Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'

[cfcsfc]

Not really.

I'm only interested in seeing if these guys can actually tell the truth.


Matt making comments about cancellations, Scott saying one was due to Matt being in rehab, Duff covering that up by saying it was exhaustion.


Why should I believe that this is the first time these band members have covered things up?

It's all part of their act.






/jarmo

You can't have a go at them for 'not telling the truth' about rehab. Alot of people wouldn't want something personal, such as rehab, public knowladge. As far as critisizing Duff for 'covering up' is a joke. It's not up to him to disclose personaly information about his band mates like that, with out their wishes. He took the high road for their privacies sake. All part of their act? What is, wanting privacy?
You act like they owe you sonething, that you're entitled to their personal information or something.

[D]

Audioslave sucked, and Chris left the band because of the money. The brothers Deleo need Scott and vice-versa, STP was a great band, mainly their 3 last albums.

When I said VR was over I meant the name, but of course that I'm hoping for the guys to get a new singer, change the name, as keeping with the name would be a mistake, like the mistake that is GNR, and with another name and singer they can still rock!

Thank You

Finally someone who shares my view.

Audioslave were horrible, VR destroys them in every single way

Chris Cornell has like one vocal melody and is probably the only guy who writes worse lyrics than Weiland.


VR are a great band, STP are amazing. If u are in Europe and have never heard of them, u should. Especially if u can get past the Weiland hate and just listen without prejudice. they are an awesome Rock Band. My Favorite from that era.

Check out these hits:

"Plush:
"Interstate Love Song"
"Lady Picture Show"
"Trippin on A Hole In A Paper Heart"
"Sex Type Thing"
" Creep"
"Dead and Bloated"
"Sour Girl"
"Big Bang Baby"

and my personal favorite and one of the greatest songs from the 90's

Big Empty



The new song they put on the greatest hits "All In The Suit That You Wear" is awesome as well.

U have a torrent engine, USE IT!!



Matt is nowhere near the rock star level Scott is. thats ridiculous.

I went to watch VR to see Duff and Slash and honestly, I couldnt stop watching SCott the whole time.

Here is the guitar god that changed my life and made me pick up a guitar but I barely watched him for more than a few seconds cause of Scott.


As for the Jarmo/VR thing, He checked them out but I don't personally ever remember him being a huge fan or anything. I think he was curious to see what it was all gonna be like. This is a GNR site so Jarmo is or was a fan of Slash/Duff at some point. So he checked out what they were doing and gave it a chance and didn't really like it.

So its not like he was a huge supporter that all of a sudden changed his mind due to events that happened.


Still, VR were a success for what it was worth. I dont think they would've had any with the other options.

[Feel_The_Burn]

Audioslave sucked, and Chris left the band because of the money. The brothers Deleo need Scott and vice-versa, STP was a great band, mainly their 3 last albums.

When I said VR was over I meant the name, but of course that I'm hoping for the guys to get a new singer, change the name, as keeping with the name would be a mistake, like the mistake that is GNR, and with another name and singer they can still rock!

Thank You

Finally someone who shares my view.

Audioslave were horrible, VR destroys them in every single way

Chris Cornell has like one vocal melody and is probably the only guy who writes worse lyrics than Weiland.


VR are a great band, STP are amazing. If u are in Europe and have never heard of them, u should. Especially if u can get past the Weiland hate and just listen without prejudice. they are an awesome Rock Band. My Favorite from that era.

Check out these hits:

"Plush:
"Interstate Love Song"
"Lady Picture Show"
"Trippin on A Hole In A Paper Heart"
"Sex Type Thing"
" Creep"
"Dead and Bloated"
"Sour Girl"
"Big Bang Baby"

and my personal favorite and one of the greatest songs from the 90's

Big Empty



The new song they put on the greatest hits "All In The Suit That You Wear" is awesome as well.

U have a torrent engine, USE IT!!



Matt is nowhere near the rock star level Scott is. thats ridiculous.

I went to watch VR to see Duff and Slash and honestly, I couldnt stop watching SCott the whole time.

Here is the guitar god that changed my life and made me pick up a guitar but I barely watched him for more than a few seconds cause of Scott.

As I said over doing it , Scott was nothing more than a frontman of a successful 90's band who had some hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltc5EsuyBh4 Scott will NEVER be able to touch Cornell's vocal power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmxaFf-lpZY 5:30 , jesus mother of god no way can he do that!

Scott needs to check his facts , or maybe he was so doped out he forget that "
 STP canceled most of their 1996-1997 tour in support of their third release, Tiny Music... Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop causing the album to fall flat quickly on the charts."  after his probation sentence for buying coke.

Also when touring for 12 bar blues he got caught buying Heroin thus ending his short "tour"

[D]

Feel The Burn

This is where we differ.

I dont honestly care how much "range" or technical ability someone has.

There are tons of guitar players who can play faster and have way more "technical Ability" than Slash but can't hold Slash's pick in all the areas of guitar playing that matter.

Same with vocalist.
I dont care how "Powerful" or high a guy can sing.  If we were going on that criteria then everyone should be the biggest Myles Kennedy fan on the planet *singer of Alter Bridge* Judging by your criteria he'd be a better singer than Jon Bon Jovi or Eddie Vedder and we know that isn't so.


Singing isn't about how powerful or high u can sing.

I think Anthony Kiedis is an amazing vocalist and I have a higher range than he does. But for me it isnt about a range or any other measurable quality.



Chris has a more powerful voice than Scott, but I think Scott is a better songwriter, has way more melody and sings a lot more hooks and has more emotion and "IT" quality than Cornell.

[jarmo]

You can't have a go at them for 'not telling the truth' about rehab. Alot of people wouldn't want something personal, such as rehab, public knowladge. As far as critisizing Duff for 'covering up' is a joke. It's not up to him to disclose personaly information about his band mates like that, with out their wishes. He took the high road for their privacies sake. All part of their act? What is, wanting privacy?
You act like they owe you sonething, that you're entitled to their personal information or something.

Great, another one who thinks it's personal. 


Fine, keep your rehab stints to yourself, but remember that if you start attacking others for it, things might come out.

People in glass houses....


This band has always done the same. They go to rehab and act like everything is fine, then basically say "oh by the way, we were in rehab. Hahaha".

Like it's some kind of joke or no big deal.




Those of you wanting to discuss Weiland's vocal range compared to other singers, do so in the right section. 




/jarmo

[Feel_The_Burn]

Feel The Burn

This is where we differ.

I dont honestly care how much "range" or technical ability someone has.

There are tons of guitar players who can play faster and have way more "technical Ability" than Slash but can't hold Slash's pick in all the areas of guitar playing that matter.

Same with vocalist.
I dont care how "Powerful" or high a guy can sing.  If we were going on that criteria then everyone should be the biggest Myles Kennedy fan on the planet *singer of Alter Bridge*


Singing isn't about high powerful or high u can sing.

I think Anthony Kiedis is an amazing vocalist and I have a higher range than he does. But for me it isnt about a range or any other measurable quality.



Chris has a more powerful voice than Scott, but I think Scott is a better songwriter, has way more melody and sings a lot more hooks and has more emotion and "IT" quality than Cornell.

.... Scott wasn't some type of amazing lyricist if re listen to temple of the dog , tell me that isn't raw emotion. One of the best vocal displays I've ever seen but anyways to each is their own.

[D]

For me, I dont understand how bands can have these huge blowups and issues. I think Scott tolerated Matt cause he had to and now he has STP back he doesn't have to anymore. So he is going out with a bang.

I figured in this day and age, everyone would be doing the Motley Crue route. Everyone has their own bus, dressing room, they only interact onstage and can go to their own areas afterwards.

How much do Scott and Matt really have to interact?

Why not put Matt's dressing room on the opposite side of Scott's?

Personally, and I dont know Matt sorum but just from interviews and hearing him speak and seeing his actions, I can totally understand where he could rub someone the wrong way.

I remember his completely cheesy scenes in "Fall To Pieces"

U got this amazing emotional video with Duff and Scott etc and then u see Sorum double kissing two chicks and it just looks ridiculous.

[Feel_The_Burn]

For me, I dont understand how bands can have these huge blowups and issues.

I figured in this day and age, everyone would be doing the Motley Crue route. Everyone has their own bus, dressing room, they only interact onstage and can go to their own areas afterwards.

How much do Scott and Matt really have to interact?

Why not put Matt's dressing room on the opposite side of Scott's?

Personally, and I dont know Matt sorum but just from interviews and hearing him speak and seeing his actions, I can totally understand where he could rub someone the wrong way.

I remember his completely cheesy scenes in "Fall To Pieces"

U got this amazing emotional video with Duff and Scott etc and then u see Sorum double kissing two chicks and it just looks ridiculous.

So lets base our opinions of people off music videos? GENIUS!

Anyways if you think a band can function in the "motley crue" fashion you are very wrong. You have to interact to be a band , you function as a unit not as 5 individuals. Dressings rooms , tour buses etc do not matter how can you write a record with someone you despise? You can't.

[guns_n_motley]

For me, I dont understand how bands can have these huge blowups and issues.

I figured in this day and age, everyone would be doing the Motley Crue route. Everyone has their own bus, dressing room, they only interact onstage and can go to their own areas afterwards.

How much do Scott and Matt really have to interact?

Why not put Matt's dressing room on the opposite side of Scott's?

Personally, and I dont know Matt sorum but just from interviews and hearing him speak and seeing his actions, I can totally understand where he could rub someone the wrong way.

I remember his completely cheesy scenes in "Fall To Pieces"

U got this amazing emotional video with Duff and Scott etc and then u see Sorum double kissing two chicks and it just looks ridiculous.

So lets base our opinions of people off music videos? GENIUS!

Anyways if you think a band can function in the "motley crue" fashion you are very wrong. You have to interact to be a band , you function as a unit not as 5 individuals. Dressings rooms , tour buses etc do not matter how can you write a record with someone you despise? You can't.

drummers dont write records!!   and frankly, the "motley crue" way is how MOST bands who can afford it tour nowadays...Van Halen is doing that as well..

doesnt mean that they arent interacting during the day...because they do they just arent in eachothers face 24/7 on a bus together...

[SpiritDave]

I remember his completely cheesy scenes in "Fall To Pieces"

U got this amazing emotional video with Duff and Scott etc and then u see Sorum double kissing two chicks and it just looks ridiculous.

Wow ... if you didn't get the joke in that, you really need to step back and think about it some more

[D]

The sorum in the video isnt all I am basing my shit on.


The way he acted in that "Rise of VR" show. the mentioned BTM.

"whats with the piano" What a cocksmoke.

I went to confront so and so Yeah right, sure u did.

[Feel_The_Burn]

The sorum in the video isnt all I am basing my shit on.


The way he acted in that "Rise of VR" show. the mentioned BTM.

"whats with the piano" What a cocksmoke.

I went to confront so and so Yeah right, sure u did.

Ok imagine this

You are a rock drummer , who has just seen Guns N Roses circa 1988-89 playing AFD they ask you to join the band. What the hell do you expect from them? Not a piano and NR , I don't understand what the hell was wrong with that comment. He joined a band that was straight ahead rock n roll , sleazy and dirty of course he didn't expect a piano based song.  Scott is the no show at greets , he has canceled tours due to his addiction , he is the problem not Matt.

[guns_n_motley]

cant we agree that both scott/Matt can act like Douches sometimes??

Im not a huge fan of Matt but I dont see what he did wrong here...he put out a damage control statement and then Scott flips out at him..

[MikeD]

So I'm not about to go through 10 pages of bickering, did anyone say why Matt went to rehab - I figured it was a sex thing, probably jacking too much - but anyway, to address an earlier Jarmo post . . .


Hell ya, brother, I AM Waiting for the next Matt project.

And my next beer.

Heh.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[sexkitten]

They're talking about this right now on camp freddy radio 103.1

The theme of the show tonight is "Battle of the Punk Bands...U.S. vs. U.K"...but callers are calling in and asking about the incident.

[Smoking Guns]

Matt is a much more solid reliable drummer than Scott is a singer.  I like Scott.  I think he was a good frontman in STP.  But in VR he was very contrived.  He was never himself. 

[gnr2k6]

i havnt heard dave or billy mention the incident?
but matt may be calling in.....

[overmatik]

Matt is a much more solid reliable drummer than Scott is a singer.  I like Scott.  I think he was a good frontman in STP.  But in VR he was very contrived.  He was never himself. 

I've always felt that too, it seems like they were never comfortable together. The same old story, Scott was the right man on the wrong place! And to be honest to the truth, Scott indeed was responsible for them cancelling the STP '96 tour.

[FunkyMonkey]

Matt updated his website but really nothing about "Scott's statement"...

03.22.08

Hey friends,
After the last couple of days, and all the craziness Had a really cool surprise, Robert Plant came into our dressing room and we had a nice sit down with him for a least an hour. Its so weird, even though here I am playing in bands for all these years and meeting so many famous musicians and people. This was really a highlight. What a great guy. Have met him before when I was with the Cult. He came to a show at Manchester Apollo. As well as last time with VR there. Tonight was just cool and more intimate I guess We just shot the shit. A few road stories and he told me he wrote Black Country Woman about a girl that was from the area we were playing in called Wolverhampton. Wow, trivia from the man himself. His son was in the opening band and Dad was playing roadie for the night. The band is called Aura and they were young and rockin. Very blues based alot like Zep. Also on the bill is Scott Ians band with his girl Pearl, another kid of rockstar Meatloaf. Awesome singer and great performer. Cool to hang with Scott , good friend and cool dude. So pretty cool night all in all. Got more good news from LA after getting on the bus on the way back to Birmingham. Mike Inez from Alice in Chains went in my new clothing store and bought one of my leather jackets. Like I said Keepin the Rock alive and very well.
I?ll keep u posted my friends, Matt

Photos: http://www.mattsorum.tv/channel/2008/03/22/hangin-backstage-with-mr-robert-plant/

[Wheres Izzy]

Hopefully Matt won't respond to what Scott said. I admit I like reading dirt like that as much as the next guy but if they're gonna pull the plug on VR I say just do it and try to save some face.