Baz "axl really wanted CD out this year"

[Verse Chorus Verse]

Axl: "Hmm...I'm planning on dinner at a fancy restaurant tonight. Got any suggestions Baz?"

[Ines_rocks!]

I?m beginning to think that CD will be out like in 50 years time when someone finds the record in Axl?s house or something and puts it out lol... 

[Clau]

Come to the Argentine

[marknroses]

Come to the Argentine

I guess rerecording the vocals for the entire album must have taken Axl all this time (last 2 years).
I mean, his voice was weaker on earlier demos, but has come together in more recent performances and Demos.
If only Axl would open up more about the process, there wouldn't be all this BS on the message boards and among fans.

MNW

[GNRreunioneventually]

ya know when this happened last year i said well hopefully we'll see it in '07. So i guess now i'll just say hopefully we'll see it in '08


Mysteron:

not to be hasty or be an asshole but how would you know? what is your affiliation with the band these day? are you still in the loop?

[horsey]

now here we go like a  whirl wind yay.something to grasp at some straws ?

[gunns1]

ya know when this happened last year i said well hopefully we'll see it in '07. So i guess now i'll just say hopefully we'll see it in '08


Mysteron:

not to be hasty or be an asshole but how would you know? what is your affiliation with the band these day? are you still in the loop?

I was just thinking the same,
Is Mysteron still in the "know"?

Cause, if its up to the record label now and its in their hands,
then really, anything that mysteron says can only be taken with a grain of salt... unless he is in direct contact with axl/s close family

The label is probably the one calling the shots,
as alot of people on here think...

[NicoRourke]

Thank you Pinball Wizzard for the scenario. And as always, thankx Mysteron for providing us a few informations.

[CheapJon]

Mysteron:

not to be hasty or be an asshole but how would you know? what is your affiliation with the band these day? are you still in the loop?

his affiliation with the band is the same as a year ago.. do you still think merck is mysteron

[masterrecorder]

I think the album didn't come out because of the leaks of MSL in May. The leaks did hurt the management and GN'R in a way that delays the album now.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

i read somewhere that the United Nations really thought that axl plan was bringing democracy in china, so they listed it as a future resolution, but china is vetoing it at the security council. That is the "business thing" in the way. Axl is waiting at the UN headquarters, but they dont let people in with blue or green suits

[Janabis]

It's a shame that Axl cancelled the end of the 2006 tour to put his 'finishing touches' on the album, since he could have taken all the time in the world to do that now and it didn't make the album come out any faster. The cancellations accomplished nothing other than upsetting the fans who wanted to see those California gigs. Oh well.

[DeN]

a single for christmas would be a great gift...

[sjgotnitro]

I mean all this in a nice way.

This really sucks big time.

I mean the words :nothing is being planned at this time" is not a good thing. it appeared everyone was trying and has been trying to get this album out. Not saying they are still not or hoping to, but those words almost make it seem like the obsticles at the moment are too great. My gut tells me GNR and the label are taking a break on this till after the holidays and then giving it another shot. Bad news is that could mean another 9 plus months of wait.

I respect this board and Jarmo, GNR and everybody, but i think it is about time somebody says something in an official capacity.? Axl is the man, yea there will be haters, but he needs to keep GNR in peoples minds. As time slips by GNR becomes more of a thing of the past to the common man.

It is a damn shame for everybody invovled. maybe the fans need to speak louder then ever before.? Think of everyone invovled in the band, this must be killing them. I hope they know the fans are still behind them.

But if GNR speak no matter how minor the fan base will strengthen. 

[Robman?]

They NEED to further explain the business thing that has gotten in the way the last 15 years.  I would love to know exactly what that is.

Based on EVERY OTHER BAND that REALLY wants to put an album out, it is really not that difficult. If you want proof, walk into your local record store. The business goes something like this. write music and lyrics, record, submit to record co. or if you have the cash, do it yourself, market it and release it. WOW! so hard to do.

You would think it's that easy, but it's not.

Please explain, because I don't know.

I don't know exactly how it works in the USA because these rules and steps aren't the same on every country, but, let me try...

Yes, what you said is basically the bottom line. To release an album you have to write songs and lyrics, record them, submit to a record co and it's basically it.

But there's a lot of legal things that have to be done when the band is as big as Guns N' Roses.

When an album is edited, every song has it's register code, it's like It's ID. When this song is played on the radio, TV shows or something like that, it generates money. This money is collected by a performance rights organization, like ASCAP, that sends the money to the company that edited the album and for the musicians that are registered on that organization too.

The songs of the album will generate money. Every single one involved with the songs have their % of the profits those songs are gonna make. The musicians have to be registered on any performance rights organization, like ASCAP for example...but what if not every member of the band is registered on the same performance rights organization?

For example: Let's say that Robin Finck is registered on ASCAP, but all the other guys are registered on SESAC. I don't know, but maybe this can be a problem.

And I'm just pointing one legal problem regarding all the business involved on release a big record. I'm pretty sure that this is just the tip of the iceberg...

Sorry, but your post makes not sense. It not that hard for Robin or anyone of the guys to go online and sign up to one of those organizations. Plus, its not like something as trivial as that would prevent a release.

[bazgnr]

does this mean it wont be out this year for xmas ??

Nothing is scheduled right now

any idea if it will be scheduled in time for a x-mas 2008 release?

I'm sure the intention is to release the new album as soon as possible.

As for now though, nothing is scheduled or planned.

That's comforting, I suppose.  Maddening all the same, but still, comforting.  Ever the optimist, I'll take "As for now, nothing is planned" rather than "nothing is planned for the next year."

That's for offering up what you can, Mysteron.  It's truly appreciated.

[guns_n_motley]

well, you can probably say then forget January/februaryif nothing is planned as of now...hopefully by next summer we will have the cd. but who knows...

[CheapJon]

just because nothing is planned right now doesn't mean that stuff will never be planned

maybe they start planning tomorrow

and records out the 6th march. that would pretty much own

[masterrecorder]

In the open letter last year ( ) Axl said: March 6th, but he didn't give us the year: Maybe he meant 2008 all the time? Could that be? I'm serious!

but... no... there was the "Chinese Democracy Update" and so on... sorry, forget my idea 

[cybercurves]

It's a shame that Axl cancelled the end of the 2006 tour to put his 'finishing touches' on the album, since he could have taken all the time in the world to do that now and it didn't make the album come out any faster. The cancellations accomplished nothing other than upsetting the fans who wanted to see those California gigs. Oh well.

Very good point!