Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'

[Bill 213]

The sorum in the video isnt all I am basing my shit on.


The way he acted in that "Rise of VR" show. the mentioned BTM.

"whats with the piano" What a cocksmoke.

I went to confront so and so Yeah right, sure u did.

Ok imagine this

You are a rock drummer , who has just seen Guns N Roses circa 1988-89 playing AFD they ask you to join the band. What the hell do you expect from them? Not a piano and NR , I don't understand what the hell was wrong with that comment. He joined a band that was straight ahead rock n roll , sleazy and dirty of course he didn't expect a piano based song.  Scott is the no show at greets , he has canceled tours due to his addiction , he is the problem not Matt.

Okay be honest here, do you REALLY think that's how it went down.  You really think Matt just up and said, "Whoa, I just saw these guys play and they're so hardcore...they're really rock 'n roll....I'm going to join this band immediately."  You don't think he listened to what material they already had knocked out from UYI sessions? You don't think the band told him as he was coming in......"hey man, not to shock you, but we're going to bring a piano out and trumpeteers and back up vocalists...gonna step it up a notch?"  Then Matt is like, "hey man, I know I've only been here 20 minutes, but this is crazy....what's with the piano, don't make me confront you!" If Matt didn't like the piano and shit, he had more than ample enough time to walk away from the situation before even touching a stick to the skin.
But NO...Matt's little hands were shaking from all that money he was going to pocket from that piano driven music.  He went along for the ride as any hired gun does and lived the lifestyle that he was finally afforded.  Then when the time came for him to piss off, he gets bitter and now all of a sudden he's boo-hooing about it.  Go back and watch the Making of the Videos and see how excited he was back then.  Bit of an attitude change since he's no longer in the band. 
And wow, no showing a "Meet and Greet" that charges fans outrages prices to stand in front of the band for a few seconds.  How un-capitalistic and rock n roll like of Scott.    Those Meet and Greets are the biggest crock of shit out there today.  For all we know, Scott could totally be against them for all the right reasons.

[D]

Agree 100 percent Bill

SCott could be kind of protesting those sorts of things cause they are a rip.

[killingvector]

Hmmmm, a conflict between a lead singer and a drummer. If difference cannot be mended and the band has a will to survive, perhaps there is only one option. Should be pretty obvious; VR is not hanging onto Keith Moon or John Bonham here.

[Ali]

Hmmmm, a conflict between a lead singer and a drummer. If difference cannot be mended and the band has a will to survive, perhaps there is only one option. Should be pretty obvious; VR is not hanging onto Keith Moon or John Bonham here.

But, hanging onto the lead singer is not an option if the singer does not want to be hung onto.  This could be it for VR regardless because of the reemergence of STP.

Ali

[Falcon]

Hmmmm, a conflict between a lead singer and a drummer. If difference cannot be mended and the band has a will to survive, perhaps there is only one option. Should be pretty obvious; VR is not hanging onto Keith Moon or John Bonham here.

But, hanging onto the lead singer is not an option if the singer does not want to be hung onto.  This could be it for VR regardless because of the reemergence of STP.

Ali

With Ali on this one, Weiland wants out and has STP waiting in the wings. 

He's clearly the one who holds all the cards.

On top of that, I don't see any scenario where Matt would be "let go", that just will not happen.

[Ali]

Hmmmm, a conflict between a lead singer and a drummer. If difference cannot be mended and the band has a will to survive, perhaps there is only one option. Should be pretty obvious; VR is not hanging onto Keith Moon or John Bonham here.

But, hanging onto the lead singer is not an option if the singer does not want to be hung onto.  This could be it for VR regardless because of the reemergence of STP.

Ali

With Ali on this one, Weiland wants out and has STP waiting in the wings. 

He's clearly the one who holds all the cards.

On top of that, I don't see any scenario where Matt would be "let go", that just will not happen.

Yes sir.  I agree with that last point as well.  Matt will not be let go.  He was part of the foundation of this band.  You take away part of the foundation, and the entire house of VR will come crumbling down.

Unfortunate as it is, it may be time to consider other options at the frontman slot.

Ali

[killingvector]

Hmmmm, a conflict between a lead singer and a drummer. If difference cannot be mended and the band has a will to survive, perhaps there is only one option. Should be pretty obvious; VR is not hanging onto Keith Moon or John Bonham here.

But, hanging onto the lead singer is not an option if the singer does not want to be hung onto.  This could be it for VR regardless because of the reemergence of STP.

Ali

If that is truly the case, then I too agree. Scotty's gotta go.

But if sometime in the future, the question of VR comes up again, perhaps the eviction of Sorum needs to be introduced as a carrot to get Scott back. I have a hard time believing that Sorum is a vital component. I just don't hear it in these albums.

[Freya]

You know what's going to be interesting?  When STP do their tour, I'm sure they will be doing some press, Weiland will be asked about what went down with VR nonstop.  Knowing his lack of self-control, I'm awaiting some more juicy quotes.  Also, if he is still screwed on drugs, which is likely, the DeLeo's aren't going to deal well with that for very long either. 

[CheapJon]

damn it, why haven't sorum responded yet, i guess some reasonable person has talked to him
 

[Smokey]

But if sometime in the future, the question of VR comes up again, perhaps the eviction of Sorum needs to be introduced as a carrot to get Scott back. I have a hard time believing that Sorum is a vital component. I just don't hear it in these albums.

Sorum isnt goin anywhere, he'll be right by slash and duff for a while yet wheather it be VR or another project because he has that chemistry with them that made VR in the first place not Scott...

[Falcon]

But if sometime in the future, the question of VR comes up again, perhaps the eviction of Sorum needs to be introduced as a carrot to get Scott back. I have a hard time believing that Sorum is a vital component. I just don't hear it in these albums.

It'll never happen, period.

Sorum's initial call to Slash and Duff for the Randy Castillo benefit was the catalyst for them playing together again, without that there would have been no VR to speak of.

As for his playing, like him or not he's one of the most respected guys in the business and has a resume second to none.

Never really got the Sorum haters, he came to GNR at a time when they needed it and seems to have made ammends with Axl since then with their visit in NYC a couple years back.  Opinions
are split on him with Cult fans as well, some see him as a mercenary and others credit him with
getting Ian and Billy back together in '99.

[Smokey]

Exactly, that just sums it up...

[GypsySoul]

But if sometime in the future, the question of VR comes up again, perhaps the eviction of Sorum needs to be introduced as a carrot to get Scott back. I have a hard time believing that Sorum is a vital component. I just don't hear it in these albums.

Sorum isnt goin anywhere, he'll be right by slash and duff for a while yet wheather it be VR or another project because he has that chemistry with them that made VR in the first place not Scott...

Chemistry?  maybe Slash/Duff/Matt need to look in the mirror ... if you always think it's the other guy's fault, then it's usually you that's the problem.

[mrlee]

Matt updated his website but really nothing about "Scott's statement"...

03.22.08

Hey friends,
After the last couple of days, and all the craziness Had a really cool surprise, Robert Plant came into our dressing room and we had a nice sit down with him for a least an hour. Its so weird, even though here I am playing in bands for all these years and meeting so many famous musicians and people. This was really a highlight. What a great guy. Have met him before when I was with the Cult. He came to a show at Manchester Apollo. As well as last time with VR there. Tonight was just cool and more intimate I guess We just shot the shit. A few road stories and he told me he wrote Black Country Woman about a girl that was from the area we were playing in called Wolverhampton. Wow, trivia from the man himself. His son was in the opening band and Dad was playing roadie for the night. The band is called Aura and they were young and rockin. Very blues based alot like Zep. Also on the bill is Scott Ians band with his girl Pearl, another kid of rockstar Meatloaf. Awesome singer and great performer. Cool to hang with Scott , good friend and cool dude. So pretty cool night all in all. Got more good news from LA after getting on the bus on the way back to Birmingham. Mike Inez from Alice in Chains went in my new clothing store and bought one of my leather jackets. Like I said Keepin the Rock alive and very well.
I?ll keep u posted my friends, Matt

Photos: http://www.mattsorum.tv/channel/2008/03/22/hangin-backstage-with-mr-robert-plant/

home, woooo LOL.

I guess since hes gotta work with scott a few more shows hes avoiding postin anymore shit about it till later?

[jarmo]

Never really got the Sorum haters,

Maybe it's his persona/image/comments that people react to?

He sure seems like a two-faced egoist. He acts like everything is fine until there's a camera or journalist present.


He always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the fact that he was "just a replacement" drummer until VR.



I don't see Slash continuing to work with Matt the day VR is done. How many of his previous band mates has he kept working with?

Gilby was in GN'R and then moved onto Snakepit1. But he wasn't in the second version.

So I don't think that Matt will necessarily be in Slash's next project.



Duff seems pretty disinterested in the band so maybe he'll focus on something else too.




/jarmo

[guns_n_motley]

But if sometime in the future, the question of VR comes up again, perhaps the eviction of Sorum needs to be introduced as a carrot to get Scott back. I have a hard time believing that Sorum is a vital component. I just don't hear it in these albums.

Sorum isnt goin anywhere, he'll be right by slash and duff for a while yet wheather it be VR or another project because he has that chemistry with them that made VR in the first place not Scott...

Chemistry?  maybe Slash/Duff/Matt need to look in the mirror ... if you always think it's the other guy's fault, then it's usually you that's the problem.

maybe chemistry isnt the best word...but History for sure....why would they ditch someone they have known/been friends with for 15years....for a lead singer theyve known for a few and have had tension with to begin with??

[RTK]

The whole reason Slash Duff and Matt really wanted to make Velvet Revolver was because they rekindled their old "chemistry", which I think they now might have with Dave too. There's no guarantee that the band is done, nor is there any that the other guys hate each other, in fact, they all seem to be on good terms with each other, its really Scott thats the problem (LSD rears its head once more).

If the VR is done, they can easily find a new lead singer and even change the band name to not upset some fans and free them of having to play some of the songs.

[GypsySoul]

maybe chemistry isnt the best word...but History for sure....why would they ditch someone they have known/been friends with for 15years....for a lead singer theyve known for a few and have had tension with to begin with??

because they seem to have "tension" with everyone they work with when the three of them are working together for more than a one-off gig.

even in the VH1 show they did (I think it was called something like "Rise of VR"), they said that none of the other singers they tried were a good fit for them and they had issues with Scott from even before the word go.

like I said before ... if you always think it's the other guy who's at fault then it's usually you that's the problem.

[makane]

So, does anyone else think Scott is... right? Atleast for this once.
I kinda feel sad for him for not thinking before saying, but he seems to be pretty truthful. I hope this is the end of VR, cause how could they ever write a decent album after controversy like this, they sure can't be in the same room ever again.

Hopefully Duff & Slash will continue their course together, and choose their future bandmates more wisely. These "supergroups" never seem to work, they should just team-up with some talented less known people.

[Falcon]

Maybe it's his persona/image/comments that people react to?

Maybe so, that stuff's just never bothered me.

He sure seems like a two-faced egoist. He acts like everything is fine until there's a camera or journalist present.

I've never really seen that, or maybe just not paid enough attention to let it affect my opinion on him.

He always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the fact that he was "just a replacement" drummer until VR.

Could be, he has mentioned always "being the guy replacing the guy" more than once
and he seemed to take real pride in the fact he was with VR from the get go

How many of his previous band mates has he kept working with?

Well, beyond Duff and Slash, he's had two separate stints with The Cult 10 years apart.
He continues to work with Billy Morrison in Camp Freddy who was also a Cult bandmate
in the "Beyond Good and Evil" era.  I know Chris Wyse has used his studio on his OWL project
as well.

So I don't think that Matt will necessarily be in Slash's next project.

I'd expect if Slash's next project includes Duff, Matt will be a part as well.  If not, who knows.
He's not gonna have any trouble finding work, thats for sure.

Duff seems pretty disinterested in the band so maybe he'll focus on something else too.

I get that same feeling, he just seems numb to the drama and in need of a break.