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Topic: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone' (Read 64247 times)
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Re: Weiland Fires Back At Sorum: 'Ego And Jealousy Can Get The Better Of Anyone'
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We don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes....
Matt hasn't admitted anything about being in rehab last year that caused the Australian tour to be canceled.
Yeah, well, I'm not surprised about any of them being in rehab at any point in time. I think it was a stupid mistake of the band when they first got together to talk about their sobriety. Since then, every member of the band, excluding Dave I think, has been to rehab again!
It's strange though, about Matt's situation, Weiland alluded to something but wouldn't say what it was. What more could there be to Sorum going to rehab?
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We don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes....
Matt hasn't admitted anything about being in rehab last year that caused the Australian tour to be canceled.
Yeah, well, I'm not surprised about any of them being in rehab at any point in time. I think it was a stupid mistake of the band when they first got together to talk about their sobriety. Since then, every member of the band, excluding Dave I think, has been to rehab again!
It's strange though, about Matt's situation, Weiland alluded to something but wouldn't say what it was. What more could there be to Sorum going to rehab?
maybe he's a sex addict?!
i dunno the whole situation is messed up but it looked inevitable for the last while.
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U gotta try to see Scott's side though
when u are a recovering drug addict and are married with children, Im sure u dont want to have to look at the tempation groupie/drug lifestyle every single night backstage due to Matt.
I think Scott is tired fo being blamed for everything that goes wrong so he was just pointing out Matt's failures and faults.
Scott is a great songwriter,singer and lyricist. Not too many bands in the US can boast the amount of hits he has helped write.
Matt is an OK drummer. He hasn't ever really done anything that has blown me away. just pretty standard basic stuff really.
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Scott seems to hit below the belt when it comes to things-Matt was kind of speaking in general terms in his statement, is Scott offended by Matt saying right now some people might miss their famalies? I think it's a case of 2 guys who do not get along and it is all coming to a head in an ugly way-obviously they (Matt and Scott) have not gotten along in a while if you read comments in articles in the last few years
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Quote from: D on March 22, 2008, 03:33:31 PM
U gotta try to see Scott's side though
when u are a recovering drug addict and are married with children, Im sure u dont want to have to look at the tempation groupie/drug lifestyle every single night backstage due to Matt.
I think Scott is tired fo being blamed for everything that goes wrong so he was just pointing out Matt's failures and faults.
Scott is a great songwriter,singer and lyricist. Not too many bands in the US can boast the amount of hits he has helped write.
Matt is an OK drummer. He hasn't ever really done anything that has blown me away. just pretty standard basic stuff really.
Matt has nothing to do with Scott's addiction-if the temptation of using is too much for Scott to handle, he should not be on the road
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Quote from: D on March 22, 2008, 03:33:31 PM
when u are a recovering drug addict and are married with children, Im sure u dont want to have to look at the tempation groupie/drug lifestyle every single night backstage due to Matt.
Actions speak louder than words. I don't think he is recovering; I think he is trying to cover his ass. I could be wrong, but I don't think so ... we'll see.
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im surprised so many are defending Scott here....Matt sorum comes off as a douche at times, and he annoyed me on that "rise of VR" show... but his Blog really seemed tame...it was "damage control" then Scott takes offence and just rails on him...Scotts ditching the band it sounds,for what he feels is "bigger and better" maybe its due to matt sorum, maybe due to the poor reception of the album/tour and the fact that STP is reuniting, who knows...
you can tell he feels hes bigger than VR "ive sold 35million albums, 9 cds" while i agree that sorums career really has just been being a "hired gun" besides VR..I think Weiland is overestimating his own relevance...STP as much as I like them were the Poison/Warrant of the Grunge era...the 2nd tier band kind of copying the others...
if Pearl jam, AIC, Nirvana were never hits I doubt we would be hearing about STP....and if it wasnt for VR he would be known as just a junkie..
in the end its 2 bitchy junkies fighting it out
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Its just Matt commented on shit he has no clue about. What does he know about being on the road and missing family and kids?
he doesnt so like Scott said, he has no clue.
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Quote from: guns_n_motley on March 22, 2008, 03:41:35 PM
in the end its 2 bitchy junkies fighting it out
Isn't Matt's monkey alcohol? Is he also a junkie?
Quote from: D on March 22, 2008, 03:43:53 PM
Its just Matt commented on shit he has no clue about.
Maybe he knows more than anyone thinks in relation to this tour.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on March 22, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: guns_n_motley on March 22, 2008, 03:41:35 PM
in the end its 2 bitchy junkies fighting it out
Isn't Matt's monkey alcohol? Is he also a junkie?
Quote from: D on March 22, 2008, 03:43:53 PM
Its just Matt commented on shit he has no clue about.
Maybe he knows more than anyone thinks in relation to this tour.
idk, I always figured Matts drug of choice was Coke...but thats just me..
Its been inevitable that VR is over IMO especially since they announced the STP reunion...Weiland thinks hes going onto bigger and better things and is ready to kick the rest of the guys to the curb....
will be interesting to see the chemistry of these last few shows...I expect them to keep matt/scott FAR apart and their chemestry to be cold....they probably have to finish them because they are contracted to..
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Quote from: guns_n_motley on March 22, 2008, 03:54:16 PM
Its been inevitable that VR is over IMO especially since they announced the STP reunion...Weiland thinks hes going onto bigger and better things and is ready to kick the rest of the guys to the curb....
STP is bigger and better things. They had much more success than VR ever had, much more good songs.
I think the fighting between Matt and Scott is hilarious tho.
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Quote from: D on March 22, 2008, 03:43:53 PM
Its just Matt commented on shit he has no clue about. What does he know about being on the road and missing family and kids?
he doesnt so like Scott said, he has no clue.
Missing family and kids is a simple use of words he used to describe people you can love .... I'm sure Matt has people he loves and misses just as much as Scott does. And I think Matt was 100% in the right in terms of being pretty polite about the situation. Telling your band , via an audience you're playing a gig to, that you're leaving the band, is a fucking ignorant thing to do.
Matt may not have started GnR, and he may not have started The Cult, but he's a professional player, who for the last 20 years, has been consistently keeping time for some of the best rock bands in the world. He's an excellent drummer who puts work before anything else.
One other thing ... the groupie lifestyle... so fucking what? If Scott can't stomach seeing Matt with two chicks on his arm, he should not be there. It's part and parcel ... just because Scott married some woman, doesn't mean Matt has to be Mr squeeky clean. He doesn't need to be! Fuck that...
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Quote from: Eric Draven on March 22, 2008, 09:40:00 AM
In any case, I would love to have a ticket for tonight's show-should be interesting to say the least
Oh, you must give us a detailed report as soon as you get home tonight!
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We haven't had this much action on the site in awhile!
I think Scott and Matt are about equal rockstars...but if I had to pick sides, I'm def. going with Matt...he's super laid-back and he's way into his fans...where scott is too cool for school. I mean, who shows up for meet and greets and who doesn't?
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So how many shows are left for VR?
Duff excuse that its exhaustion is causing problems doesn't make sense, they haven't toured nearly as much as they did for Contraband
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Quote from: holtzmn73 on March 22, 2008, 04:43:36 PM
So how many shows are left for VR?
Duff excuse that its exhaustion is causing problems doesn't make sense, they haven't toured nearly as much as they did for Contraband
He was covering up the real reason(s).
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Quote from: jarmo on March 22, 2008, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: holtzmn73 on March 22, 2008, 04:43:36 PM
So how many shows are left for VR?
Duff excuse that its exhaustion is causing problems doesn't make sense, they haven't toured nearly as much as they did for Contraband
He was covering up the real reason(s).
The TRUTH Rock On!!!!!!
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It seems like you're backing Scott, which would be a complete 180 from you.
I think that Duff quote is irrelevant, but I'm sure Scott will mention something at the show tonight.
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Quote from: holtzmn73 on March 22, 2008, 04:43:36 PM
So how many shows are left for VR?
Duff excuse that its exhaustion is causing problems doesn't make sense, they haven't toured nearly as much as they did for Contraband
I hope not many. I'm actually just happy that Scott can get away from all the "nutbag" fans of the whole GNR/VR universe. The people who have crucified him from day one for stepping into an already created universe and treading on the water. Scott is far too experienced in this business to be talked about like he "never accomplished anything" or was nothing more than a one hit wonder. The dude has his problems, like everyone else. Slash, Duff, Matt have all had/still having issues with rehab/drugs so no one can truly cast stones. But really, STP's reunion will not "fail" It would have happened sooner if the farce that was VR never went down.
To those who claim STP were never anything.......out of their five studio albums Core went 8x platinum, Purple went 6x, Tiny Music went 2x and No.4 went 1. Shangri-la-di-da went gold. The music was far better than what Alice in Chains was doing and the direction they were going. As far as labeling them as grunge...that's just ridiculous. Core was the only album that really exhibited grunge sound and even then only a few songs at best on it. Just like Pearl Jam they were more alternative than anything, especially on the later albums. And you can take that from someone who grew up during the late 80's/early 90's rock and grunge era who was actually around to listen to the music.
To those who say Scott went overboard....I'm sure he felt that was the step he need to take. After the Slash debaucle at a certain unmentionable's house (which Weiland was only defending him on the rant against unmentionable and it later turns out to be true), Sorum's other subtle hints and the numerous little things that have popped up over the past few months, I'm glad he was able to get what he need off his chest. Matt Sorum is a douche and maybe someday a grand piano will fall on him and the irony could bestow itself.
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Am I one of the few that REALLY hopes this band can work things out??
I have to actually agree with Scott on the whole Matt Sorum trying to sing thing.
There is no VR without Scott Weiland. I love Slash and Duff, don't get me wrong, but Scott is a BIG reason these guys are back in the limelight.
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I wouldnt read too much into who says what and who says what with 100% truth.
Its pretty transparent with both of these press releases, that the 2 of them have been at loggerheads for a while and now their arguments are spilling over into juvenile public attacks on each other, both determined to make themselves look superior to the other.
If I was in the band I wouldnt let either one of these clowns near a keyboard.
It looks like the writing is on the wall anyway, but I hope the other guys stay together and put something else together.
Incidently I seem to remember way back in the early days of VR matt seemed to be causing tension with his free spirited, groupie and substance loving ways, when the other guys had families and were recovering from addictions.
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