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Quote from: freedom78 on March 20, 2008, 01:30:44 PM
What DOES need banned are all the new types of ammo, armor piercing, etc.
They have been banned since the 80s. I think that it is fucked that it is illegal to use anything but fully copper jacketed bullets in warfare, yet cops use the most destructive hollow points that they can find.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on March 20, 2008, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: freedom78 on March 20, 2008, 01:30:44 PM
What DOES need banned are all the new types of ammo, armor piercing, etc.
They have been banned since the 80s. I think that it is fucked that it is illegal to use anything but fully copper jacketed bullets in warfare, yet cops use the most destructive hollow points that they can find.
Are they banned? I'd be lying if I said I knew a lot about guns/ammo, etc.
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They were marketed under the name "Black Talon". I think that it was the Brady Bill that made them inaccessible to everyone but law enforcement.
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They were marketed under the name "Black Talon". I think that it was the Brady Bill that made them inaccessible to everyone but law enforcement.
I always wonder, then, how this stuff ends up on the streets. Does someone just steal it from a warehouse or what?
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I don't think you see armor piercing(teflon) rounds on the street very often. I haven't heard a case where they have been used in years. I would think that they do show up on occasion, but it is extremely rare.
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More guns means more dead republicans.
I'm all for more guns
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Not for weapons really, yet I got 3 rifles and 2 shotguns myself I use regurarly when hunting.
I don't see nothing wrong with having them for hunting or home-defence as long as wearing in public is illegal.
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I don't think you see armor piercing(teflon) rounds on the street very often. I haven't heard a case where they have been used in years. I would think that they do show up on occasion, but it is extremely rare.
I just realized that most of my thinking on such rounds was based on one of the Lethal Weapon movies.
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I believe things would get very scary in this country real quickly if the government tried to take away guns from American citizens.
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^while I do not always agree with you, let us hope.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on March 21, 2008, 07:30:42 AM
^while I do not always agree with you, let us hope.
I didn't picture you as a pro-gun guy. But that's because most are pro-gun in that hunting/self-defense vein. You're just paranoid enough to want them in that "last defense against tyranny" vein, aren't you?
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on March 21, 2008, 07:30:42 AM
^while I do not always agree with you, let us hope.
I didn't picture you as a pro-gun guy. But that's because most are pro-gun in that hunting/self-defense vein. You're just paranoid enough to want them in that "last defense against tyranny" vein, aren't you?
That was the reasoning for the law in the first place, so I don't see what's paranoid about it.
An armed populace is the greatest deterrent against tyranny, that is fact.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on March 21, 2008, 07:30:42 AM
^while I do not always agree with you, let us hope.
I didn't picture you as a pro-gun guy. But that's because most are pro-gun in that hunting/self-defense vein. You're just paranoid enough to want them in that "last defense against tyranny" vein, aren't you?
That was the reasoning for the law in the first place, so I don't see what's paranoid about it.
An armed populace is the greatest deterrent against tyranny, that is fact.
I agree. Hell, I have a pretty serious libertarian streak in me. But that's not why MOST people want guns.
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The problem is the comunity, not really the weapons.
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The argument before the Supreme Court is very interesting.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/07-290.pdf
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on March 21, 2008, 07:30:42 AM
^while I do not always agree with you, let us hope.
I didn't picture you as a pro-gun guy. But that's because most are pro-gun in that hunting/self-defense vein. You're just paranoid enough to want them in that "last defense against tyranny" vein, aren't you?
Yep, that is pretty much it. I abhor hunting for sport; there is nothing sporting about ambushing a defenseless animal. I am sure there are people out there that have to hunt to supplement their diet, but they are few and far in between.
I don't own any firearms. I just hate the thought of loosing any more of my freedoms.
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Y'all know that the government has planes and tanks and shit like that
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Y'all know that the government has planes and tanks and shit like that
Yep, and they are working wonders in Iraq.
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Quote from: TAP on March 22, 2008, 03:41:16 PM
Y'all know that the government has planes and tanks and shit like that
Yep, and they are working wonders in Iraq.
Yeah well, an armed populace might be a defence against tyranny, but did anyone think what happens if the government surges...huh....answer me that
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