Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'

[Limulus]

sorry if this is a little off-topic but WDR ROCKPALAST will broadcast (parts of) the upcoming VR/March 29th 2008 -Cologne, Germany-show on May 2nd 2008.
IF this ever happens it might be very interesting to have one of the probably last VR shows ever -well, for now at least- being documented in high quality video.

source (official ROCKPALAST website):

Donnerstag auf
Freitag, 02.05.2008
0.25 - 3.25 Uhr
im WDR Fernsehen  Rockpalast
22. ROCKNACHT
mit VELVET REVOLVER
GOOD CHARLOTTE
JOLLY GOODS
(Palladium K?ln am 29.03.08)

http://www.rockpalast.de/sendetermine/?jahr=WDR

[Grouse]

i think its a valid question...i would love to know what Slash would have to say about this....considering he is the main man behind VR....how does he feel that his frontman basically decided to call it quits and blame the drummer for it...

If he would've said it like that than I wouldn't have called him out on it 'cause it's a valid question, Sadly he didn't....

It seems like you're backing Scott, which would be a complete 180 from you.

Nah he just hates Matt more 

There is no VR without Scott Weiland. I love Slash and Duff, don't get me wrong, but Scott is a BIG reason these guys are back in the limelight.

In the states maybe but over here? don't think so...

If STP were to come here they won't even be able to play the venues vr are playing right now...

[jarmo]

It seems like you're backing Scott, which would be a complete 180 from you.

Not really.

I'm only interested in seeing if these guys can actually tell the truth.


Matt making comments about cancellations, Scott saying one was due to Matt being in rehab, Duff covering that up by saying it was exhaustion.


Why should I believe that this is the first time these band members have covered things up?

It's all part of their act.






/jarmo

[A Private Eye]

Am I one of the few that REALLY hopes this band can work things out??

No, I hope they do, or at least that VR can continue without Weiland, there's a kickass album in these guys, perhaps it needs a different singer to bring it out.

There is no VR without Scott Weiland. I love Slash and Duff, don't get me wrong, but Scott is a BIG reason these guys are back in the limelight.

He really isn't, Slash is the reason this band's ever been in the limelight. He's the biggest name in the band by far, they could have hired any singer they wanted when VR started and the buzz would have been the same. After that who knows, the songs would presumably have been different and from there the level of success would have changed.

[Bill 213]

Am I one of the few that REALLY hopes this band can work things out??

No, I hope they do, or at least that VR can continue without Weiland, there's a kickass album in these guys, perhaps it needs a different singer to bring it out.

There is no VR without Scott Weiland. I love Slash and Duff, don't get me wrong, but Scott is a BIG reason these guys are back in the limelight.

He really isn't, Slash is the reason this band's ever been in the limelight. He's the biggest name in the band by far, they could have hired any singer they wanted when VR started and the buzz would have been the same. After that who knows, the songs would presumably have been different and from there the level of success would have changed.

Righty-o......they could have been as big as Slash's Snakepit 2000!!  Or perhaps even bigger....maybe big enough to sell-out the House of Blues in Dallas, TX...which Snakepit couldn't do.

Once again...people are totally clueless.  Weiland is a big part of VR's success.  It certainly wasn't Slash's extremely boring guitar licks on Contraband that brought me to the table.  VR was only successful because of the supergroup tag they were labeled with and the little buzz they got by whoring themselves out to VH1.  That's it.....they were nothing more than another Audioslave.  Sub-par music by big named acts.

[Grouse]

Righty-o......they could have been as big as Slash's Snakepit 2000!!  Or perhaps even bigger....maybe big enough to sell-out the House of Blues in Dallas, TX...which Snakepit couldn't do.

Once again...people are totally clueless.  Weiland is a big part of VR's success.  It certainly wasn't Slash's extremely boring guitar licks on Contraband that brought me to the table.  VR was only successful because of the supergroup tag they were labeled with and the little buzz they got by whoring themselves out to VH1.  That's it.....they were nothing more than another Audioslave.  Sub-par music by big named acts.

When talking about the states you're probably right but when you're talking about most european countries it wouldn't have made a difference if scott were the singer or anyone else...

So it would seem that you might be the clueless one...

[madagas]

Bill, they weren't as good as Audioslave....

[Limulus]

STP are nothing here in europe, i actually had to google for "Scott Weiland" when he was announced to be the singer of 3 Ex-GN'R members Slash, Duff and Matt in the "new supergoup" Velvet Revolver. and i have seen the old band live and have been around all the time when all the grunge thing happened.

the GN'R vma'02 performance, the tour cancellation 2002 and silence after that somehow pushed a lot interest in what the other old members could bring on the table when they decided to put a new band together....and that also was their main success in selling Contraband albums. the music itself and the bad libertad sales simply say that the music couldnt mess with the huge hype being created when VR formed.

[oldleadbelly]

Bill, they weren't as good as Audioslave....

I'm not very high on VR's musical output, but Audioslave sucked some hairy nuts as well.

[oldleadbelly]

STP are nothing here in europe, i actually had to google for "Scott Weiland" when he was announced to be the singer of 3 Ex-GN'R members Slash, Duff and Matt in the "new supergoup" Velvet Revolver. and i have seen the old band live and have been around all the time when all the grunge thing happened.

the GN'R vma'02 performance, the tour cancellation 2002 and silence after that somehow pushed a lot interest in what the other old members could bring on the table when they decided to put a new band together....and that also was their main success in selling Contraband albums. the music itself and the bad libertad sales simply say that the music couldnt mess with the huge hype being created when VR formed.

I think what's unfortunate is that STP gets slagged hard b/c Weiland isn't very likable.  The Deleos deserve much more respect than they get, especially in Europe, but could never tour and build a fanbase there due to Weiland's inability to stay off the junk.  Robert Deleo is an amazing song writer and bassist.

[axl in lafayette]

why not take up this shit in Private instead of so publically?!

[overmatik]

Audioslave sucked, and Chris left the band because of the money. The brothers Deleo need Scott and vice-versa, STP was a great band, mainly their 3 last albums.

When I said VR was over I meant the name, but of course that I'm hoping for the guys to get a new singer, change the name, as keeping with the name would be a mistake, like the mistake that is GNR, and with another name and singer they can still rock!

[Smoking Guns]

Get Cornell now.  Please.

No more of this shit.  Classic Fucked up Scott with VR.........  I filmed this by the way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N05ldbQ2l38

[spaghetti_incident]

It seems like you're backing Scott, which would be a complete 180 from you.

Not really.

I'm only interested in seeing if these guys can actually tell the truth.


Matt making comments about cancellations, Scott saying one was due to Matt being in rehab, Duff covering that up by saying it was exhaustion.


Why should I believe that this is the first time these band members have covered things up?

It's all part of their act.






/jarmo

Pot - Kettle - Black    

Some not to far time ago, I do remember you attending VR gigs in London and were very excited about their tours and would defend them and rocked out to their concerts.  Now just because words are mixed between people who are actually in the band ( and once again, you come across as this time , a band member in VR).  I mean come on.  Where do you get this?  Who are you to decide if they are covering up things or who's telling the truth.  It's between the members of VR.  You pull this same shit when talking about GNR and once again, you in this thread, have to act like Axl's "protector" or spokesperson and you are not.  D happens to be a long time poster on this board who ruffles your reality and you fault him for it.  You are the only one to be faulted here. 

[lakersaregreat]

It seems like you're backing Scott, which would be a complete 180 from you.

Not really.

I'm only interested in seeing if these guys can actually tell the truth.


Matt making comments about cancellations, Scott saying one was due to Matt being in rehab, Duff covering that up by saying it was exhaustion.


Why should I believe that this is the first time these band members have covered things up?

It's all part of their act.






/jarmo

Pot - Kettle - Black    

Some not to far time ago, I do remember you attending VR gigs in London and were very excited about their tours and would defend them and rocked out to their concerts.  Now just because words are mixed between people who are actually in the band ( and once again, you come across as this time , a band member in VR).  I mean come on.  Where do you get this?  Who are you to decide if they are covering up things or who's telling the truth.  It's between the members of VR.  You pull this same shit when talking about GNR and once again, you in this thread, have to act like Axl's "protector" or spokesperson and you are not.  D happens to be a long time poster on this board who ruffles your reality and you fault him for it.  You are the only one to be faulted here. 

i agree, totally. i have noticed he does this in all of these threads. first hes in gnr, then hes in vr. amazing talent!

[jarmo]

Pot - Kettle - Black     

Some not to far time ago, I do remember you attending VR gigs in London and were very excited about their tours and would defend them and rocked out to their concerts.  Now just because words are mixed between people who are actually in the band ( and once again, you come across as this time , a band member in VR).  I mean come on.  Where do you get this?  Who are you to decide if they are covering up things or who's telling the truth.  It's between the members of VR.  You pull this same shit when talking about GNR and once again, you in this thread, have to act like Axl's "protector" or spokesperson and you are not.  D happens to be a long time poster on this board who ruffles your reality and you fault him for it.  You are the only one to be faulted here. 

Look who's back attacking me instead of sticking to the topic.



Well, I've got news for you: You're fucking banned.


Everything in your post I've addressed in the past, but for you it's personal.

You've attacked me for the last time.


The fact that this person registered in December 2006, almost two years after those VR shows I attended , and "remembers me attending VR shows" speaks volumes about her/him. It's just another person using an account to try to discredit and attack me for personal reasons.





This is for "lakersaregreat": http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=32648.msg1054804#msg1054804



/jarmo

[bazgnr]

Hey, look!  A story about what this thread is supposed to be talking about!   

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/03/21/velvet-revolver-on-the-verge-of-breaking-up/

Unfortunately, I can't really say any of this surprises me.  There has been noticeable (and self-admitted) Matt-Scott tension almost since the band got started; it's just too bad this had to happen so publicly.  One can only speculate on all that has happened behind closed doors to lead to such personal attacks through the media.  To me, VR was never able to surpass the legacies of member's original bands, and - while I wished them the best - was always disappointed in the end results.  Just an opinion, of course, and I'm sure it's premature of me to be speaking of VR in the past tense....we'll see how this plays out.

[gnr2k6]

the band were on fire 2nite on all acounts from what im told.

[jarmo]

Slash is the big star in the band in the worldwide picture.

Scott isn't as big outside the US as he's there.


But what people forget is that a lot of the media is based in the US. So by having him in the band a lot of people got to read/hear about VR that maybe wouldn't have otherwise.

Plus there were the arrests and rehab etc. that the media obviously loved writing about which caused more publicity for the band.


It's like if Pete Doherty started a new band with some other guys. 




/jarmo

[Feel_The_Burn]

Slash is the big star in the band in the worldwide picture.

Scott isn't as big outside the US as he's there.


But what people forget is that a lot of the media is based in the US. So by having him in the band a lot of people got to read/hear about VR that maybe wouldn't have otherwise.

Plus there were the arrests and rehab etc. that the media obviously loved writing about which caused more publicity for the band.


It's like if Pete Doherty started a new band with some other guys. 




/jarmo

Yeah Slash and Duff starting a new band period is going to generate buzz but with Scott it gave a other wise non-interested audience a shot at the band. I think Scott was a decent front man , honestly I feel as if people are over-hyping STP. They where never that BIG as of a band , I'd take PJ , AIC , Soundgarden etc over STP. A couple songs where decent and thats about it. I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out but at the last show(s??) there are some pictures of Scott without his wedding ring possibly meaning martial problems coupled with band issues frustrating him to a point where he bursts. Either way I think he over-reacted Scott may have been a good frontman but he was certainly the weakest link of the band,