Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'

[ppbebe]

See, the thing is, though, some celebrities still like to keep their stints in rehab private.  Of course, having an accident while under the influence of something and ending up with court dates (again) is kind of a public thing.  So, who do you think people are going to blame when a tour is postponed a week after that incident?         

yea and I'm not saying scott was blameless. but did his band mates stand up for him?

[SpiritDave]

he was polite and just updated the fans in his own words.

Who do you think this was aimed at:

Unfortunatly some people in this business don?t realize how great of a life they have.

and

Everybody could see who was unhappy lastnight but all I can say is Let?s keep the Rock alive people!!!!

Yes, Jarmo, you're absolutely right ... it was aimed at Scott ... but hardly lashing out and having a go!  Jeez, there's a distinct difference between insulting and putting someone down (Scott did plenty in his statement), and simply telling the fans that there were some conflicts in the band that night due to a specific member being unhappy.

Sorry, but while perhaps Matt shouldn't have put the post up, it was very very very very very tame compared to how Scott lashed out.

[elmir]

Sorry, but while perhaps Matt shouldn't have put the post up, it was very very very very very tame compared to how Scott lashed out.

maybe Matt finally realised that his place is behind the drums, and not in the front, leading the band.

[jarmo]

he was polite and just updated the fans in his own words.

Who do you think this was aimed at:

Unfortunatly some people in this business don?t realize how great of a life they have.

and

Everybody could see who was unhappy lastnight but all I can say is Let?s keep the Rock alive people!!!!

Yes, Jarmo, you're absolutely right ... it was aimed at Scott ... but hardly lashing out and having a go!  Jeez, there's a distinct difference between insulting and putting someone down (Scott did plenty in his statement), and simply telling the fans that there were some conflicts in the band that night due to a specific member being unhappy.

Sorry, but while perhaps Matt shouldn't have put the post up, it was very very very very very tame compared to how Scott lashed out.

Tame? Possibly.


Do you honestly think Scott reacted that way only because of the blog post?





/jarmo

[Smoking Guns]

Some photos from the Manchester show...Slash, Duff and some of Matt singing...

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=velvet%20revolver&src=quick

Why did Scott take so long to start dressing cool?  He actually looks cool in those pics.  Hmmm.... 

I am looking forward now.  When does the new singer join?

[AdZ]

As for his playing, like him or not he's one of the most respected guys in the business and has a resume second to none.

Second to none?

Josh Freese
Dave Grohl
Victor Indrizzo
Bill Rieflin.

And how about John Tempesta?



Just to name a few..

[Falcon]

As for his playing, like him or not he's one of the most respected guys in the business and has a resume second to none.

Second to none?

Josh Freese
Dave Grohl
Victor Indrizzo
Bill Rieflin.

And how about John Tempesta?

Just to name a few..

I think they're all in the same league resume' wise, without question.

Some here (and in Cult circles as well) let their personal feelings about Matt cloud their judgement on just how respected the guy is among his peers.

[AdZ]

Well, at least he can sell leather jackets to the grunge era.

[Falcon]

Well, at least he can sell leather jackets to the grunge era.

That'd be akin to selling flannel shirts to the Sunset Strip era 

[FunkyMonkey]

I would think that they would issue a statment of some kind...some of this press is getting

From MTV

Velvet Revolver Breaking Up? Scott Weiland Seems To Think So, Even If Rest Of Band Isn't Sure

From tmz

Velvet Revolver: Gravedancing?

From Spinner

Velvet Revolver Falling to Pieces?

From Stereogum

Velvet Revolver Breakup Via Bitchy Blog Posts

From All headline news

It looks like it may have been news to the rest of the group. Band mates Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum and Dave Kushner just gasped and looked at each other in utter confusion after Weiland dropped the bombshell and stormed offstage.

[guns_n_motley]

I think they knew....they probably arent gonna say anything because matt already tried and got that rant...probably just finish the dates...and we wont hear anything until Scott does interviews for STP and lets it fly...

[AdZ]

That'd be akin to selling flannel shirts to the Sunset Strip era 

Hey man, keep the rock alive!!!!!!!!!!1!!1!one!121eelven!1111!1!11annoyingdrumsolo!11

[SpiritDave]

Sorry, but while perhaps Matt shouldn't have put the post up, it was very very very very very tame compared to how Scott lashed out.

maybe Matt finally realised that his place is behind the drums, and not in the front, leading the band.

How did you get that from what I said ?  Matt's never tried to 'lead' the band ... he sings backing vocals and drums.  But ... if you wanna be picky ... some might say he IS the leader ... because the drums are the main instrument for which the band works to

he was polite and just updated the fans in his own words.

Who do you think this was aimed at:

Unfortunatly some people in this business don?t realize how great of a life they have.

and

Everybody could see who was unhappy lastnight but all I can say is Let?s keep the Rock alive people!!!!

Yes, Jarmo, you're absolutely right ... it was aimed at Scott ... but hardly lashing out and having a go!  Jeez, there's a distinct difference between insulting and putting someone down (Scott did plenty in his statement), and simply telling the fans that there were some conflicts in the band that night due to a specific member being unhappy.

Sorry, but while perhaps Matt shouldn't have put the post up, it was very very very very very tame compared to how Scott lashed out.

Tame? Possibly.


Do you honestly think Scott reacted that way only because of the blog post?





/jarmo

Oh, no doubt Scott is pissed at stuff behind the scenes ... but ... have the fans seen that?  No.  Therefore, he just made himself look like a fucking idiot to the rest of the world.  He shouldn't be such a fucking moron when it comes to saying shit in public.  He doesn't just say stuff that comes over as a little silly ... he says stuff that comes over as fucking intense!  He needs to take a break and chill out some

[Alan]

"Well, first of all, the state of my family affairs is really none of his business, since he is too immature to have a real relationship, let alone children. So don't attempt to stand in a man's shoes when you haven't walked his path."

matt didn't mention scott's personal life, just said it's hard being away from family.

Secondly, 'keeping rock 'n' roll alive?' I've made many attempts to remain cordial with the members of VR, but mainly, the likes of you. Funny though ? this is your FIRST band, as opposed to being a hired gun. I've been making records (now on my ninth), which have sold over 35 million copies worldwide and have maintained a level of professionalism regardless of how many drugs I've ingested into my system.

couldn't tour for an STP album because he was too fucked.

scott has made 9 records
matt has made 11 (13 if you include live era and greatest hits)

i think that if anyone cares to check, matt's discography would out sell scotts by some way.

I have only cancelled one tour during the entire course of my 16-year run and that was the 'make-up' Australia tour. Now, shall I open that can of worms, Matthew? Release the Kraken? Serve... Volley! You cancelled the Aussie tour in the fall because you went to rehab, but I won't say why? we'll just let Blabbermouth find out for themselves.

only 1 tour cancelled?

wonder what half of europe has to say about that, and the people who wanted to see him on his 12bar blues tour, or the tiny music tour.
aussie tour was in the winter not fall.

"As for our fans ? I will sweat, bruise, and bleed for you. And will continue to do so until the end of this tour. However, you deserve to hear VELVET REVOLVER playing? not certain individuals singing along to get a muddied up sound. God forbid ? could one imagine if I grabbed a guitar and started soloing along with Slash? That would never happen because I know my place. It's a shame? we were a gang. But ego and jealousy can get the better of anyone. I wish the best and plan to annihilate the stage in the last few shows.

ego and jealousy, interesting one.

Slash is the man people go to see, especially in europe where 90% of the people couldn't give a shit about STP.

and scott needs to realise backing vocals are there for a reason, and that is because he can't sing multiple layered lines himself.

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and one last point the band were never "a gang" they have always been split slash, duff, dave & matt on one side of it and scott doing his own thing on the other

[jarmo]

and one last point the band were never "a gang" they have always been split slash, duff, dave & matt on one side of it and scott doing his own thing on the other

Not in public.

Remember how apparently Matt was trying to get Scott a private plane so he could get to Utah?

How Duff helped him to beat the addiction? Just two examples of actions that were used to portray the image of them being a gang.

"Drugs. Multiple overdoses. We share that whole experience. And having a really successful band crash and burn is also something we share. When you survive that stuff, you have a common bond. We've lived the same life. And we have each other's backs. We've said before that it's like a gang. But that's not a clich?. It is what it is.

Revolver magazine June 2004 Issue No.26

Yet for all the good will, launching VELVET REVOLVER hasn't always been easy, especially with the group's frontman publicly going through some personal turmoil of late. "This has been a pretty rough year for me," Scott admits. "The whole divorce thing really pulled me through a keyhole emotionally so I fell backwards on a narcotic slide and had to pay the price. But these guys were there to catch my fall. This has been like a gang.

Velvet Revolver Band Bio



/jarmo

[Alan]

well considering all the lies and stupidity in that rant quotes from scott aren't going to convince me VR were ever a gang.

[jarmo]

well considering all the lies and stupidity in that rant quotes from scott aren't going to convince me VR were ever a gang.

It wasn't meant to convince you.

Just showing you that they have been saying it themselves in the press and, according to Scott, he thought they were one once upon a time.....



/jarmo

[Neemo]

well considering all the lies and stupidity in that rant quotes from scott aren't going to convince me VR were ever a gang.

It wasn't meant to convince you.

Just showing you that they have been saying it themselves in the press and, according to Scott, he thought they were one once upon a time.....



/jarmo

well if anyone knows a junkie's mind its one who has travelled the path. I'm sure that duff and slash understand what he is going through and were of some help to him back then when he was trying to get clean..i'm still not gonna count them out until its official 

[Alan]

well considering all the lies and stupidity in that rant quotes from scott aren't going to convince me VR were ever a gang.

It wasn't meant to convince you.

Just showing you that they have been saying it themselves in the press and, according to Scott, he thought they were one once upon a time.....

/jarmo

fair point, the guy is still an idiot though.

[jarmo]

i'm still not gonna count them out until its official 

Official?

The shit hit the fan, officially....


I hope you have that attitude regarding every other band you listen to......





/jarmo