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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2007, 09:26:22 PM »

Pit Bulls in my opinion are evil breeds of dogs to begin with that most people want rid of.

Don't believe me? Do some research on some of the unprovoked attacks.

I have. They don't attack nearly as often as other breeds. It is the owners that are evil, the breed itself is a very loving, and loyal animal. I had one that lived for 13 years. It was one of the most gentle, loving animals I have ever had. It slept with my kids, and played with the neighborhood cats.

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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2007, 09:38:59 PM »

Cockfighting *which I honestly have no problem with..... Sorry....*

That you have "no problem" with such pointless, sadistic cruelty is disturbing.  No amount of arbitrary comparisons to unrelated crimes changes that.  And your disclaimers seem disingenuous after youve essentially justified his acts.
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2007, 09:39:24 PM »

Sorry dude your wrong about pitbuls. Its people who make them vicious. A good friend of mine has one and she's a very sweet friendly dog.
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« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2007, 10:05:23 PM »

Bandita's right D.  His crime has nothing to do with the ones you are comparing it to.  In my opinion, every crime you have mentioned thus far is treated with kid gloves.  That's just my opinion.

Vick deserves everything he's received (and lost).
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« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2007, 10:41:22 PM »

It really makes no sense. This could be about any dog breed.  You could start a cocker spaniel dogfighting ring and what would make it any different from pitbulls fighting? 

I find it really disturbing that some people feel there isn't anything wrong with this practice. 

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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2007, 11:22:21 PM »

Well, if he is good, he should only serve half the time which should amount to about 11 months. I don't know if the sentence is mandatory with no time off for good behavior or not. but yes, he got all that because he pissed off the judge. I agree that most criminals don't get enough time and this sentence is kind of ridiculous but pissing off a judge is not a good thing when it comes to sentencing.

Under Federal Guidelines, he must serve a minimum of 18 months....
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« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2007, 01:05:27 AM »

It is possible, that Vick didn't fully realize what he was doing was as wrong as it was.

In Kentucky,Virginia,West Virginia etc, Sometimes u don't equate things the same way as others. I had friends back in Kentucky who were heavy into cockfighting, and it just never seemed like a big deal.  Dog Fighting is worse, but still, People are acting like he was filming child porn.

I think people would be less astonished and more forgiving if he did.  thats what bothers me.
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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2007, 01:14:05 AM »

It is possible, that Vick didn't fully realize what he was doing was as wrong as it was.

In Kentucky,Virginia,West Virginia etc, Sometimes u don't equate things the same way as others. I had friends back in Kentucky who were heavy into cockfighting, and it just never seemed like a big deal.? Dog Fighting is worse, but still, People are acting like he was filming child porn.

I think people would be less astonished and more forgiving if he did.? thats what bothers me.

Let's say you're right about him not fully realizing its wrong (just for arguments sake). Our legal system doesn't work that way. Ignorance of the law is no excuse to a crime. We live in a society where we have to have some common sense about right and wrong. We can't bury our heads in the sand and use that as an excuse to a common sense action. Just like a person who doesn't realize that drinking and driving is dangerous, we should not and do not allow that person to use ignorance of the law to forgive his/her actions.
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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2007, 01:54:55 AM »

D. being a goddamn retard  is no excuse.


Vick got he he got cause he fucked up even after agreeing to comply with the authorities.

If you want to talk about fucking ridicules shit . Then go look up the WM3.
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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2007, 03:27:56 AM »

D, pardon me if this sounds harsh (honestly, i had my company holiday party tonight and i'm blotto)....but.

my dog is part pit - he is the biggest pussy alive and couldn't hurt a soul if he wanted to.

to say they are evil breed of dogs is just woefully ignorant and retarded.  Overall I like you as a poster - but this comment makes you a GIGANTIC DOUCHE. 

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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2007, 11:36:57 AM »


I had friends back in Kentucky who were heavy into cockfighting, and it just never seemed like a big deal.?

Ouch!  Doesn't that hurt?  Make love, not war, brother.

Bad joke aside, the senseless inflicting of pain or death on innocent animals is horrible, sadistic and beyond cruel.  Someone said to me that what he did was subhuman - but the sad truth is that only a human being would do such a thing.   He deserves every minute behind bars that he got and then some. 

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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2007, 03:18:54 PM »

It is possible, that Vick didn't fully realize what he was doing was as wrong as it was.

In Kentucky,Virginia,West Virginia etc, Sometimes u don't equate things the same way as others. I had friends back in Kentucky who were heavy into cockfighting, and it just never seemed like a big deal.? Dog Fighting is worse, but still, People are acting like he was filming child porn.

I think people would be less astonished and more forgiving if he did.? thats what bothers me.

You gotta remember it's not just the dog fighting, he was running an illegal gambling ring that spread across multiple states. Plus if he only got a six month sentence he would be back in the league next year (someone would sign him) and recoup a big chunk of the money he just rightfully lost.
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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2007, 03:38:08 PM »

the senseless inflicting of pain or death on innocent animals is horrible, sadistic and beyond cruel. 

I simply cant relate to anyone who feels differently.
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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2007, 04:05:07 PM »

? ? ?There are some looking at does the punishment fit the crime and others who look at race or being famous.? I think media has so much to do about it.? Vick and his brother have proven to be shit heads, yet we should remember that culture has a lot to do with the problems they face.? Ah Bullshit!? Both compared to myself led a charmed life.? Should Michael get 2 years when others get less?? Who knows?? I say yeah.? I don't care about the Vick family suffering financially and getting time for crimes committed.? They still have plenty of cash believe you/me.
? ? ?Do people care or compare these 2 stories?? The big woman who Isiah Thomas called a bitch (BTW I don't condone it but they're only words) getting 12 million dollars compared to a woman wrongly diagnosed with HIV/AIDS and being treated for 9 years until doctors realized that oops a mistake was made and that she never had it.? She also sued and was awarded 2.5 million.? Maybe thoughs 2 awards should be switched No?? Same stories of couldn't work lost friends and money, traumatized and looked at differently.
? ? ?That makes me wonder not Vick's self induced destruction.? ?
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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2007, 04:12:48 PM »

It really makes no sense. This could be about any dog breed.? You could start a cocker spaniel dogfighting ring and what would make it any different from pitbulls fighting??

I know I'm going off track a little here, but dont tell me if you bread pitbulls to fight and I bread hotdogs it would be fair in the end.
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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2007, 04:31:50 PM »

If I were to eat your pure bred hotdogs, would that be a criminal offense or strictly civil?
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« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2007, 04:43:43 PM »

To Reitterate

I dont agree with Vick and Dogfighting

I also think its a horrible, almost unredeemable act.


However


Compared to what people get for what I consider to be worse crimes, I think he got a raw deal.
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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2007, 06:26:25 PM »

It is possible, that Vick didn't fully realize what he was doing was as wrong as it was.

In Kentucky,Virginia,West Virginia etc, Sometimes u don't equate things the same way as others. I had friends back in Kentucky who were heavy into cockfighting, and it just never seemed like a big deal.  Dog Fighting is worse, but still, People are acting like he was filming child porn.

I think people would be less astonished and more forgiving if he did.  thats what bothers me.


Ummmm, no.  Sorry, if Vick went all Gary Glitter he'd be in prison for a lot longer than 23 months, and rightfully so.  Also, there would be absolutely no question he'd be out of the NFL forever.  Yeah, there's a small chance he could get back in the NFL, but do I think it will happen?  Hell no. 

He totally screwed himself.  The dog-fighting, dog killing, illegal gambling, illegal drug use after he was warned not to, the lies.   D, he got off lightly.   peace
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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2007, 06:30:00 PM »

I just wonder how big businesses like Burger King and KFC can get caught skinning animals alive but people still have no problem scarfing down chicken and Whoppers, but Vick is the anti christ.


Seems a little hypocritical to me in a lot of ways.
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2007, 06:41:16 PM »

I think someone's been reading this thread....

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/14/baseline.killer.ap/index.html

 PHOENIX, Arizona (AP) -- A man accused of being the Phoenix Baseline Killer was sentenced to 438 years in prison Friday for the sexual assaults of two sisters.

Mark Goudeau still faces trial for the slayings of eight women and a man in 2005-2006, and faces a possible death sentence if he is convicted of those charges. He has pleaded not guilty.
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