have to take the "But GN'R...." route.





/jarmo

actually, I think it was you that brought GnR to the thread

[jarmo]

actually, I think it was you that brought GnR to the thread

Look again: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=51269.msg1058001#msg1058001

First mention of Axl was not done by me but a guy with the name Slash in his username.



/jarmo

[lynn1961]

You kind of set that one up, though.......setting the bait, so to speak.....

[Atillla]

To think that him, Slash or Scott are just great guys because they have friends is just lame in my opinion.

Well, I think it's a positve reflection on his character that he has maintained great personal and professional relationships with the majority of his peer group.  I'd think the people closest to him would have exposed him as being "two faced" and cut ties with him if that was indeed the case. 

On a personal side, I've met and spoke with the guy a few times and found him to be extemely engaging and intellegent, one of the flat out nicest celebs I've ever ran across.

The guy can do anything, but since he's friends with The Cult, he must be s a great guy! 

I'm assuming the above was said with tongue firmly implanted in cheek.

What you talk about is a classic example of someone who knows how to suck up to the right people  and only show his real face to he ones he knows won't be believed.... Ronnie James Dio is known to be one of those too, always sucking up to media people and kissing the butts of fans... but being totally nasty to the ones he works with.. just ask his former employees

We all got friends we know are pricks, yet we still hang out with them, so your theory is baseless   

I met Slash once backstage, he basically said to get rid of all backstage fans in the hallways and he refused aggressively he wouldn't sign "shit".... amazing guy.

[Falcon]

We all got friends we know are pricks, yet we still hang out with them,   

Speak for yourself...

I met Slash once backstage, he basically said to get rid of all backstage fans in the hallways and he refused aggressively he wouldn't sign "shit".... amazing guy.

Hardly relevent to Sorum...

[SpiritDave]

Slash never indicated that.

he never said it directly, no....but he did say that Matt lost it with Axl one night in Europe when Axl decided to walk off stage, shouting at him and giving him a lecture as to hwo to behave...even though he was only employed for a short while.

to me that's an indication.

So because Axl walked off stage, disrespected the band, crew, promoter, crowd of fans, and everyone else that'd worked their fucking asses off to make sure Axl had a fucking stage to play on ... he's a cunt?  Oh do me a favor!  lol.  That just proves that Matt stood up for what was fucking right!!!!  Even Jarmo and other Matt haters would have to agree, that's pretty much the right thing to do, considering what a bad thing he was arguing against!

[oldgunsfan]

actually, I think it was you that brought GnR to the thread

Look again: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=51269.msg1058001#msg1058001

First mention of Axl was not done by me but a guy with the name Slash in his username.


/jarmo

I was basically disputing this assertion you made about me"It's just typical of VR fans.

VR canceled their Australaian tour twice and those fans won't see Weiland sing those songs again until the long awaited VR reunion.

Instead of sticking with that thought, you have to take the "But GN'R...." route."

I never did and even prefaced my original comment by saying"not to slam Axl....

[jarmo]

Even Jarmo and other Matt haters would have to agree, that's pretty much the right thing to do, considering what a bad thing he was arguing against!

Don't get me involved in your little Matt lovefest. 


The truth still is that during this time when everything was wrong according to him, he was happy to be part of the biggest band in the world and wouldn't even quit when he was asked if he was gonna. Just so he could be the martyr.....





/jarmo

[manicstreet]

Even Jarmo and other Matt haters would have to agree, that's pretty much the right thing to do, considering what a bad thing he was arguing against!

Don't get me involved in your little Matt lovefest. 


The truth still is that during this time when everything was wrong according to him, he was happy to be part of the biggest band in the world and wouldn't even quit when he was asked if he was gonna. Just so he could be the martyr.....


I dont post here often but i am really curious how you would react 5 - 10 years from now if axl, slash, duff & izzy reunited for a tour what your reaction would be. You really seem to dislike like these guys.

[Atillla]

I met Slash once backstage, he basically said to get rid of all backstage fans in the hallways and he refused aggressively he wouldn't sign "shit".... amazing guy.

Hardly relevent to Sorum...

Where does it say this is an exclusively Matt Sorum thread?

If you can talk about your experience meeting Sorum/Scott/Duff/who ever in a VR thread, I can talk about my experience meeting Slash here as long as he is in VR 

[Ines_rocks!]

I met Slash once backstage, he basically said to get rid of all backstage fans in the hallways and he refused aggressively he wouldn't sign "shit".... amazing guy.

You know... I met the guy as well and I?m sure we aren?t talking about the same person...