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« on: March 08, 2008, 08:32:34 AM »

Would u guys be mad or angry if the new band
came on stage in 2008 with only new songs.   

no wttj, nov rain, Paradise city, patience nightrain.

an all new setlist full of new songs by the new band alone. no more covers (perhaps Kohd as the only one or Sailing)

would  U love it, would it sel?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 08:41:49 AM »

If I were there, no, I wouldn't be happy.
Sure, I'd love to hear more new stuff, but with seeing GnR you have to have GnR classics.
But I would like it to be a ChiDem heavy set. Like when you see a band touring for their new album the set is generally based around the new album with classics thrown in.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 08:42:06 AM »

I'd want to hear the old stuff also. But I could really be into a show with more new stuff than old stuff.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2008, 08:54:17 AM »

an idea that i've had would be that they play just the new songs (i dunno how many, let's say 14 songs) then for the encore they do wttj, scom and ends it all with pc.. probably not gonna happen but i'd love it.. i'd love any setlist but tis idea could work when the music is released..


i'd miss songs like iso and otgm but if the band would like to leave that in the past and only play those at special nights i'd be ok with it Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2008, 09:04:28 AM »

I would love to have the album played in it's entirety...especially if the songs have some form of connecting theme. I think at a minimum you still need Jungle, SCOM, and Paradise City at EVERY show. Roger Waters played the entire Dark Side of the Moon album in the middle of one of his recent tours. Started off with the hits, then played DSOTM, then finished with hits. Awesome show. beer
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2008, 09:09:55 AM »

I like this idea ^^^

Still, I'd like to see a few other Illusion songs in the mix...while keeping it CD centric. Something like this.

Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the Jungle
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry
CD ROCKER
CD MID-TEMPO
The Blues
Civil War
Dead Horse
CD ROCKER
CD MID-TEMPO
There Was a Time
Sweet Child O'Mine
Sympathy for the Devil
CD ROCKER
Estranged
Nightrain

ENCORE:
Patience
CD EPIC SONG (ala NR, Coma, Estranged)
Paradise City
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2008, 09:14:43 AM »

I like this idea ^^^

Still, I'd like to see a few other Illusion songs in the mix...while keeping it CD centric. Something like this.

Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the Jungle
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry
CD ROCKER
CD MID-TEMPO
The Blues
Civil War
Dead Horse
CD ROCKER
CD MID-TEMPO
There Was a Time
Sweet Child O'Mine
Sympathy for the Devil
CD ROCKER
Estranged
Nightrain

ENCORE:
Patience
CD EPIC SONG (ala NR, Coma, Estranged)
Paradise City



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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2008, 09:57:50 AM »

I would like to see them playing the entire CD during the next tour (just like Iron Maiden did with AMOLAD in 2006) plus couple of old songs
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2008, 10:09:07 AM »

Really going to depend on the cd if all the songs are good and they go together.  My Chemical Romance's last cd was suited to be played all the way through in concert but when Neil Young does that I have no interest in seeing his show.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2008, 10:19:53 AM »

Yep I would like that. New band, new album, new songs  ok
Why not!

They can indeed maybe add some older songs in the setlist, but then songs they rarely or never play live
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 12:00:54 AM »

At this point, I think the old material is tired. They've played the stuff for over 7 years and I'm ready for the new stuff. We should be thankful for anything, but this band needs to drop the bulk of the old stuff...
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 12:04:52 AM »

At least then i could see a show that i didn't "see in Toledo"
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 11:12:30 AM »

We can only hear the guys sound and specialties on like 5 to 6 songs at some shows.

It's time to let them show what they can do fully with the CD setlist.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 11:53:12 AM »

Jungle, Paradise City, and Sweet Child pretty much need to be played at every show lol. Throw in a few other old tunes (but mix it up. Don't play the same ones all the time.) and have the rest of the set dominated with songs from the new album. Hell, they could even throw in stuff like Rhiad in here and threre.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 12:20:33 PM »

5 or 6 old songs should be enough. Like F*ck Fear said, just keep Paradise City, Sweet Child O' Mine and Welcome To The Jungle in the setlist and add two or three random old songs.
But I hope GN'R will first release the album before they tour again.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2008, 12:28:22 PM »

I don't agree they should always keep WTTJ, SCOM and PC. Jungle is a great opener because of the scream and awesome energy of the song - maybe there is an equally energetic song on CD, and a great closer like Paradise. If so why not mix it up a bit? And then another night open with Perfect Crime or Right Next Door to Hell?

As to the original question, the band is gnr so they should play songs from all the albums - but if it is a 'Chinese Democracy' tour then I'd love to see them feature new songs. And preferably new new songs - even CD and The Blues are getting a bit old now!

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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 12:37:24 PM »

I think that depends....

If CD is 2 or more cd's (which i HOPE it will be to make up for the long long long long long long delay) then i wouldn't be upset at all.

If, however, it turns out to be 1 cd filled halfway w/ the leaks, then yes, i would be mildly dissapointed. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2008, 01:54:43 PM »

Would u guys be mad or angry if the new band
came on stage in 2008 with only new songs.   

no wttj, nov rain, Paradise city, patience nightrain.

an all new setlist full of new songs by the new band alone. no more covers (perhaps Kohd as the only one or Sailing)

would  U love it, would it sel?

I'd go mad.  imagine the wttj intro shifting to the chinese democracy intro. those chinese whispers and the outburst of scream. It'd be my ultimate dream set.

The set has been great.
the new songs fit in well with the classics and then they gradually grew outstanding.
the course wasn't forced but natural.

I'd love to have a Chinese full course when it's ready. I don't think it will be in 2008.
because I'm guessing single disc albums will be released one after the another, to lostroses disappointment.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2008, 03:03:33 PM »

Personally I think it should be standard practice for artists to launch their new album by playing the whole thing live at at least one special show for hardcore fans. That way there's at least one live version of each song so nobody is disappointed.

As for New Guns going on tour like that, Iron Maiden were successful in playing the whole of their last album in full on their 'A Matter Of Life And Death' tour before doing some oldies at the end.

Axl wouldn't do this because, as he ranted last year, he doesn't play a single fucking note for us downloading fuckers at home. The vast majority of people at New Guns shows for the forseeable future will be there to hear classics.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2008, 03:12:17 PM »

i wouldn't care one way or another. I would love to just go a G'n'R concertbut i think i'd like it better if i heard more of the new stuff at least 75% of the show should be new material any way imo

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