CD w/ Label = Directly from Richard

[Voodoochild]

Also, who said it's ready to release? It's finished and it's up to the label now, but this is not yet "ready to release".

[CheapJon]

I had a cool vision of a video, it was fortus playing like on some sort of platform or pillar and everything around him were all black except a "laser" pointing at him and the camera views was kinda like the ones in november rain while slash is soloing but more action and stuff.. would be very cool with a video like that, even though it might not sound cool you should all see the video in my mind ?

[slashsbaconpit]

Could you elaborate on your reasoning? This looks like it could be yet another misreading of this statement, and that just wouldnt do. dear me no siree.

Depending on your reasoning, however, i may have to apologise.

My point is that official word from the band has not been sent out. No letters from Axl, no statements from his people. If the record is really within a month or two of release, I think the band would have put out something more official than some random e-mail. I mean, give me a break. These guys all decline to talk about CD whenever they are asked. Why would one of them just fire off an e-mail saying, "Yep it's done, and the record company has it" when for years they have ducked, dodged and flat out avoided the subject in interviews and such?

No, if it is close to release, the band will let us know through official channels. 

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Why is there such a debate on this topic still?  Mysteron clearly stated that the record is done and the ball is now in the record company's hands.  Axl is not going to annouce a release date again until everything has been worked out with the record company.  No one is willing to guess how long this might take, understandably so because if they fail to meet that date everyone will scream bloody murder.  Hopefully the record company and the band can expeditiously move on and agree to terms and we can have CD in our stereo's as soon as possible.  So stop trying to figure out what Richard meant.  Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done. 

[slashsbaconpit]

 

Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done.?

Yeah. He saw them on MTV. Once. In 1993.

[Bartlet]

Could you elaborate on your reasoning? This looks like it could be yet another misreading of this statement, and that just wouldnt do. dear me no siree.

Depending on your reasoning, however, i may have to apologise.

My point is that official word from the band has not been sent out. No letters from Axl, no statements from his people. If the record is really within a month or two of release, I think the band would have put out something more official than some random e-mail. I mean, give me a break. These guys all decline to talk about CD whenever they are asked. Why would one of them just fire off an e-mail saying, "Yep it's done, and the record company has it" when for years they have ducked, dodged and flat out avoided the subject in interviews and such?

No, if it is close to release, the band will let us know through official channels.?

I'm still struggling with what this has to do with axl's statement, which said that as n when theres a new date, we will be notified. it said nothing more and nothing less. I do understand your doubt about fortus saying this tho.

Why is there such a debate on this topic still? Mysteron clearly stated that the record is done and the ball is now in the record company's hands. Axl is not going to annouce a release date again until everything has been worked out with the record company. No one is willing to guess how long this might take, understandably so because if they fail to meet that date everyone will scream bloody murder. Hopefully the record company and the band can expeditiously move on and agree to terms and we can have CD in our stereo's as soon as possible. So stop trying to figure out what Richard meant. Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done.

I dont believe Mysteron has said it is done as such, i believe he was somewhat more vague than that. Personally, i set little store by him, because he is never more than vague, tho i know i go against the grain there.

[Scabbie]

Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done.?

Then it shouldn't be any problem to clarify:

1. The album is recorded
2. The album is mixed
3. The album is mastered
4. There is nothing that GNR can do right now in order to finalise the release date.

The problem with vague statements is they can be interpreted in so many diffrent ways which I guess is why we end up with 30 page threads about not much at all.

[Bartlet]

Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done.?

Then it shouldn't be any problem to clarify:

1. The album is recorded
2. The album is mixed
3. The album is mastered
4. There is nothing that GNR can do right now in order to finalise the release date.

The problem with vague statements is they can be interpreted in so many diffrent ways which I guess is why we end up with 30 page threads about not much at all.

Not really. Mysteron enjoys being vague. i guess his ego needs it. But as long as we believe the email story, it is quite clear - and not at all vague - what Richard fortus said.

[Jaci_Roxx]

BTW, that Black Label video is one of the lamest music videos I've seen.

Oh. ? I thought it was very cool. But I guess it's a matter of taste...

I'm sure there will be people who won't like the first music video anyway. I guess what matters the most is that they'd be able to make a video that most fans would want to see time & time again. We're the ones watching "Welcome to the videos" etc... Most people that aren't fans won't watch them after they've stopped playing them on music channels or wherever they play them these days.

[slashsbaconpit]

Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done.?

The problem with vague statements is they can be interpreted in so many diffrent ways which I guess is why we end up with 30 page threads about not much at all.

Yeah!

[younggunner]

If I had to guess I would think the most realistic release date for this yr would be around Rio. I am sure GNR will play Rio. I cant see them playing the same setlist yet again at Rio and on tour in general.

Then it shouldn't be any problem to clarify:

1. The album is recorded
2. The album is mixed
3. The album is mastered
4. There is nothing that GNR can do right now in order to finalise the release date.

The problem with vague statements is they can be interpreted in so many diffrent ways which I guess is why we end up with 30 page threads about not much at all.

Agreed. I dont think he or anyone else can answer questions 2 -4. I think its safe to assume that the album is recorded and ready for the next 2 steps. Other than that who knows the status of the album. Hopefully its already been mixed and mastered.

Vague statements are made because I dont think hes completely in the know. I think there is a certain amount of speculation. But who knows....

[mrbucketfoot]

the topic is still going because what else do we have to talk about?

[RnT]

Mysteron obviously has close ties to the band and has stated that the record is done.?

The problem with vague statements is they can be interpreted in so many diffrent ways which I guess is why we end up with 30 page threads about not much at all.

Yeah!

I have a guess about who Mysteron is
but that?s just me

[Jaakko]

Agreed. I dont think he or anyone else can answer questions 2 -4. I think its safe to assume that the album is recorded and ready for the next 2 steps. Other than that who knows the status of the album. Hopefully its already been mixed and mastered.

Album is recorded. Del James said it in February ! Whether it's mixed etc. who knows. But with so many rumors, I'd like to bet that a complete, mixed package of 12-15 songs has been handed to record company.

Perhaps they are figuring should they release all the recorded material in a big shining ammunition box, 4 cds + demos 

[bodine]

Why so much to-do about this little email anyway?  It's a 4-word response, and does anyone know for sure that Richard really sent it?

[Bartlet]

Why so much to-do about this little email anyway?? It's a 4-word response, and does anyone know for sure that Richard really sent it?

No, no one does. but its very significant if he did.

[OreGunsNRoses]

not really. We've little hints and responses and tidbits from various guys in the GNR camp over the years and its never materialized into anything.

[Bartlet]

not really. We've little hints and responses and tidbits from various guys in the GNR camp over the years and its never materialized into anything.

i see your point, but no one has ever said its in the hands of the label before.

[ppbebe]

yea I thought mysteron was talking about volleyball.  Ambiguity is fun.


No one except the poster and Richard can be really sure but seeing as how it's not denied, I'd figure it's far legitimate than kerrang.

[Bartlet]

yea I thought mysteron was talking about volleyball.? Ambiguity is fun.

Yeah funny 

Wish i could be bothered to dig up the quote, and the post to which Mysteron was replying.