Dr. Pepper's Chinese Democracy press release

[axlrosegnr]

I forgot exactly what it was, but like the after the superbowl, taco bell had a promotion where everyone in the country got a free taco or something like that.....you didn't have to have anything with you, but you coud only get it on that one day and between a specific time, so I'm betting it will work something like that.....oh well, not that a really care I guess, If I want a Dr Pepper that bad I'll just go buy one, lol.

[ppbebe]

made the decision to hold Dr. Pepper's feet to the fire and call their bluff with the threat of a lawsuit for using the GNR name without permission.

I doubt that. GNR name has been used thousands of times without permission by the media, in films, books and so on.

I'd rather see good intention in people.

[DarkFairy]

Hilarious  I haven't stopped laughing

[Ali]

made the decision to hold Dr. Pepper's feet to the fire and call their bluff with the threat of a lawsuit for using the GNR name without permission.

I doubt that. GNR name has been used thousands of times without permission by the media, in films, books and so on.

I'd rather see good intention in people.

No, she's right.  You can't use someone's name in a promotion without their consent.  That doesn't necessarily mean you will be sued, but you are opening the door to the possibility to being sued.

Ali

[TomFriend]

made the decision to hold Dr. Pepper's feet to the fire and call their bluff with the threat of a lawsuit for using the GNR name without permission.

I doubt that. GNR name has been used thousands of times without permission by the media, in films, books and so on.

I'd rather see good intention in people.

No, she's right.  You can't use someone's name in a promotion without their consent.  That doesn't necessarily mean you will be sued, but you are opening the door to the possibility to being sued.

Ali

Exactly, Guns N' Roses is a registered trademark. Anyone who thinks that you can just slap it on any promotion that takes your fancy is way off.

[ppbebe]

made the decision to hold Dr. Pepper's feet to the fire and call their bluff with the threat of a lawsuit for using the GNR name without permission.

I doubt that. GNR name has been used thousands of times without permission by the media, in films, books and so on.

I'd rather see good intention in people.

No, she's right.  You can't use someone's name in a promotion without their consent.  That doesn't necessarily mean you will be sued, but you are opening the door to the possibility to being sued.

Ali

then they can.
are you agreeing that GNR made a threat against dr pepper for the supposed 'april fool joke' or you didn't read her post?

[jarmo]

Exactly, Guns N' Roses is a registered trademark. Anyone who thinks that you can just slap it on any promotion that takes your fancy is way off.

Yet there's a bunch of shitty unofficial books, DVDs, CDs, t-shirts and things out there.


What part of:

We are surprised and very happy to have the support of Dr. Pepper with our album Chinese Democracy as for us this came totally out of the blue. If there is any involvement with this promotion by our record company or others we are unaware of such at this time. And as some of Buckethead's performances are on our album I'll share my Dr. Pepper with him.

Axl Rose


is unclear?

The whole thing was made by Dr Pepper on their own.



/jarmo

[Ed Rose]

In a Press Release promotion, anyone's name can be used. Through press releases, the "Media Machine" does all the promoting and it ends up being FREE advertising for Dr. Pepper AND Guns N' Roses.

Until you actually see paid-for ads by Dr. Pepper with the Guns N' Roses name in print, web ads, on tv or on radio, it's all legal.

[Ali]

made the decision to hold Dr. Pepper's feet to the fire and call their bluff with the threat of a lawsuit for using the GNR name without permission.

I doubt that. GNR name has been used thousands of times without permission by the media, in films, books and so on.

I'd rather see good intention in people.

No, she's right.  You can't use someone's name in a promotion without their consent.  That doesn't necessarily mean you will be sued, but you are opening the door to the possibility to being sued.

Ali

then they can.
are you agreeing that GNR made a threat against dr pepper for the supposed 'april fool joke' or you didn't read her post?

No, I'm not agreeing they made such a threat.  I did read her post.  The point was they CAN threaten a lawsuit because of unauthorized use of a name or likeness in a promotion, if it indeed becomes a full out promotional campaign.  Not that they did or will file a lawsuit.  They being GN'R.

GN'R obviously decided not to even go down that road and be appreciative of the support.  Good for them in taking the high road on that issue.  Kudos.

Ali

[ppbebe]

then you didn't read my post and the words I quoted.
and no like jarmo and edo said, they can't be sued just for mentioning the name.

It could no more be an april fool joke when it made the news.
and the unexpected warm response from axl sealed it.

[Atillla]

Exactly, Guns N' Roses is a registered trademark. Anyone who thinks that you can just slap it on any promotion that takes your fancy is way off.

Yet there's a bunch of shitty unofficial books, DVDs, CDs, t-shirts and things out there.


/jarmo

Bingo.

This entire 5 page discussion about who can get sued and what not is just useless. Took away the excitement out of this thread too 

[ppbebe]

Some people are just too cool aren't they?

[GypsySoul]

then they can.
are you agreeing that GNR made a threat against dr pepper for the supposed 'april fool joke' or you didn't read her post?

oy fuckin vey!!!  Do you know what the word "theory" means??  It means it's what I think MAYBE could have POSSIBLY have happened.

Gypsy's theory on how things went down:

GYPSY DISCLAIMER:  I HAVE NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF ANYONE IN THE GNR CAMP ISSUING ANY THREATS TO ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, ON ANY MATTER WHATSOEVER, INCLUDING ANYONE IN THE DR. PEPPER ORGANIZATION.

 

[ppbebe]

then they can.
are you agreeing that GNR made a threat against dr pepper for the supposed 'april fool joke' or you didn't read her post?

oy fuckin vey!!!  Do you know what the word "theory" means??  It means it's what I think MAYBE could have POSSIBLY have happened.

and I'm saying don't buy your theory.

[Ali]

then you didn't read my post and the words I quoted.
and no like jarmo and edo said, they can't be sued just for mentioning the name.

It could no more be an april fool joke when it made the news.
and the unexpected warm response from axl sealed it.

And you didn't read my last post where I said if it becomes a full-out promotion, beyond the initial press release.  That is inevitable if this comes to fruition.  There will be promotional materials used in print, online and on-air applications and there will be permission and consent absolutely needed at that point. 

Lucky for Dr. Pepper, they already have Axl and GN'R's support of this.  It could work out to help all parties involved in the end, so every can win with this.

Ali

[TomFriend]

Exactly, Guns N' Roses is a registered trademark. Anyone who thinks that you can just slap it on any promotion that takes your fancy is way off.

Yet there's a bunch of shitty unofficial books, DVDs, CDs, t-shirts and things out there.


What part of:

We are surprised and very happy to have the support of Dr. Pepper with our album Chinese Democracy as for us this came totally out of the blue. If there is any involvement with this promotion by our record company or others we are unaware of such at this time. And as some of Buckethead's performances are on our album I'll share my Dr. Pepper with him.

Axl Rose


is unclear?

The whole thing was made by Dr Pepper on their own.



/jarmo

If you're talking to me, I never suggested otherwise.

I'm pointing out that if Dr Pepper followed through with this and used GNR's name in advertisements, they would need the band's permission to do so.

[ppbebe]

then you didn't read my post and the words I quoted.
and no like jarmo and edo said, they can't be sued just for mentioning the name.

It could no more be an april fool joke when it made the news.
and the unexpected warm response from axl sealed it.

And you didn't read my last post where I said if it becomes a full-out promotion, beyond the initial press release.  That is inevitable if this comes to fruition.  There will be promotional materials used in print, online and on-air applications and there will be permission and consent absolutely needed at that point. 

Lucky for Dr. Pepper, they already have Axl and GN'R's support of this.  It could work out to help all parties involved in the end, so every can win with this.

Ali

whatever. I responded to your reply to my post.

[D]

No, Dr Pepper wouldn't need GNR's permission as they aren't "Profiting" from GNR

If they are giving something away, then its not using GNR's name illegally.

Its like how Tabloids can do all that shit on celebrities and not get sued.

If they were using GNR likeness on their product they could get sued.

So those who think GNR are involved because Axl didnt sue them or send a letter are wrong.

[kingcanute]

This was a PR masterstroke from Dr. Pepper, no doubt. Good for GNR, too!

[Nytunz]

Axl said the timing with the Angel Down album couldent be better! But i guess he didnt see this coming..
Since they have got the deal with a managment-team now, the future news and updates could be very interesting