WTTJ in Live Era album

[RaspAxl]

I know this 'Live Era re-record topics' has been already discussed million times
but I coudn't find any post about exactly the certain parts of WTTJ that had re-recorded
I've been listeng a ton of boots and new demos and think I can distinguish between 'Axl's old voice' to 'new one'
the lyrics below, bolded lyrics are re-recorded I think, for 100% sure
I wanna know what you guys think about this! thank you and excuse my bad Eng.


[Welcome To The Jungle] - Live Era '87-'93

Do you know where the fuck you are?
You're in the jungle baby!
Wake up! It's time to die! Yeah!

Oh my god....
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.........Cha!

Welcome to the jungle
We've got fun n' games
We got everything you want
Honey, we know the names
We are the people that can find
Whatever you may need
If you got the money, honey
We got your disease

In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Watch it bring you to your shun,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n knees, knees
Oh I wanna watch you bleed

Welcome to the jungle
We take it day by day
If you want it you're gonna bleed
But it's the price you pay
And you're a very sexy girl
That's very hard to please
You can taste the bright lights
But you won't get them for free
In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Feel my, my, my, my serpentine
I, I wanna hear you scream

Oh, oh

Welcome to the jungle
It gets worse here everyday
Ya learn ta live like an animal
In the jungle where we play
If you got a hunger for what you see
You'll take it eventually
You can have anything you want
But you better not take it from me

In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Watch it bring you to your shun,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n knees, knees
Oh, I wanna watch you bleed

And when you're high you never
Ever want to come down, so down, so down, so down
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no!

You know where you are
You're in the jungle baby
You're gonna die

In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Watch it bring you to your shun,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n, knees, knees
In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Feel my, my, my, my serpentine
In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Watch it bring you to your shun,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n,n, knees, knees
In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle
Watch it bring you to your
It' gonna bring you down-HA!

[Verse Chorus Verse]

On the subject on Live Era, I just bought it last night. Anyone know where Pretty Tied Up was sourced from?

[CheapJon]

On the subject on Live Era, I just bought it last night. Anyone know where Pretty Tied Up was sourced from?

it's from tokyo 92, the night they shot the DVD

[Wheres Izzy]

On the subject on Live Era, I just bought it last night. Anyone know where Pretty Tied Up was sourced from?

it's from tokyo 92, the night they shot the DVD

Yeah thats one of the only tracks on Live Era that doesn't sound like it was fucked with too bad. Some of it isn't even listenable. I don't know why they ruined that release like they did. They easily coulda just pulled some shit from the bootlegs almost everyone has (half from the ritz, half from oklahoma 92 or paris 92....) or something like that and it would have been one of the best live albums of all time. I listen to all my bootlegs 10 times as much as live era.

[cai666]

I think u are right about this, i read the lyrics you wrote while playing the song on my PC and its just like you said, you can notice the voice changes... i`ve never noticed that in this song in particuliar...

[Back Off Bitch]

I think Live Era is great... and Pretty Tied Up with fucked with just as much as the rest of them... All the vocals are re-recorded with the exception of when he says The Perils of Rock N' Roll Decedence...

[Voodoochild]

Zweifel, it makes complete sense. I never noticed how this song was touched up because I pay attention more to the guitar, but your analyse makes perfect sense to me after I heard it while listening to the song. Thanks for that!


ps: would you mind to do the same with some other songs?

[RaspAxl]

Nightrain, Mr.Brownstone, My Michelle, Pretty Tied Up, Move To The City, Rocket Queen, SCOM, November Rain - whole vocals are re-recorded but if you hear the scream 'aaaww' just like at 2:02 in Brownstone, it was left alone. Axl couldn't make the sound like that anymore

Used To Love Her : re-recorded after 3:22
Patience : first half and second are from different sources

[You Could Be Mine] :
I'm a cold heartbreaker
Fit ta burn and I'll rip your heart in two
An I'll leave you lyin' on the bed with your ass in the air
I'll be out the door before ya wake
It's nuthin' new ta you
'Cause I think we've seen that movie too
aaaww

'Cause you could be mine
But you're way out of line
With your bitch slap rappin'
And your cocaine tongue
You get nuthin' done
I said you could be mine
aaaw

now holidays come and then they go
it's nothin' new today collect another memory
when I come home late at night
don't ask me where I've been
just count your stars I'm home again
aaaww

'cause you could be mine
But you're way out of line
With your bitch slap rappin'
And your cocaine tongue
You get nuthin' done
I said you could be mine

you could be mine X 4 mine, mine, mine

you've gone sketchin' too many times
why don't ya give it a rest
why must you find
another reason to cry

while you're breakin' down my back n'
I been rackin' out my brain
it don't matter how we make it
'cause it always ends the same
you can push it for more mileage
but your flaps r'wearin' thin
and I could sleep on it'til mornin'
but this nightmare never ends
don't forget to call my lawyers
with ridiculous demands
an you can take the pity so far
but it's more than I can stand
'cause this couchtrip's gettin' older
tell me now long has it been
'cause 5 years is forever
an you haven't grown up yet

you could be mine
But you're way out of line
With your bitch slap rappin'
And your cocaine tongue
You get nuthin' done
I said you could be
you should be
you, you could be mine
yeah!


Yesterdays : not re-recorded but at end of the song, Axl's 'yesterdays...' whispers are removed.

Estranged : whole vocals are re-recorded but only 'When I jumped into the river'part at 6:50 were left alone.
there's one thing is funny. Estranged had taken from Tokyo 1992.02.02 as you know.
take a listen at about 9:00, he sung 'BUT everything I'VE ever known is here' in Tokyo and 'SEEMS everything WE'VE ever known is here' in Live Era.
but both are wrong. because corret lyrics are 'BUT everything WE'VE ever known is here' 

[slashisvr]

just listend to WTTJ

you have a good ear for it, while it was quite hard to tell the diffrence, i always thought it was completly live, i thought it was one of the tracks that didnt get fucked with, but yeah, i see wjhat you mean.

i wish he just fuckin left it as it was, the whole fuckin album, but axl is a genius as we know, and he knows best 

[RaspAxl]

yeah. including me, most people dissapointed about Live Era was re-recorded. Axl is a perfectionist and that perfection was not reflected in Live Era as 'perfect live' but as 'perfect mix'.

but think differently, we can get his 'new' voice on the record anyway.

[Limulus]

thanks for this deeper look into "fake era"-album, much appreciated!! maybe some fans can get more into this subject??

the sad and weird part is that one of the greatest rock bands of all time hardly has released anything 'real' live...

[RaspAxl]

thanks. I'd like to give a more details of it but can't because of my Eng. skill.
(anyone who can read Korean, check this out)
btw, I always love the DVDs you've released, Limulus

[OreGunsNRoses]

thanks for this deeper look into "fake era"-album, much appreciated!! maybe some fans can get more into this subject??

the sad and weird part is that one of the greatest rock bands of all time hardly has released anything 'real' live...

couldnt agree more. They should have released the ritz 88 with some of the paris 92 show or something. Live Era is so phony

[Michael]

I knew from the very first moment I heard the Live Era cd that it was re-recorded, and I thought it was Axl's way of releasing some of the rehearsals they made in the studio - since it was officially spoken about in interviews, that they'd rehearsed and re-recorded the album - but because of the trials and Axl getting sued he couldn't release anything official under the GN'R name. At the time with all the discussions some people refused to believe that it was re-recorded - just the way the 1999 version of SCOM - you can hear almost the same way he sings on the live era version except it's changed a bit. I suspect the Big Daddy version is just a sampled version of the real re-recorded SCOM!

But it's nice to see some people finally getting the picture - but being this said, all in all it is a very cool recording, but not entirely, because of his over"raspy" voice (sounds like he's cold or stuffy in the nose or something in most parts) - the high pitched parts are just way cool!

If only GN'R or Axl could pull himself together and gather all recorded GN'R shows and releas them, no matter how bad they may be - they can only be better than some of the shows that's available on the internet - only difference, is that it's nice to pay for a real legal show, rather than be forced to get it here on the internet!

[faldor]

thanks for this deeper look into "fake era"-album, much appreciated!! maybe some fans can get more into this subject??

the sad and weird part is that one of the greatest rock bands of all time hardly has released anything 'real' live...

Yeah it's kind of funny Slash mentions in his book how he used to listen to live albums of bands he liked growing up.  He thought that showed how good they really were, and he said how he was so excited and proud when GNR released their own live disc.  Although, I guess HIS parts or the music at least wasn't touched up?  Just the vocals?  Still kind of defeats the overall purpose as a live performance.

[zombux]

I'm pretty sure guitars were also touched up...

[Adler_Sorum_Brain]

Live Era is not a real album, live should be live.

[faldor]

I'm pretty sure guitars were also touched up...

If so, not sure why Slash was so proud and excited about it, since it wasn't truly a LIVE album.

[OreGunsNRoses]

I dont think the guitars were really touched up much, if at all. Listen to Gilby/Izzy on the beginning of YCBM, he comes in too early