What the hell?

[Kujo]

"These guys havent done anything to deserve my respect."  You never said those words?

[SLCPUNK]

Touch? Touch?.

[D]

And?

Not to beat the dead horse but what have they done in GNR so far?


Once they release the album and start doing interviews etc etc, They will earn my respect but I don't just accept everyone who plays with Axl as the greatest musician to ever grace the universe just because.


If that makes me less of a fan,so be it.

It is not a slight on the guys in the band at all. It wouldn't matter who comes and goes, I have to see what they can contribute to the legacy of GNR. a few leaked demos and tours of AFD doesn't do it yet.


They have loads of talent and Im sure the album will be amazing, I, however, want to hear the album first.

What's wrong with that?


Same way with one of my sports teams.

Just cause they draft or sign so and so, I don't get excited or whatever till they prove they live up to the hype.


Look at Reggie Bush in the NFL. People had him as the greatest thing to ever grace a football field before he took one snap.

After 2 years, he hasn't lived up to the hype and is a bust.


We live in a show me society and once Im shown, Ill be a bigger fanboy than anyone here.

[jarmo]

D has said a lot of stupid shit but don't hold him responsible for any of it.

He loves to attack GN'R for stupid shit while claiming he's a big fan.

He doesn't respect GN'R members who have stuck with Axl for years and toured the world. No, there's no reason for him to respect anybody for that.



The idea of loyalty and sticking to what you believe in doesn't get any respect from D.



Comparing GN'R members to a football player? Well in this case, the guys have accomplished stuff. Both in GN'R and outside of GN'R.

They're not rookies.....





/jarmo

[D]

How is that not respecting members?

What cause I want their creation to see the light of day?

I have stuck up for these members alot and said how unfair it is that they have to be constantly criticized and disrespected cause their contributions havent been heard.



I love the leaks but I want to hear them in album form.


Face it

These guys have a mountain to climb being in Guns N Roses.

Sometimes it seems some of u on here have forgotten exactly how big of a phenomenon Guns N Roses are/were. They have the biggest average of albums sold in the US probably by far if u take the 3 biggest of any bands career.


These new guys arent joining and walking in to some run of the mill good band. They are in a LEGENDARY, top 10 all time greatest band to ever grace a stage. Hell maybe top 5.


U have to prove u belong by contributing to the legacy already established.

What is wrong with saying that?

Is it not true?

[jarmo]

What cause I want their creation to see the light of day?

You think you're the only fan who'd love to hear their new music?

I have stuck up for these members alot and said how unfair it is that they have to be constantly criticized and disrespected cause their contributions havent been heard.

Wait.

You say you defend them from people who disrespect the band members because the album isn't out yet?

But you yourself said they don't deserve any respect because they haven't put out music.

Are you saying you defend GN'R from yourself? 

Sometimes it seems some of u on here have forgotten exactly how big of a phenomenon Guns N Roses are/were.

No.




/jarmo

[Kujo]

Isnt it enough that Axl chose these guys over anyone else? . . . . . . and Reggie Bush is a bust after 1 weak season on a bad team? Okaaayyy.

[D]

Isnt it enough that Axl chose these guys over anyone else? . . . . . . and Reggie Bush is a bust after 1 weak season on a bad team? Okaaayyy.

Considering he was suppose to be hybrid of Gayle Sayers and Barry Sanders and a faster Ladanian Tomlinson but is more like a poor man's Brian Westbrook, Id say yes he is a bust.


I've defended the new members against the media etc who have bashed them in the past. I myself though think its only fair that u contribute to a band's success before u are bestowed this legendary status which is hollow cause playing with Axl doesn't make u a legend. what u contribute to the band does.

[jarmo]

I've defended the new members against the media etc who have bashed them in the past.

How noble of you for defending them against the media and then attacking the band.





/jarmo

[Kujo]

So all of us who saw these guys "contribute" to some of the best live shows ever arent allowed to praise what we witnessed first hand? And again certain members of this band were legends long before joining GnR. Just because you never heard of them, doesnt make it any less true.

[D]

So all of us who saw these guys "contribute" to some of the best live shows ever arent allowed to praise what we witnessed first hand? And again certain members of this band were legends long before joining GnR. Just because you never heard of them, doesnt make it any less true.

How is saying u want to hear their contributions to a band "Attacking" Them?


Who is a legend Kujo outside of Tommy?

Last I checked Replacements are a different style than GNR right?

[jarmo]

Who is a legend Kujo outside of Tommy?

Last I checked Pretenders is a different style than GNR right?

Holy shit, you didn't even get his former band right....

Tommy wasn't in this band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Hy7uAb_eU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEZ2eUd7cC0



/jarmo

[D]

Shit I meant Replacements

Sorry..................

[Kujo]

I never used the word "attack" did I? Legend depends on your definition. Some might consider Ron a legend for all his solo work, or Brain for the work he has done. I know after seeing Robin perform 7 times in 06, he is held in high esteem in my book. By the way, what the hell do the Pretenders have to do with this?

[chineseblues]

Who is a legend Kujo outside of Tommy?

Last I checked Pretenders is a different style than GNR right?

Holy shit, you didn't even get his former band right....

Tommy wasn't in this band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Hy7uAb_eU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEZ2eUd7cC0



/jarmo

He's a fan of them and he respects them, but he can't even get Tommy's former band right? Holy fuck that's what I call a super fan!!

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

[fuckin crazy]

He's a fan of them and he respects them, but he can't even get Tommy's former band right? Holy fuck that's what I call a super fan!!

Oh, come on, he was "speaking" extemporaneously. I think everyone knows that Tommy wasn't in the Pretenders.

[chineseblues]

He's a fan of them and he respects them, but he can't even get Tommy's former band right? Holy fuck that's what I call a super fan!!

Oh, come on, he was "speaking" extemporaneously. I think everyone knows that Tommy wasn't in the Pretenders.

Then why did he edit his post once it was pointed out he had the wrong band? 

[Jim Bob]

D. do you have multiple personalities?? 

just a couple pages back..

Im done bitchin guys.  Sorry, I think I was on my period or something or some sort of chemical inbalance.  U guys know I post without thinking half the time.

I get a little too nostalgic

I was too harsh and unfair to the new members and a complete asshole, So sorry everybody

I actually reached "Troll" Status which kind of jolted me out of my ignorance and made me realize I needed to shut up cause I sure as hell don't want to be a troll

take your own advice, dude.

[norway]

These guys have a mountain to climb being in Guns N Roses.

Why you think that?
Maybe a lot of was more impressed with Axl and like the current members better?

I know I for one take Buckethead, The Prodigy and some new intresting stuff over boring oldschool-gnr anyday