VR to begin work on new album in April!

[Fingers]

I think its funny Jarmo is championing that STP reunion when in reality its the last thing he should want.



If VR break up, I guarantee we see a GNR reunion within 5 years.  The managers and record labels will see to it.

If Motley Crue can get back together after all their shit, GNR definitely could and do a reunion tour.

Im not sayin they'd make a new album together, but they could tour using seperate buses and play a huge cash grab.


Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame is coming up.............. Just saying............


Kiss inviting Ace and Peter to their MTV Unplugged caused a Kiss reunion, something we thought we'd never see.


So jarmo and New GNR fans should be supporting VR and hoping they never break up.

Reunion tours of any kind are huge these days-see Van Halen for example-there will be money for an STP reunion, I could only imagine what would be offered for an original GNR reunion

[Smoking Guns]

I think its funny Jarmo is championing that STP reunion when in reality its the last thing he should want.

Couldn't care less about an STP reunion.


It's just the inevitable next step for Weiland.

I wouldn't be surprised if the promoters are throwing money at them unlike what seems to be happening with VR.




/jarmo

Jarmo, what year did promoters give up on trying to get a GNR reunion together?  2001 maybe?  I know you used to always hear about it, just wondered if rumor or if anything actually was ever offered or presented... 

[FunkyMonkey]

STP reunion in the coming months...according to Scott.

the legendary Patti LaBelle, who was kind enough to invite this blogger on stage to sing backup on the disco classic Lady Marmalade, was in stellar voice, as was Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver rocker Scott Weiland, who told us that we should be on the lookout for an STP reunion in the coming months.

http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/2008/01/baypoint-gala-r.html

[Smoking Guns]

Uh oh!

[Ali]

Wow, that is huge news if true.

How can there be an STP reunion anytime soon if VR is going to work on a new album in April?

Ali

[jarmo]

Wow, that is huge news if true.

How can there be an STP reunion anytime soon if VR is going to work on a new album in April?

Ali

That's Slash's plan.

Scott is talking about an STP reunion and Duff isn't even sure if they'll make another VR album....




/jarmo

[Ines_rocks!]

STP reunion in the upcoming months? Omg... I?m totally lost now... 

[ShotgunBlues1978]

A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up.  The reason?  Because the only reason it would happen for money.  Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened.  If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't.  He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen.  Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that.  He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway.  That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it.  People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is

[Feel_The_Burn]

A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up.  The reason?  Because the only reason it would happen for money.  Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened.  If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't.  He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen.  Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that.  He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway.  That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it.  People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is

Question , Since when are you Axl's inner conscious?

[Ines_rocks!]

A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up.  The reason?  Because the only reason it would happen for money.  Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened.  If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't.  He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen.  Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that.  He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway.  That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it.  People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is

what does that have to do with the topic?

[jarmo]

A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up.  The reason?  Because the only reason it would happen for money.  Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened.  If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't.  He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen.  Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that.  He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway.  That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it.  People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is

what does that have to do with the topic?

Ask the VR fan who brought it up: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=50469.msg1034867#msg1034867

 


/jarmo

[Fingers]

Hey, if it ends tomorrow, I'll still be happy with what they did-I'm sure a lot of people thought Slash and  Duff could do nothing after GNR

[SpiritDave]

The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype.

They did.  Libertad has plenty of great tunes.  It's just been promoted badly.  Like a lot of rock music today.

Shame.  I listen to the album on a very regular basis.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up.  The reason?  Because the only reason it would happen for money.  Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened.  If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't.  He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen.  Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that.  He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway.  That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it.  People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is

Question , Since when are you Axl's inner conscious?

It's called using common sense based on previous decisions and behavior of all involved to project what will happen.  We know that Slash and Duff have both repeatedly said they'd be up for it.  We know for a fact that promoters have already offered a huge amount of money to try to make it happen.  We know for a fact that Axl has never given even the slightest indication that he's interested in a "reunion".  None of his behavior has indicated that his goal is to milk the GnR name just for the sake of making as much money as possible.  There's absolutely no reason to believe based on his actions that he is interested in doing a reunion with the old lineup.  If he was, it would be a money-driven decision and it would've happened a long time ago.  Since there's absolutely no logical reason to believe that the old lineup could ever co-exist and make music together again given their vastly different views on the creative process not to mention all of the bad blood, that means the only logical motivation for a reunion would be if someone threw a ridiculous amount of money at them for a tour, which has already happened and which didn't even come close to resulting in a reunion.  I don't claim to know what drives Axl but based on common sense you can deduce that there are a lot of things aside from money that drive him.  My personal opinion just based on what little I know about Axl and what I can deduce from his previous actions is that he would prefer to remain out of the public eye entirely than do a cash-grab reunion tour.  There is a lot of pride and personal interest involved that goes beyond money here.  Considering Axl is already in the driver's seat and has proven he can tour successfully with the current GnR lineup just makes the notion of a cash-grab reunion that much more absurd

[Ines_rocks!]

The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype.

They did.  Libertad has plenty of great tunes.  It's just been promoted badly.  Like a lot of rock music today.

I agree with you. I think it?s a better album than Contraband... sure deserved more hype and sellings....

[FunkyMonkey]

The Miami Herald comment is now on Stone Temple Pilot's Wikipedia page...it must be true. 

On January 20, 2008, a Miami Herald blog reported that Scott said that the public "should be on the lookout for an STP reunion in the coming months."

[CheapJon]

The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype.

They did.  Libertad has plenty of great tunes.  It's just been promoted badly.  Like a lot of rock music today.

I agree with you. I think it?s a better album than Contraband... sure deserved more hype and sellings....

it don't deserve more hype, scott hyped it enough when he compared it to classic RS records and the other members said stuff about it too

[don_vercetti]

I like Libertad but the reason it didnt sell is simple.

No GREAT SONGS


on Contraband u had SLither and FTP which were GREAT SONGS, YGNR live made people go out and buy the album and other great songs like STB, DIFTK etc.


Libertad kind of flatlines. There really is no arch. Every song is good but nothing is really great so the whole album is kind of on one plain and it never goes up.

If u asked 20 people their fav song on Libertad, I guarantee no song would get an overwhelming amount of votes.

CB u would have overwhelming numbers for Slither and FTP. Songs that make people buy albums and want to see u live.

CB was different. It started fuckin awesome with STB then right into DIFTK. an awesome back to back punch. it then settled down and segued into FTP and then started kicking ass again with Headspace, Superhuman Set me Free, Slither YGNR


CB had a great arch to it. U had good songs but 3 or 4 really Great songs and thats what sells albums.

I agree with what you said about Contraband, and I'd just add that Contraband's heaviness is what appealed to GnR fans who bought the album because of the former Gunners.  I think the significantly lighter and poppier vibe of Libertad as well as the lack of big, crunchy guitars probably turned off a significant number of the people who were into VR because of GnR

Word.  That's pretty much what I have against libertad.  Just didn't strike a chord + had no really great songs. 

[Feel_The_Burn]

I like Libertad but the reason it didnt sell is simple.

No GREAT SONGS


on Contraband u had SLither and FTP which were GREAT SONGS, YGNR live made people go out and buy the album and other great songs like STB, DIFTK etc.


Libertad kind of flatlines. There really is no arch. Every song is good but nothing is really great so the whole album is kind of on one plain and it never goes up.

If u asked 20 people their fav song on Libertad, I guarantee no song would get an overwhelming amount of votes.

CB u would have overwhelming numbers for Slither and FTP. Songs that make people buy albums and want to see u live.

CB was different. It started fuckin awesome with STB then right into DIFTK. an awesome back to back punch. it then settled down and segued into FTP and then started kicking ass again with Headspace, Superhuman Set me Free, Slither YGNR


CB had a great arch to it. U had good songs but 3 or 4 really Great songs and thats what sells albums.

I agree with what you said about Contraband, and I'd just add that Contraband's heaviness is what appealed to GnR fans who bought the album because of the former Gunners.  I think the significantly lighter and poppier vibe of Libertad as well as the lack of big, crunchy guitars probably turned off a significant number of the people who were into VR because of GnR

Word.  That's pretty much what I have against libertad.  Just didn't strike a chord + had no really great songs. 

Agree'd but then again Guns had songs like estranged and november rain , patience.... Soft isn't bad. I think Libertad had some great songs , I think Last Fight was really good , American Man. It was their single choices that got them screwed , SBQW was probably my least favorite followed by GOTD , which ironically happened to be the 1st AND 2nd singles  lmao.

[GeraldFord]

Well,

Buckcherry scored it big with albums #1 and 3.

STP should wait until the 00s are over before they try to ride a wave of 90s nostelgia...or maybe they could just reform and open up for the Spice Girls....