What the hell?

[D]

You just dont get it. If you would just say "I havent seen the current line up, so I dont have an opinion." there wouldnt be a problem. Instead you tell everyone that has seen this band perform, that we are wrong for "worshipping" them. As long as you want to argue opinions as if they are facts, there will be people here to give you shit for it.

When the fuck did I ever say anything about live performance?


DUDE, u have to write your own songs and PROVE that u are capable of carrying on the GNR legacy


I COULD GIVE A FUCK HOW WELL SOMEONE PLAYS A GODDAMN COVER SONG




A GNR Tribute band are going to be in Chattanooga Feb 16th

Id rather jack off with razorblade covered gloves than watch that shit.


U dont earn your merit by playing someone elses material.

U earn your  merit by writing great stand the test of time memorable riffs and solos.

Until CD comes out, we don't know that they can.


That is my whole point.


U can't annoint someone just cause they play with Axl. they have to prove they can do it

without an album, they get an incomplete cause no one knows yet if they will write songs that will be heard decades from now and essentially that is what it comes down to.

They have giant shoes to fill and going out on tour and playing classic GNR songs doesn't fill those shoes yet. We have to get an album.

I think they can fill the shoes but I am a wait and see kind of person.

Someone explain this logic:

How can a band that has yet to release a single song be better than a band who has some of the all time greatest most legendary songs in Rock N Roll History?

[CheapJon]

I COULD GIVE A FUCK HOW WELL SOMEONE PLAYS A GODDAMN COVER SONG

for feeling that way you've complained a whole lot about how the band plays the solos of the old songs.. 

[Kujo]

Its all opinion. Why do you even care that a bunch of people like this band better than the old? Are you that insecure in your own beliefs?

[D]

No but it just drives me crazy when people totally disrespect the old band.

Its like people forget who wrote those amazing guitar parts/solos the new band is playing.



When someone just totally shits on Slash and the old members it upsets me. So I feel a need to defend the old band which in turn makes it seem like I hate the new band but I don't.

I just hold the original band very close and will defend the fuck out of them.

I'd do the exact same if someone dissed Axl. I was all over Scott's ass when he talked dumbshit about Axl.


It would be like Slash etc hiring a new singer and people saying that guy was better than Axl cause he can sing higher or he has a more "Technical" voice. Then using Youtube videos of the guy singing something perfectly in key of GNR's and saying "See, he sings better than Axl"  Its just dumb to say someone plays something better than a guy who wrote it.

I have met tons of guitar players who can play every GNR,Metallica, Pantera whatever song note for note but can't write an original piece of music to save their lives. It only matters what u create. that is how u are judged.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

for feeling that way you've complained a whole lot about how the band plays the solos of the old songs.. 

You sir, are the voice of reason.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

It would be like Slash etc hiring a new singer and people saying that guy was better than Axl cause he can sing higher or he has a more "Technical" voice. Then using Youtube videos of the guy singing something perfectly in key of GNR's and saying "See, he sings better than Axl" 

Hey, aren't you the one who judges GN'R off of YouTube clips?

[Jim Bob]

the old band = history. 

the current lineup = now.

disrespecting the current lineup is far more idiotic when that is the band we are here to support.

[jarmo]

A troll is someone who follows u in every thread and tries to argue *see Gypsy following me into NFL threads, NHL threads etc etc*

No. She argues with you because you say a lot of things that make no sense to many of us.

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response.

Which is exactly what you do.

I see both sides of everything, but I want people to be fair.

You do?

I thought you only saw your side and attacked the band.

You know, the band you have no respect for even though you're a fan of.

If I am an idiot and a troll for criticizing the new band, Norway should be held accountable for posting on a GNR board that the old band are boring and inferior to "Prodigy" are u serious?

That's his opinion.

And since this isn't "the good ol' times" board, it's not really a problem...

I know many people disagree with him though.



Are you gonna explain how you are defending the band against media attacks while you're stabbing the band in the back yourself?




/jarmo

[D]

Its not stabbing the band in the back. Its educating fans about GNR's history and asking they respect the entire history of GNR and not feeling like they have to shit on the old members to make Axl happy. Hell Axl even gives nothing but respect to the old guys, So why do fans feel compelled to trash them to make the new band look better?


It makes no sense how u can hate the old band who are legendary and wrote some of the most amazing songs ever and Love a band who hasn't released an album.


So what are people basing their love on? the way the new members play the old songs?

To me, that just doesn't make much sense.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

So what are people basing their love on? the way the new members play the old songs?

For me, it would have to be Tommy's plaid pants.

But that's just me.

[Kujo]

You're educating them? Would this be the only class in the world where the teacher wears a helmet and shows up on the shortbus but not the students? . . . . . . Maybe they are basing their opinion on the 10 or so songs we have heard plus the way the band works together live. Just because you choose not to, doesnt make them wrong.

[D]

U supported Norway saying Prodigy are better than Old GNR

If that isn't biased, I don't know what is.

So really, Anything u post after that garbage, I cannot take seriously.

[Jim Bob]

U supported Norway saying Prodigy are better than Old GNR

If that isn't biased, I don't know what is.

So really, Anything u post after that garbage, I cannot take seriously.

you come to a board only to defend something thats been gone for many years and to belittle those who support the band.    I think you are the one who can't be taken seriously, especially considering you called yourself a troll just a few pages back and admitted you were being an assclown.

[Kujo]

I supported that Norway was entitled to that opinion. I never said I agreed with it. You would get in alot less of these "discussions" if you actually read what was written.

[D]

Never said I was a troll, I said people tried to say i was but disagreeing with people doesnt make u a troll.


Name one thing I have said that isn't true about the new band.


ONE THING

[ppbebe]

Yes I am fucking serious. And IMO The Prodigy are more intense live than GnR will ever be and ever was. OMG!

yep prodigy is great but You'll have to swallow the bold words when you see GNR live.  I warn you!

[CheapJon]

Never said I was a troll, I said people tried to say i was but disagreeing with people doesnt make u a troll.

I actually reached "Troll" Status which kind of jolted me out of my ignorance and made me realize I needed to shut up cause I sure as hell don't want to be a troll.


I guess I need to learn to seperate the two and realize that the new members are individuals and not trying to be the old members. 

*whistlin'* 

[chineseblues]

Never said I was a troll, I said people tried to say i was but disagreeing with people doesnt make u a troll.


Name one thing I have said that isn't true about the new band.


ONE THING

Easy, you said Tommy was in the Pretenders   

[Kujo]

Well you said Tommy was in the Pretenders. That wasnt completely accurate.

[jarmo]

Its not stabbing the band in the back. Its educating fans about GNR's history and asking they respect the entire history of GNR and not feeling like they have to shit on the old members to make Axl happy. Hell Axl even gives nothing but respect to the old guys, So why do fans feel compelled to trash them to make the new band look better?

Now you're twisting the issue.

You come to this site to tell everybody here that you have no respect for the band that this site is about.

You don't see how that's considered trolling?

Do you go to Prince sites telling everybody he sucks?


This has nothing to do with old vs new. This is about you claiming to support the band while making stupid comments about them not deserving your respect etc.




/jarmo