'Chinese Democracy' - The Song -

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[daviebuckethead]

i hear those lyrics too, but i dont understand how it can be thought of as a one in a million moment. i didn't think the song containecd any derogatory terms at all.

[DuffRock]

i hear those lyrics too, but i dont understand how it can be thought of as a one in a million moment. i didn't think the song containecd any derogatory terms at all.

Sure, its no where near as offensive as One in a Million. Although some will question the term Your own kind and blow it out of all proportion

i dont think anyone will do that, he's not saying anything offensive at all!

[BlowUpYourVideo]

On live versions, I heard the first line as

It's like a walk in the park for myself

but listening to the new version, it does sound like from the cell.

I'm sure the second line is

Now you?re keeping your own kind in hell

I think those lyrics were done by people listening to bootlegs (possibly not very good ones?).



I see the song as a criticism of the Chinese government, and the words your own kind being a reference to the Chinese people. Just my take...

[von]

I'd always heard "Like your keeping your own kind of hell," but I don't see it being a big deal either way.

[ppbebe]

I like the line, Jonny von Doom

I did an internet search and the lyric ididn't show up?

Here: (the line isn't mentioned at all)
http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Guns-N-Roses/Chinese-Democracy.html

Here:
http://www.elyrics.net/read/g/guns-n_-roses-lyrics/chinese-democracy-lyrics.html
Then you'll walk them home for the cells
Then now you'll dig for your road back to hell

Who is hearing things. Me or them 

them and still you're out of time.

htgth always says
It's like a walk in a park from a cell
And now you're keeping you're own kind in hell
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/releases/chinese-democracy/chinese-democracy.html

[Axl4Prez2004]

On live versions, I heard the first line as

It's like a walk in the park for myself

but listening to the new version, it does sound like from the cell.

I'm sure the second line is

Now you?re keeping your own kind in hell

I think those lyrics were done by people listening to bootlegs (possibly not very good ones?).



I see the song as a criticism of the Chinese government, and the words your own kind being a reference to the Chinese people. Just my take...

criticism of the Chinese government, and the words your own kind

Exactly.

^  Exactly. 

[Jizzo]

so axl cant criticize a communist nation if he wants?

[DuffRock]

so axl cant criticize a communist nation if he wants?

communist nations have feelings too

[Voodoochild]

Don't we all know this already? What did you think the title "Chinese Democracy" is, if it isn't already a shot at the communism?

[gunns1]

so axl cant criticize a communist nation if he wants?

communist nations have feelings too

And they let their citizens have feeling too,
Only If they make em...

[ppbebe]

Not being there I don't have a clue about how china is but apparently China is fast changing as we speak. 

I think it can be a metaphor for a despotic /monopolistic state on any scale.

[Axlzroxchic]

I'd always heard "Like your keeping your own kind of hell," but I don't see it being a big deal either way.

  well i guess i wasnt the only one.... 

[masterrecorder]

Amazon seem really sure of their dates: 

Chinese Democracy [Content/Copy-Protected CD]
Availability: This title will be released on February 12, 2008. Pre-order now!
Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chinese-Democracy-Guns-N-Roses/dp/B000NQDFP8

You should not care about these dates. Amazon refreshes a random date every year

[Axlzroxchic]

Amazon seem really sure of their dates:?

Chinese Democracy [Content/Copy-Protected CD]
Availability: This title will be released on February 12, 2008. Pre-order now!
Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chinese-Democracy-Guns-N-Roses/dp/B000NQDFP8

You should not care about these dates. Amazon refreshes a random date every year

  R U Serious??? not again, geee when are these (excuse my language) idiots going to give it up already... i wonder if anyone really does give $$$ into this "preorder" lie and if they do, what does Amazon do with their $$$..???uhhmmm geee i wonder.... 

[CheapJon]

tihs thread was about the song eh? if you wanna talk about release dates on internet sites there's a thread for that

[younggunner]

you think you got it all locked up inside
and if you feed them enough they'll die
its like a walk in the park from a cell
now your keeping your own kind in hell
when you pray for us blame yourself
cant make out this line
and your out of time


thats from the studio version. I can never figure out the 6th line. Does anyone know?

[justynius]

you think you got it all locked up inside
and if you feed them enough they'll die
its like a walk in the park from a cell
now your keeping your own kind in hell
when you pray for us blame yourself
cant make out this line
and your out of time


thats from the studio version. I can never figure out the 6th line. Does anyone know?

I think it's: "Like if your ass from your head you could tell" haha

When they performed it in 2002, it was "And when their arms reach out for your help" but it's definitely not that in the demo.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

when you pray for us blame yourself
cant make out this line

For those two lines, I hear

When your Great Wall rocks, blame yourself
Like if your eyes were in your head, you could tell

[ppbebe]

Not being there I don't have a clue about how china is but apparently China is fast changing as we speak. 

I think it can be a metaphor for a despotic /monopolistic state on any scale.

China is changing very fast. Its becoming like everywhere else in the western world. Some will see it as better, and some will see it as worse. The ones making money will see it as better, and the ones that become worse off than when it was communist state* will see it as worse.
The grass is always greener on the other side


Axl needs to get a move on a release the album before its out of date.

HMV seem to know something:
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=527255&gclid=CPjmkPfH2pACFQNvEgodURytXg
Guns & Roses -
Chinese Democracy
List Price ?16.99 Your saving ?8.00

Release date: 11-2-2008
Availability: pre-order now
Number of Discs: 1
Catalogue Number: PRERELCD
Label: POLYDOR


*China is still a communist state.
It will take years for the old people to die out and for communism to become completely eradicated.

there are always conservative people in any community. I guess communism and despotism are two different things tho. 

According to wiki, Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production. This doesn't sound like china or any communist nation but a bit like the world of Internet. maybe the idea itself and democracy aren't exactly incompatible.

I don't remember axl said anything about the ideology but he referred to the oppressive government.