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« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2008, 10:30:32 AM »

As for the people denouncing Scott's talent-you're all fucking idiots. Just because you arent fond of him doesn't mean he's a talentless ponce.

Ridiculous insult.
I don't like Scott and to me he is not talented. How can you attack someone because of his/her opinion?

VR could have achieved much more with a better singer.
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« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2008, 10:35:51 AM »


Ridiculous insult.
I don't like Scott and to me he is not talented. How can you attack someone because of his/her opinion?

VR could have achieved much more with a better singer.

Let's put it like this. I personally can't stand Michael Jackson, but that doesn't mean the guy has no talent.
I wasn't attacking people's opinions of him, but saying 'he isn't talented' (regardless of preference) is a ridiculous statement to make.
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« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2008, 10:38:09 AM »

Fucking childish response by Scott, even if I do understand his frustration. I say let him go back to STP is that's where his heart lies. The guys I really feel sorry for are Slash, Duff and Dave-Slash and Duff for being in a shitty situation like this once again, and Dave because he doesn't really have anything to fall back on as far as I know.

As for the people denouncing Scott's talent-you're all fucking idiots. Just because you arent fond of him doesn't mean he's a talentless ponce. Lets leave that for Pete Doherty. Scott's past success speaks for itself.


hey! Pete Doherty is a very talented man...in many ways.  Smiley
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« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2008, 10:41:07 AM »

two little bitches cat fighting over at a site called Blabbermouth-oh the humanity. Slash and Duff need to can these two assholes and call up Mr Stradlin...form a real band. Let Izzy sing. beer
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« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2008, 10:46:51 AM »

Let's put it like this. I personally can't stand Michael Jackson, but that doesn't mean the guy has no talent.
I wasn't attacking people's opinions of him, but saying 'he isn't talented' (regardless of preference) is a ridiculous statement to make.

I understand you, but still aknowledging someone's talent must have at least a minimum of liking too.
And that's something I am missing as far as Scott is concerned.
I never liked STP and tried to like VR, while Contraband was ok for me, Libertad was really weak.
And I always saw Scott being the one making it nearly impossible to listen to VR.
That's why I can say that I think he is not talented.
But that's not a statement that should make other people think the same way too, it is just a statement to express my opinion.
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« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2008, 10:49:40 AM »

Scott's vocal range is very limited. The range he does have, he does a lot with, but other than that he has lost a lot with me.  Lyrics?  Not great either.  Greatest moment?  Interstate love song.
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« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2008, 11:11:58 AM »

I'm still puzzled by what Scott is mad about-Matt singing too loudly on the backing vocals? Scott has admitted suffering from B-Polar depression and is a revovering (?) addict-I'm not putting him down for those things, but he seems to be having a rough year-people suffering from Bi-Polar have extreme cases of feeling very good and very depressed-the last STP show he did he was alomst involved in a fistfight with Dean DeLeo and had to be seperated-and I'm not sure what Matt said about his family that pissed him off-oh well-I will catch them again on the reunion tour when STP fizzes out again-his behavior reminds me of Eddie Van Halen-we hate Roth, Sammy is a brother, no Gary is a brother, we hate Roth and Sammy, Sammy is a brother again, out Sammy, Dave is a brother, Eddie hits rehab-the drama
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« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2008, 11:40:16 AM »

I think Weiland's just a very difficult person period. I don't think that it would matter what band he was in he eventually would be fighting with the other members. People with Scott's problems never think that they're the wrong or that they might be the problem. They think that it's everyone else.
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« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2008, 11:55:08 AM »

I'm still puzzled by what Scott is mad about-Matt singing too loudly on the backing vocals? Scott has admitted suffering from B-Polar depression and is a revovering (?) addict-I'm not putting him down for those things, but he seems to be having a rough year-people suffering from Bi-Polar have extreme cases of feeling very good and very depressed-the last STP show he did he was alomst involved in a fistfight with Dean DeLeo and had to be seperated-and I'm not sure what Matt said about his family that pissed him off-oh well-I will catch them again on the reunion tour when STP fizzes out again-his behavior reminds me of Eddie Van Halen-we hate Roth, Sammy is a brother, no Gary is a brother, we hate Roth and Sammy, Sammy is a brother again, out Sammy, Dave is a brother, Eddie hits rehab-the drama

Scott has been quoted that he refuses medication.  Kinda like some other singer that we all know of.  I remember when they mentioned how Rick Rubin only liked 1 or 2 songs off VRs new material from Libertad.  They refused to listen to him and went with Brendon Obrien.

VR can get a great new singer, get a producer that will push them and make a great 3rd album.  From my understanding the deal they signed was a 3 album deal.  VR needs a new singer and a kick in the ass and they'll be fine.  The DeLeos are song writing machines and I hope STP makes a new record.

Meanwhile, I'll kick back and enjoy the drama and see what takes place.

Scott is better with STP.  VR can revive their career by finding anther singer. 
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« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2008, 12:10:11 PM »

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VR can get a great new singer, get a producer that will push them and make a great 3rd album.  From my understanding the deal they signed was a 3 album deal.  VR needs a new singer and a kick in the ass and they'll be fine.

They will not carry on the name without Scott. They may continue to make music together in another capacity, but it would most certainly be under another name. Even if they legally could carry on with the name I just don't see it, as I don't think that is something Slash/Duff would be comfortable with.
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« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2008, 12:12:36 PM »

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VR can get a great new singer, get a producer that will push them and make a great 3rd album.  From my understanding the deal they signed was a 3 album deal.  VR needs a new singer and a kick in the ass and they'll be fine.

They will not carry on the name without Scott. They may continue to make music together in another capacity, but it would most certainly be under another name. Even if they legally could carry on with the name I just don't see it, as I don't think that is something Slash/Duff would be comfortable with.

its best to leave the baggage of VR behind and start with a new name
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« Reply #111 on: March 22, 2008, 12:28:20 PM »

I think it may be a while-Duff might be touring with Loaded this summer if I'm not mistaken, although at the time he said VR was his priority-I would like to hear a Slash solo album he's been talking about with different signers-if they start a new band, although other members of the band have been in rehab before, I'm hoping for a singer who has no history of drug problems, depression, consults psychics, is involved with other bands, or wants to make the greatest record of all time, in other words, shut up and sing
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« Reply #112 on: March 22, 2008, 01:01:59 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKdcVR1uTd0

heres video of scott saying it
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« Reply #113 on: March 22, 2008, 01:32:17 PM »

Man, Scott is too tetchy, isn't he? He can't take any offense that goes blasting all over the place! rant

And now, what are the chances of this band surviving, just zero!
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« Reply #114 on: March 22, 2008, 02:13:57 PM »

Now, shall I open that can of worms, Matthew? Release the Kraken? Serve... Volley! You cancelled the Aussie tour in the fall because you went to rehab, but I won't say why? we'll just let Blabbermouth find out for themselves.

VELVET REVOLVER Bassist Says 'Exhaustion' Contributed To Australian Tour Postponement - Dec. 7, 2007

When pressed about the nature of illness believed to be affecting two band members, McKagan agreed it was partly due to an exhaustive international tour schedule this year.

"(Exhaustion) has a lot to do with it, it really does. There are a couple of issues health-wise that have been coming to a head and everything will be rectified. These guys are resilient.''

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« Reply #115 on: March 22, 2008, 02:17:55 PM »

From the other hand i wonder, as Mr. Sorum has been very critical in the past towards some things, where his career would have been if he wasnt a member of guns really in the first place?  At least Weiland has had a band before or something, maybe Matt should have been a little bit more respectful on different things through the years except if he thinks he is Lombardo or something.

exactly.
i think this outburst was just triggered by sorum's comments, but in reality was boiling under for quite some time now....sorum was anything but decent towards scott...and after reading about the way he acted towards axl in slash's book...this guy is a real tosser....

i don't really like scott, and never really got obsessed with VR....but i do think that he did try....perhaps not his best...but he did try....no one can blame him for that...he stuck up for his bandmates when he had to...he kept his cool each and every time he was harassed by gnr related questions....which was often....too often....

by doing this and pulling out of the band, he did the right thing...for himself...and for them...

I feel the most for Duff and Dave...those two are literally just innocent bystanders in this whole mess...

I think it's hilarious that the band is falling apart. I wonder if Slash will take any of the blame this time around? Or is he just gonna blame it on everyone else like he did with Guns?

And how does this contribute to the discussion exactly? other than obviously trying to elicit a reaction from vr fans... Roll Eyes

i think its a valid question...i would love to know what Slash would have to say about this....considering he is the main man behind VR....how does he feel that his frontman basically decided to call it quits and blame the drummer for it...
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« Reply #116 on: March 22, 2008, 02:59:28 PM »

Bottom line , Scott is a douche.
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« Reply #117 on: March 22, 2008, 03:02:19 PM »

Everyone seems to be ignoring the elephant in the room.

Something obviously happened before that show for Scott to go off like he did.

Scott escalates the situation by his rant; bringing up past rehabs is important in the context of what happened at/before the show.

It looks like to me he got called out for using(by Matt?) before the show. His actions are typical of an addict trying to justify/minimize their behavior when busted.
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« Reply #118 on: March 22, 2008, 03:02:46 PM »

Weiland is such a douchebag.  And most likely still on drugs.  Sorum is a douche too, but it doesn't look like he was trying to aggravate the situation.  Scott just looks so immature.  

An STP reunion is not going to set the world on fire.  It could last a year or two and then Weiland's career is over.
To me, it seems like Slash/Duff were good enough for Weiland when he needed something, and now he discards them and spits on them on his way out to boot.  Asshole.  

Slash is the only one with real star power and in good graces with the industry to continue a successful career.  He needs to make his own "Santana" album, and never mention Weiland again.  This "last tour" is obviously a contractual obligation and that's it.  
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« Reply #119 on: March 22, 2008, 03:07:27 PM »

Weiland is such a douchebag.  And most likely still on drugs.  Sorum is a douche too, but it doesn't look like he was trying to aggravate the situation. 

We don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes....

Matt hasn't admitted anything about being in rehab last year that caused the Australian tour to be canceled.



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