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Topic: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone' (Read 64210 times)
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Re: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'
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Quote from: jarmo on March 24, 2008, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Neemo on March 24, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
i'm still not gonna count them out until its official
Official?
The shit hit the fan, officially....
I hope you have that attitude regarding every other band you listen to......
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well sometimes when people have a chance to settle down then things sort themselves out
i have loads of other bands i listen to that have weathered the storms
Megadeth were all but down and out when mustaine hurt himself, then they came back
Bush was over now it appears that Gavin Rossdale is goign to attempt a comeback in the next year or so
Candlebox disbanded only to reform just recently
not that i'm fond of it but AIC and Blindmelon are back together
Rage is back together now
STP broke up and are gonna tour this summer
hell even Van Halen, Sabbath, PinkFloyd, the Police and Zeppelin managed to put differences aside and perform again (I just hope that VR dont take as long to get shit sorted out as those guys
if its jsut words then its easy to forgive, its not like sorum and weiland had a fist fight (that we know of anyway) but matt and scott are definately polar opposites they even had problems during touring of Contraband...i thihnk they just need a break from each other
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Re: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'
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difference is, VH, the police etc. actually had BIG $$ to get back together...VR was a sinking ship, a supergroup gimmick...and now scotts jumping ship...
nomatter what they say to the press "were not a supergroup, were a gang" they never last....I dont think youll see VR reunite...just like you wont see Audioslave reunite...theres no real purpose for supergroups to reunite...people are interested for the first cd because of the hype...and slowly they just forget about it...
Scotts moving onto STP which is bigger., and if you notice the "im on my 9th" that would make you assume they are working on a new STP album...
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Quote from: guns_n_motley on March 24, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
difference is, VH, the police etc. actually had BIG $$ to get back together...VR was a sinking ship, a supergroup gimmick...and now scotts jumping ship...
nomatter what they say to the press "were not a supergroup, were a gang" they never last....I dont think youll see VR reunite...just like you wont see Audioslave reunite...theres no real purpose for supergroups to reunite...people are interested for the first cd because of the hype...and slowly they just forget about it...
Scotts moving onto STP which is bigger., and if you notice the "im on my 9th" that would make you assume they are working on a new STP album...
Or, it could be including his solo album, which would give 9 total records. 6 STP records (including Thank You) + 12 Bar Blues + 2 VR Records.
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Quote from: Ali on March 24, 2008, 09:17:46 PM
Or, it could be including his solo album, which would give 9 total records. 6 STP records (including Thank You) + 12 Bar Blues + 2 VR Records.
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More likely he means 5 STP records, 1 solo record, 2 VR records and he's working on his ninth: his second solo record.
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Quote from: Neemo on March 24, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
well if anyone knows a junkie's mind its one who has travelled the path. I'm sure that duff and slash understand what he is going through and were of some help to him back then when he was trying to get clean..
i'm still not gonna count them out until its official
My guess is we will hear something when the tour is over but for now...
At press time, the band's rep had not responded to MTV News' request for comment, and there's no official word on the VR site
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Is this the beginning of the end? A rep publicist for the band kept mum when we (TMZ) asked.
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To be honest, I was never a fan of VR, but if they do call it quits at least some of the younger fans got a chance to see Slash and Duff play together live.
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Quote from: Eazy E on March 24, 2008, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: Ali on March 24, 2008, 09:17:46 PM
Or, it could be including his solo album, which would give 9 total records. 6 STP records (including Thank You) + 12 Bar Blues + 2 VR Records.
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More likely he means 5 STP records, 1 solo record, 2 VR records and he's working on his ninth: his second solo record.
It depends on how you want to interpret his definition of a record. Is it a release, period, or is it a release of all original material? Is it what has been officially released? In that case solo album number 2 does not merit consideration as it has not been released as of yet.
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Quote from: TomFriend on March 24, 2008, 09:44:38 PM
To be honest, I was never a fan of VR, but if they do call it quits at least some of the younger fans got a chance to see Slash and Duff play together live.
Yeah I'm pretty happy about that. I'm 23 and have been a fan of Slash and Duff since I was about 10. I have been to see VR 5 times and it's been a great thrill to see two of my childhood heroes as far as musicians go on stage. If anything I'm glad VR lated a while so I could do that.
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Re: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'
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How many times has Scott went off in the press about a bandmember?
I think Matt has been grating on his nerves for years and he finally exploded.
I think we all have that one guy or friend in our life who just gets on your fuckin nerves. someone who knows it all and are too cool for the room and are just annoying.
That seems like Matt to me. Every interview I've ever seen of the guy he drives me fuckin crazy, I couldnt imagine having to be around the guy all the time.
I am absolutely on Scott's side with this. Cause for Scott to go off that way, Matt had to do something.
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Scott is just really not a "guy's guy". And Matt is. Matt likes to have fun, meet girls, and have sex. He also will drink a beer and cut up with his band mates. Scott is as fun and easy going. Even Slash said he isn't the type of guy you sit around and have a beer with. So really he isn't friendly. But Matt is. Matt may be a dooshe, but he would be much better to chill with than Artsy Fartsy Weiland.
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Re: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on March 24, 2008, 10:41:16 PM
Scott is just really not a "guy's guy". And Matt is. Matt likes to have fun, meet girls, and have sex. He also will drink a beer and cut up with his band mates. Scott is as fun and easy going. Even Slash said he isn't the type of guy you sit around and have a beer with. So really he isn't friendly. But Matt is. Matt may be a dooshe, but he would be much better to chill with than Artsy Fartsy Weiland.
Everything you mentioned is basically things that happen "after work" so to speak.
The subject mentions the words ego and jealousy. I wouldn't be surprised if those are related to "work issues".
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on March 24, 2008, 10:41:16 PM
Scott is just really not a "guy's guy". And Matt is. Matt likes to have fun, meet girls, and have sex. He also will drink a beer and cut up with his band mates. Scott is as fun and easy going. Even Slash said he isn't the type of guy you sit around and have a beer with. So really he isn't friendly. But Matt is. Matt may be a dooshe, but he would be much better to chill with than Artsy Fartsy Weiland.
Everything you mentioned is basically things that happen "after work" so to speak.
The subject mentions the words ego and jealousy. I wouldn't be surprised if those are related to "work issues".
/jarmo
I think that may lead to a bad working environment. If you don't personally like the people you work with, sometimes it doesn't matter. As you see here, sometimes it does. Also, in America, they encourage team building, and hanging out after work to build a bond with coworkers. When you have 4 guys hanging together and another being to "busy" to do that, it can create tension.
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I thought I heard something once of Matt's groupie scene backstage and how Scott didnt want his wife and daughter to see that stuff or maybe that scene backstage causes conflict with Scott and his wife cause maybe it makes her jealous.
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on March 24, 2008, 10:50:27 PM
I think that may lead to a bad working environment. If you don't personally like the people you work with, sometimes it doesn't matter. As you see here, sometimes it does. Also, in America, they encourage team building, and hanging out after work to build a bond with coworkers. When you have 4 guys hanging together and another being to "busy" to do that, it can create tension.
That's true.
My point was, you don't have to have the same "hobbies" to be in a band or work together.
I just suspect that it might be more about stuff that happened that were related to their music. Writing, live performances or something like that.
For example. If a tour is canceled because of one guy's activities outside work, the others might get annoyed.
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Re: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'
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Quote from: guns_n_motley on March 24, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
difference is, VH, the police etc. actually had BIG $$ to get back together...VR was a sinking ship, a supergroup gimmick...and now scotts jumping ship...
nomatter what they say to the press "were not a supergroup, were a gang" they never last....I dont think youll see VR reunite...just like you wont see Audioslave reunite...theres no real purpose for supergroups to reunite...people are interested for the first cd because of the hype...and slowly they just forget about it...
That whole statement doesn't set well with me. I hate the label supergroup (and supergroup gimmick, now) no matter who it is. It's just that - this is what any of these guys do for a living. Just like the rest of us do something, for a living. Some people stay at one job their whole career. Others move on, sometimes successfully and sometimes not. It's a journey. Why is it when a rock musician's "job" ends with a band, for whatever reason, and then they regroup with other musicians of the same caliber and experience, they have to be called a gimmick or supergroup. I think that's very insulting. Like the rest of us, they move on with their careers.
As for the whole "gang" thing, I'm sure VR might have felt like that in the beginning, but obviously, it doesn't seem to be working that way anymore.
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They are getting some bad press...from Fuse TV in part:
Velvet Revolver Imploding
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Yikes! Weiland also calls Sorum immature and notes that he (Weiland) has only ever had to cancel one tour due to drug abuse. So Weiland... wins? Who knows. And who knows how this affects the rumored opening slot on the rumored Led Zeppelin tour, but one can't imagine the Zep guys wanting to carry these d-bags around on tour.
http://fuseblog.typepad.com/fuseblog/2008/03/velvet-revolver.html
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Quote from: D on March 24, 2008, 10:51:22 PM
I thought I heard something once of Matt's groupie scene backstage and how Scott didnt want his wife and daughter to see that stuff or maybe that scene backstage causes conflict with Scott and his wife cause maybe it makes her jealous.
i heard that too. its pretty well known matt likes to "play the field" with any chance he gets.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 24, 2008, 11:12:25 PM
They are getting some bad press...from Fuse TV in part:
Velvet Revolver Imploding
March 24, 2008
Yikes! Weiland also calls Sorum immature and notes that he (Weiland) has only ever had to cancel one tour due to drug abuse. So Weiland... wins? Who knows. And who knows how this affects the rumored opening slot on the rumored Led Zeppelin tour,
but one can't imagine the Zep guys wanting to carry these d-bags around on tour.
http://fuseblog.typepad.com/fuseblog/2008/03/velvet-revolver.html
OUCH that was some harsh wording lmao
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Quote from: jarmo on March 24, 2008, 11:08:03 PM
Quote from: Smoking Guns on March 24, 2008, 10:50:27 PM
I think that may lead to a bad working environment. If you don't personally like the people you work with, sometimes it doesn't matter. As you see here, sometimes it does. Also, in America, they encourage team building, and hanging out after work to build a bond with coworkers. When you have 4 guys hanging together and another being to "busy" to do that, it can create tension.
That's true.
My point was, you don't have to have the same "hobbies" to be in a band or work together.
I just suspect that it might be more about stuff that happened that were related to their music. Writing, live performances or something like that.
For example. If a tour is canceled because of one guy's activities outside work, the others might get annoyed.
/jarmo
Oh, I follow you now. Good point.
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Quote from: Feel_The_Burn on March 24, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 24, 2008, 11:12:25 PM
They are getting some bad press...from Fuse TV in part:
Velvet Revolver Imploding
March 24, 2008
Yikes! Weiland also calls Sorum immature and notes that he (Weiland) has only ever had to cancel one tour due to drug abuse. So Weiland... wins? Who knows. And who knows how this affects the rumored opening slot on the rumored Led Zeppelin tour,
but one can't imagine the Zep guys wanting to carry these d-bags around on tour.
http://fuseblog.typepad.com/fuseblog/2008/03/velvet-revolver.html
OUCH that was some harsh wording lmao
Weiland and Sorum are major DBags. That isn't up for debate.
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