Slash Interview - Time Out Dubai

[Smoking Guns]

Wow, nail meets head.  Boom, end of conversation.

Uh, not yet.

I never implied Nirvana "killed" GNR, re read if necessary.

Just stated the below in response to this:

There are more revelent bands from he 80's  than the grunge era.

That's just goofy.

NO band from the 80's had the historical impact, socialogical significance, industry changing impact or relevence than Nirvana did.

In my estimation, (and anyone with a lick of musical history acumen) it's absolutely inarguable.

I stand by every word without question.

I believe musical history does and will maintain reflecting this opinion as well.

Most of that is true except for the historical impact.  That will be limited because musically Guns N Roses is on a much higher level and 50 years from now, the music will matter more and there will be many more changes to music history by then and other huge socialogical changes.  Not saying they were not important, but with time their lack of musical substance will be overshadowed by legendary bands like GNR.

[fuckin crazy]

The Beastie Boys were considered Grunge and the joke of all time The Ramones (which kick ass but are by no means a fuckin' grunge band but were categorized as such).   

By who? Not by anyone I knew. Yeah, I agree that The Beastie Boys were a joke(what a lot of the teenies listened to), but classifying the Ramones as grunge is like calling Emo grunge. It is the revisionists that use those arguments in a fallacious attempt to lend credibility.to their genre.

[Ali]

Wow, nail meets head.  Boom, end of conversation.

Uh, not yet.

I never implied Nirvana "killed" GNR, re read if necessary.

Just stated the below in response to this:

There are more revelent bands from he 80's  than the grunge era.

That's just goofy.

NO band from the 80's had the historical impact, socialogical significance, industry changing impact or relevence than Nirvana did.

In my estimation, (and anyone with a lick of musical history acumen) it's absolutely inarguable.

I stand by every word without question.

I believe musical history does and will maintain reflecting this opinion as well.

Falcon, with all due respect, I think what Smoking Guns and I were discussing was the notion that some people, not you, have that Nirvana "killed" GN'R.  The sales of the respective Greatest Hits records provide an inarguable piece of evidence that in no way, shape or form did Nirvana, or anyone else, kill GN'R. 

While Appetite did not change the industry like Nevermind helped, and I emphasize the word "helped", to do, the historical impact point is debatable to me because Appetite still sells thousands of copies a week and was celebrated by multiple major publications 20 years after its release.

Ali

[chriskon72]

The Beastie Boys were considered Grunge and the joke of all time The Ramones (which kick ass but are by no means a fuckin' grunge band but were categorized as such).   

By who? Not by anyone I knew. Yeah, I agree that The Beastie Boys were a joke(what a lot of the teenies listened to), but classifying the Ramones as grunge is like calling Emo grunge. It is the revisionists that use those arguments in a fallacious attempt to lend credibility.to their genre.

By the general public, Record stores, BS media. etc. If I remember correctly I think The Ramones were on the first Lollapolooza tour and I heard some youngens talken on the subway about this great alternative band The Ramones. I agree 100% with your post crazy

[Smoking Guns]

The Beastie Boys were considered Grunge and the joke of all time The Ramones (which kick ass but are by no means a fuckin' grunge band but were categorized as such).   

By who? Not by anyone I knew. Yeah, I agree that The Beastie Boys were a joke(what a lot of the teenies listened to), but classifying the Ramones as grunge is like calling Emo grunge. It is the revisionists that use those arguments in a fallacious attempt to lend credibility.to their genre.

By the general public, Record stores, BS media. etc. If I remember correctly I think The Ramones were on the first Lollapolooza tour and I some youngens talkien on the subway about this great alternative band The Ramones. I agree 100% with your post crazy

You guys are both right!  Remember how early grunge always listed Punk bands as their influence.  That must be what brought the Ramones to Lollapalooza.

[madagas]

I'd jump in here but I don't feel like roughing up Falcon any more than I already have in the past!  

[Falcon]

I'd jump in here but I don't feel like roughing up Falcon any more than I already have in the past!  

That's OK madman, I gotta give the pupils a history lesson every now and again ya know.