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[bodine]

By the way, who actually CONFIRMED that the record was turned in? as in DONE? Mastered and everything?

lol  . . .  we can't say.   

Well whoever it is, is a liar. The record has NOT been turned in. This is 100% confirmed with Interscope. Its been played more than once and loved, but not turned in.

u know someone that works at a record store or something that heard that ?

[ppbebe]

By the way, who actually CONFIRMED that the record was turned in? as in DONE? Mastered and everything?

lol  . . .  we can't say.   

Well whoever it is, is a liar. The record has NOT been turned in. This is 100% confirmed with Interscope. Its been played more than once and loved, but not turned in.

confirmed when and by whom? source it or you're another fake insider.

[John J. Rambo]

fake insider huh? Hmmm.  Believe me or not, i don't care. But the truth is Interscope loves the record, they've heard it numerous times, thinks Axl is a genius (still), but its NOT mastered or turned in. Some band members even think its been turned in. Like...Richard Fortus. That's all folks.

[bodine]

fake insider huh? Hmmm.  Believe me or not, i don't care. But the truth is Interscope loves the record, they've heard it numerous times, thinks Axl is a genius (still), but its NOT mastered or turned in. Some band members even think its been turned in. Like...Richard Fortus. That's all folks.

See people like you are why they feel the need to delete posts! 

[fuckin crazy]

Hmmm.  Believe me or not,

Hmmm. Believe an anonymous, new, poster on a message board, or multiple credible sources ... That is not a hard decision. 

[lakersaregreat]

fake insider huh? Hmmm.  Believe me or not, i don't care. But the truth is Interscope loves the record, they've heard it numerous times, thinks Axl is a genius (still), but its NOT mastered or turned in. Some band members even think its been turned in. Like...Richard Fortus. That's all folks.

I believe you. You are correct.

[John J. Rambo]

Hmmm.  Believe me or not,

Hmmm. Believe an anonymous, new, poster on a message board, or multiple credible sources ... That is not a hard decision. 

Your so called "multiple credible sources" don't know anything but to spin the lies they are fed from band members that don't even know the truth.

[jarmo]

I thought this was an open message board, not a newspaper. I guess I was wrong.

Well, just like in a newspaper, somebody has to decide what's gonna be on this board.

That's what I was getting at.

Well whoever it is, is a liar. The record has NOT been turned in. This is 100% confirmed with Interscope. Its been played more than once and loved, but not turned in.

I think it's a combination of two things. People have said it's done and some have said it's the record company holding up its release.

Obviously some think this means the record company has the album in their hands....




/jarmo

[lakersaregreat]

I thought this was an open message board, not a newspaper. I guess I was wrong.

Well, just like in a newspaper, somebody has to decide what's gonna be on this board.

That's what I was getting at.

Well whoever it is, is a liar. The record has NOT been turned in. This is 100% confirmed with Interscope. Its been played more than once and loved, but not turned in.

I think it's a combination of two things. People have said it's done and some have said it's the record company holding up its release.

Obviously some think this means the record company has the album in their hands....




/jarmo

I find it very hard to believe that the band would turn in the album without all the release details and finances in place. That would  be the wrong move because it would then be up to geffen to decide the fate of the cd. The band would not do that. And just like you say, and I agree, GNR does things on their own terms. It will be no different with the CD. It may be done, but Geffen does not have it. Is that so hard to swallow?

[lakersaregreat]

I thought this was an open message board, not a newspaper. I guess I was wrong.

Well, just like in a newspaper, somebody has to decide what's gonna be on this board.

That's what I was getting at.

Well whoever it is, is a liar. The record has NOT been turned in. This is 100% confirmed with Interscope. Its been played more than once and loved, but not turned in.

I think it's a combination of two things. People have said it's done and some have said it's the record company holding up its release.

Obviously some think this means the record company has the album in their hands....




/jarmo

As far as the newspaper analogy, I have to disagree with you. One of the reasons that message boards/blogs were started was because of exactly the reason you gave about newspapers. Newspapers are edited, etc. So, that's why boards/blogs were created so EVERYONE can discuss openly their views and ideas without the censureship of the newpapers editors. It's so everyone can have an outlet for their ideas and then others can either agree or disagree with them. The boards should not be censured like a newspaper unless you want to have your own newspaper online. And if that's what you want, you are 100% allowed to do that. But, don't come out and make the analogy that a newspaper and the blogs/message boards are the same...they are totally not.

[Giant_Robot]

I thought this was an open message board, not a newspaper. I guess I was wrong.

Well, just like in a newspaper, somebody has to decide what's gonna be on this board.

That's what I was getting at.

Well whoever it is, is a liar. The record has NOT been turned in. This is 100% confirmed with Interscope. Its been played more than once and loved, but not turned in.

I think it's a combination of two things. People have said it's done and some have said it's the record company holding up its release.

Obviously some think this means the record company has the album in their hands....




/jarmo

I find it very hard to believe that the band would turn in the album without all the release details and finances in place. That would  be the wrong move because it would then be up to geffen to decide the fate of the cd. The band would not do that. And just like you say, and I agree, GNR does things on their own terms. It will be no different with the CD. It may be done, but Geffen does not have it. Is that so hard to swallow?

I agree !
This is the truth !

[jarmo]

As far as the newspaper analogy, I have to disagree with you. One of the reasons that message boards/blogs were started was because of exactly the reason you gave about newspapers. Newspapers are edited, etc. So, that's why boards/blogs were created so EVERYONE can discuss openly their views and ideas without the censureship of the newpapers editors. It's so everyone can have an outlet for their ideas and then others can either agree or disagree with them. The boards should not be censured like a newspaper unless you want to have your own newspaper online. And if that's what you want, you are 100% allowed to do that. But, don't come out and make the analogy that a newspaper and the blogs/message boards are the same...they are totally not.

Fair enough, you disagree.

I think since it's something I started that I have the right to choose what kind of orientation my site should have.

If I don't want porn on my site, it's my choice.

If I don't want hate propaganda, lies, gossip or Bon Jovi articles on my site, it's up to me.


I have tried running an unmoderated board in the late 90s. It did not work and I decided never to do that mistake again. 



What I don't necessarily understand is the fact that I have to defend myself week after week for running a site my way instead of running it to fit your needs.

You don't like it? Fair enough. Go somewhere else.

It's up to you.

But please don't think that I'll start changing things just because it'll make me more popular among certain fans.




/jarmo

[bodine]

WTF does it matter whether or not the record company has it?  I mean they'll obviously need it in order to eventually get it onto store shelves, but for whatever reason it's obviously not ready for that yet.  I don't think anybody got so specific as to say what exactly was meant by "done", it's just been said that it's done.  Period.

[ppbebe]

fake insider huh? Hmmm.  Believe me or not, i don't care. But the truth is Interscope loves the record, they've heard it numerous times, thinks Axl is a genius (still),

aren't these important? the definitions of to hand in might differ.
The band finished the album and the label heard it and loved it. Still they have things to negotiate.

[bodine]

If I don't want porn on my site, it's my choice.

Whoa, whoa whoa!!!!!!  You're not suggesting that you don't want porn on your site, are you ?  

[Kujo]

Did you have to mention Bon Jovi? Now D is going to come here and we are going to have to explain all the big words, like "Orwellian" to him. Thanks alot!

[ppbebe]

I hope jarmo doesn't want   bon jovi in the GNR section.

[Regibold]

We can't talk about Bon Jovi, but Fernando's the biggest Bon Jovi fan ever, how come he gets away with it? 

[lakersaregreat]

As far as the newspaper analogy, I have to disagree with you. One of the reasons that message boards/blogs were started was because of exactly the reason you gave about newspapers. Newspapers are edited, etc. So, that's why boards/blogs were created so EVERYONE can discuss openly their views and ideas without the censureship of the newpapers editors. It's so everyone can have an outlet for their ideas and then others can either agree or disagree with them. The boards should not be censured like a newspaper unless you want to have your own newspaper online. And if that's what you want, you are 100% allowed to do that. But, don't come out and make the analogy that a newspaper and the blogs/message boards are the same...they are totally not.

Fair enough, you disagree.

I think since it's something I started that I have the right to choose what kind of orientation my site should have.

If I don't want porn on my site, it's my choice.

If I don't want hate propaganda, lies, gossip or Bon Jovi articles on my site, it's up to me.


I have tried running an unmoderated board in the late 90s. It did not work and I decided never to do that mistake again. 



What I don't necessarily understand is the fact that I have to defend myself week after week for running a site my way instead of running it to fit your needs.

You don't like it? Fair enough. Go somewhere else.

It's up to you.

But please don't think that I'll start changing things just because it'll make me more popular among certain fans.




/jarmo

Pardon me, but where in my post did I suggest to you that you change your site or state that I didn't like it? My post was simply a reply to your statement that analogized a newspaper to your website. I disagreed with that and that was all I said.

[ppbebe]

Pardon me, but where in my post did I suggest to you that you change your site or state that I didn't like it?

Yeah but do you like this board? Why?

I like the fact that GNR doesn't kiss fans asses. That doesn't mean GNR members never listen to the fans or others. They still stay true to what they believe.
Likewise its one of the reasons I like this board that it doesn't kiss its members asses.
A board that accommodates itself to whatever loudmouthed is unreliable in my opinion.

Not to mention  All the above are fucking off topic.