Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'

[jarmo]

How many of his previous band mates has he kept working with?

Well, beyond Duff and Slash, he's had two separate stints with The Cult 10 years apart.
He continues to work with Billy Morrison in Camp Freddy who was also a Cult bandmate
in the "Beyond Good and Evil" era.  I know Chris Wyse has used his studio on his OWL project
as well.

Sorry, should've been clearer. I meant Slash.

How many former band members did he bring along to the next project?


Slash started working again seriously with Duff and Matt after years.

That's why I don't think he'll bring both of them with him to the next one.





/jarmo

[guns_n_motley]

maybe chemistry isnt the best word...but History for sure....why would they ditch someone they have known/been friends with for 15years....for a lead singer theyve known for a few and have had tension with to begin with??

because they seem to have "tension" with everyone they work with when the three of them are working together for more than a one-off gig.

even in the VH1 show they did (I think it was called something like "Rise of VR"), they said that none of the other singers they tried were a good fit for them and they had issues with Scott from even before the word go.

like I said before ... if you always think it's the other guy who's at fault then it's usually you that's the problem.

It appears to me from scotts post that he is done with VR...and is moving on to his main band STP....I dont see them dumping matt whom is a friend of them..

they picked scott IMO for one reason...he was the most relevant at the time....I dont think its a coincidence that they picked him and he happened to be the biggest at the time....its backfired on them....and I figured at some point Scott would bail and go to STP...it was inevitable

[guns_n_motley]

How many of his previous band mates has he kept working with?

Well, beyond Duff and Slash, he's had two separate stints with The Cult 10 years apart.
He continues to work with Billy Morrison in Camp Freddy who was also a Cult bandmate
in the "Beyond Good and Evil" era.  I know Chris Wyse has used his studio on his OWL project
as well.

Sorry, should've been clearer. I meant Slash.

How many former band members did he bring along to the next project?


Slash started working again seriously with Duff and Matt after years.

That's why I don't think he'll bring both of them with him to the next one.





/jarmo

he very well may not...but Duff seemed very Vocal in his interview that no one band member defines them and that He/slash/Matt will continue to make music together....whether its under the VR moniker or under something different....

those 3 working together is their only chance at success outside of GNR..unless they want to stick to playing clubs

the band Velvet Revolver is dead....but slash/Duff collaborating in the future under a different moniker isnt...

[Genesis]

Wow, I go for a weekend off and look at all the shit that's happened.

[gnr2k6]

im gonna repost what i said on the vr forum after last nights show.....

same setlist as the rest of the tour......scott was a different guy....really and i mean really crowd interactive-going in all the time and holding hands with fans.
they screwed up brownstone and restarted and scotts mike went once or twice.
sorum didnt look happy one bit and everytime scott went near him he looked away.
was nice seeing scott ian  be kill it with the support band pearl.....they were awesome!
i do believe VR  are a spent force and i will not be going to brixton-its just not right.

if anything the guys are playing up to it......they were boo'd last nite for being late and theres definalty stuff going on.
even people with all access passes were not allowed backstage unless escorted-now thats strange.....
dont bank on the brixton shows being "emotional" theyr going through the motions now and its obvious.....theyr doing their set with minimal interaction between songs and gettin off stage as quick as possible....shame really but after all the shit the fans deserve to know whats gone on especially as they brought us into this.

[erose]

im gonna repost what i said on the vr forum after last nights show.....

same setlist as the rest of the tour......scott was a different guy....really and i mean really crowd interactive-going in all the time and holding hands with fans.
they screwed up brownstone and restarted and scotts mike went once or twice.
sorum didnt look happy one bit and everytime scott went near him he looked away.
was nice seeing scott ian  be kill it with the support band pearl.....they were awesome!
i do believe VR  are a spent force and i will not be going to brixton-its just not right.

if anything the guys are playing up to it......they were boo'd last nite for being late and theres definalty stuff going on.
even people with all access passes were not allowed backstage unless escorted-now thats strange.....
dont bank on the brixton shows being "emotional" theyr going through the motions now and its obvious.....theyr doing their set with minimal interaction between songs and gettin off stage as quick as possible....shame really but after all the shit the fans deserve to know whats gone on especially as they brought us into this.

So sorum was pissed huh?! Wonder if all this is mendable at all... With those egos involved i think not...

I hate to say this, but this made my fuckin' easter. All this drama is very entertaining and it's good that it doesn't have anything to do with gn'r... VR just became a notch more interesting and i can't wait for the next review...

Am i an asshole for enjoying this? huh well...

[CheapJon]

interresting stuff gnr2k6.. wonder why scott acted that way towards the crowd, could be 'cuz he knew how things would go, i dunno who to root for since i don't really like any one of the 2

im gonna repost what i said on the vr forum after last nights show.....

same setlist as the rest of the tour......scott was a different guy....really and i mean really crowd interactive-going in all the time and holding hands with fans.
they screwed up brownstone and restarted and scotts mike went once or twice.
sorum didnt look happy one bit and everytime scott went near him he looked away.
was nice seeing scott ian  be kill it with the support band pearl.....they were awesome!
i do believe VR  are a spent force and i will not be going to brixton-its just not right.

if anything the guys are playing up to it......they were boo'd last nite for being late and theres definalty stuff going on.
even people with all access passes were not allowed backstage unless escorted-now thats strange.....
dont bank on the brixton shows being "emotional" theyr going through the motions now and its obvious.....theyr doing their set with minimal interaction between songs and gettin off stage as quick as possible....shame really but after all the shit the fans deserve to know whats gone on especially as they brought us into this.

So sorum was pissed huh?! Wonder if all this is mendable at all... With those egos involved i think not...

I hate to say this, but this made my fuckin' easter. All this drama is very entertaining and it's good that it doesn't have anything to do with gn'r... VR just became a notch more interesting and i can't wait for the next review...

Am i an asshole for enjoying this? huh well...

you know you don't hate to say that

[Fingers]

Never really got the Sorum haters,

Maybe it's his persona/image/comments that people react to?

He sure seems like a two-faced egoist. He acts like everything is fine until there's a camera or journalist present.


He always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the fact that he was "just a replacement" drummer until VR.



I don't see Slash continuing to work with Matt the day VR is done. How many of his previous band mates has he kept working with?

Gilby was in GN'R and then moved onto Snakepit1. But he wasn't in the second version.

So I don't think that Matt will necessarily be in Slash's next project.



Duff seems pretty disinterested in the band so maybe he'll focus on something else too.




/jarmo

I think Gilby wasn't in Snakepit 2 because I remember reading in interviews that he wanted to play lead guitar in a band-I think he would always give the line of "they already have a lead guitarist"-I think he said this about VR and a few other bands also-Duff is starting Loaded back up, and while I liked the first Snakepit album, I though the second one was really bad-I think Slash is a great guitarist, but I think needs a great producer or great surrounding cast to make a great album-not a knock on Slash, I feel the same about Eddie Van Halen (see Van Halen 3, which he co-produced)-it will be interesting to see what they do, I think VR needs a long break-money and reunion tours have a way of bringing egos back together, so who knows about the future

[JDA]

Never really got the Sorum haters,

Maybe it's his persona/image/comments that people react to?

He sure seems like a two-faced egoist. He acts like everything is fine until there's a camera or journalist present.


He always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the fact that he was "just a replacement" drummer until VR.



I don't see Slash continuing to work with Matt the day VR is done. How many of his previous band mates has he kept working with?

Gilby was in GN'R and then moved onto Snakepit1. But he wasn't in the second version.

So I don't think that Matt will necessarily be in Slash's next project.



Duff seems pretty disinterested in the band so maybe he'll focus on something else too.




/jarmo

Jarmo, are you a Weiland fan now? 

[jarmo]

Jarmo, are you a Weiland fan now? 

Not at all.

But when you have two ass clowns in the same band having a go at each other, it doesn't mean you have to take the drummer's side just because he was in your favorite band once.

After all the "we're a gang" acting, in my opinion we're now seeing at least some of the real characters in that band.





/jarmo

[ppbebe]

Has blabbermouth find out why matt had to go to rehab yet?

Weren't the original Australian dates after the cancelled japan tour? it was reported that Velvet Revolver  had visa problems due to the backgrounds of its various members including arrests. and the band said they didn't understand why the authorities wouldn't give them visas then unlike in 2005.

I must admit I'm not a fan of any of them
but I think it would suck if the people you had to take all the blame for acted like they were bigger guys than you.

[jarmo]

Weren't the original Australian dates after the cancelled japan tour? it was reported that Velvet Revolver  had visa problems due to the backgrounds of its various members including arrests. and the band said they didn't understand why the authorities wouldn't give them visas then unlike in 2005.

Yes, Japan was canceled due to visa issues and the Australian tour was re-scheduled for health reasons.

But Weiland was arrested in late November so who knows if that had anything to do with these tours being canceled....




/jarmo

[SpiritDave]

however, when he lashes out like that to another band member eg Scott, or even worse the previous statements he had given in the past towards Axl, to me being an old gnr fan he makes himself looking like a fuckin tart.

And that makes you look like an idiot ... because his blog was FAR from a 'lashing out' statement ...

he was polite and just updated the fans in his own words.

Scott was the twat who threw his fucking toys out of the pram!  I love VR... and I'm sad that it's come to this ... but I guess that's life.

I'll still follow what they all do ... except Scott.  I just don't care about STP.  They bored me then, and they'll probably bore me now.

[ppbebe]

Yes, Japan was canceled due to visa issues and the Australian tour was re-scheduled for health reasons.

But Weiland was arrested in late November so who knows if that had anything to do with these tours being canceled....




/jarmo

so does the process in order go like this?

1 japan tour cancelled

2 scott arrested

3 Australia tour postponed (health reasons /matt in rehab?)

4 rescheduled Australian tour got cancelled (scott in rehab)

[jarmo]

he was polite and just updated the fans in his own words.

Who do you think this was aimed at:

Unfortunatly some people in this business don?t realize how great of a life they have.

and

Everybody could see who was unhappy lastnight but all I can say is Let?s keep the Rock alive people!!!!

so does the process in order go like this?

1 japan tour cancelled

2 scott arrested

3 Australia tour postponed (health reasons /matt in rehab?)

4 rescheduled Australian tour got cancelled (scott in rehab)

Yeah, a quick search gives the following timeline of events:

November 16: Japan canceled
November 21: Scott arrested
November 29: Australia postponed
February 11: Australia canceled




/jarmo

[MeanBone]

i guess the question on everyone's minds right now is what's gonna happen to camp freddy... will Matt and Scott find peace in their heart to do the occasional jam in LA... one can only hope 

[Smoking Guns]

Time for Slash to bust out the CD made with Izzy and get a hot lead singer to singe Izzy's lyrics and put the album out as the 3rd album.

[ppbebe]

so does the process in order go like this?

1 japan tour cancelled

2 scott arrested

3 Australia tour postponed (health reasons /matt in rehab?)

4 rescheduled Australian tour got cancelled (scott in rehab)

Yeah, a quick search gives the following timeline of events:

November 16: Japan canceled
November 21: Scott arrested
November 29: Australia postponed
February 11: Australia canceled




/jarmo

matt might have been arrested too or something sometime before November 16.
but apparently only scot incurred blame for the cancellation. he alone was always blamed.

I have only cancelled one tour during the entire course of my 16-year run and that was the 'make-up' Australia tour. Now, shall I open that can of worms, Matthew? Release the Kraken? Serve... Volley! You cancelled the Aussie tour in the fall because you went to rehab, but I won't say why? we'll just let Blabbermouth find out for themselves.

[lynn1961]

so does the process in order go like this?

1 japan tour cancelled

2 scott arrested

3 Australia tour postponed (health reasons /matt in rehab?)

4 rescheduled Australian tour got cancelled (scott in rehab)

Yeah, a quick search gives the following timeline of events:

November 16: Japan canceled
November 21: Scott arrested
November 29: Australia postponed
February 11: Australia canceled




/jarmo

matt might have been arrested too or something sometime before November 16.
but apparently only scot incurred blame for the cancellation. he alone was always blamed.

I have only cancelled one tour during the entire course of my 16-year run and that was the 'make-up' Australia tour. Now, shall I open that can of worms, Matthew? Release the Kraken? Serve... Volley! You cancelled the Aussie tour in the fall because you went to rehab, but I won't say why? we'll just let Blabbermouth find out for themselves.

See, the thing is, though, some celebrities still like to keep their stints in rehab private.  Of course, having an accident while under the influence of something and ending up with court dates (again) is kind of a public thing.  So, who do you think people are going to blame when a tour is postponed a week after that incident?         

[FunkyMonkey]

Some photos from the Manchester show...Slash, Duff and some of Matt singing...

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=velvet%20revolver&src=quick