Baz "axl really wanted CD out this year"

[jarmo]

Yeah, doesn't really have an excuse for that one. Cancels shows to finish album yet announces more dates...and it's still not out. Sad thing is though, i'm not really that surprised...

How do I put this nicely for all the sensitive people....

He did finish the album when he said he was gonna finish it.

The tour was added after he had finished recording the album.

So instead of "just" trying to get the album out since January, they toured and worked on getting it out. I think that without the 2007 tour, this year would've been more frustrating.


It's always easy to point fingers afterwards when you know what happened. But in order to reach the tentative release date, the album had to be finished then.

You probably think the tentative release date was some kind of joke?

Obviously it didn't happen and we haven't heard of a new date since. It's not exactly hard to figure out that it could be because Axl isn't gonna announce a new date only to have it pass due to things that are out of his control.




/jarmo

[Luigi]

But is it right that some have to be so angry and that things like what Axl says are held like as if the next breath was promised. No! Whatever is going on is none of our Biz. But like the rest of you, I'll be there and buy it when it comes...     

[Luigi]

yea but at the end of the day, It Is What It Is... and that cool with me

[gnrjanus]

I'm going with Jarmo,  You b*tch to much.

We got an great year 2006)  the 2007 tour was also great, they played songs that weren't played like in 15 years.

The album is finished, even a fool can read that.

You wanna hear AXL ROSE  in STUDIO shape,  BUY Sebastian bach Angel down.  Yes that's right, he didn't lie when he said you'll hear music.
it's right in your local music shop on that disc. 3 songs with Axl rose, and still your not happy?

the tour finished great this year. yeah it's to bad the album didn't come out, but what can we do about it nothin' it's not even in axl's hands right now.  so stop blaming him. it's stupid people blame other people that aren't in controll anymore a shame!

for this album to come out, it'needs heavy promotion,  megazines to come in, interviews w axl or axl and band, some performances on jay leno, or other shows.

sure nothin'is planned. why not? I don't know.
stop wining, and buy angel down if you want to hear Axl say anything to you!

[masterrecorder]

Everything is okay, when there are updates regarding the state of CHI-DEM. Now, we don't know anything and that is frustrating. Other bands have got blogs on their website, with videos from the studio, pictures etc.

"The album is handed in"

or

"We're sorry, but we must announce, that "[] problems" stop the whole process. We cannot say when the process will go on."

This would help all the fans.

I know, that CHI-DEM is not a "normal album" and it is not possible to do some things, that other bands do. But the big silence is unnecessary. One year ago, Axl promised to inform us. And now? Nothing

[Luigi]

things change and things happen so fast like the writers strike, fires, change of contracts, law suits, personal, etc...
I think we could be looking at CD info sometime hopefully after the New Year. I'm still thankful for the tour we were so lucky to attend this past year. I pray 2008 is a better year for all.   

[cybercurves]

The problem is that as each month (and eventually year) passes by, we are inching closer to the release of CD.  On the other hand as time goes on, it seems like it's drifting away.  This tug-o-war is what is causing so much speculation and confusion. 

[ppbebe]

One year ago, Axl promised to inform us. And now? Nothing

did he?

what about two years ago?

[chriskon72]

 2007 was cool except they didn't come to south america.

 ? I'm really sorry, I come here everyday but I don't remember hearing Axl say "the record has been given to the record company". Many people say and use as a defence in other discussions "It's not true till you hear it from Axl" on many different topics. So did I miss out on this one?

[ibelieveinaxl]

Yeah, doesn't really have an excuse for that one. Cancels shows to finish album yet announces more dates...and it's still not out. Sad thing is though, i'm not really that surprised...

How do I put this nicely for all the sensitive people....

He did finish the album when he said he was gonna finish it.

The tour was added after he had finished recording the album.

So instead of "just" trying to get the album out since January, they toured and worked on getting it out. I think that without the 2007 tour, this year would've been more frustrating.


It's always easy to point fingers afterwards when you know what happened. But in order to reach the tentative release date, the album had to be finished then.

You probably think the tentative release date was some kind of joke?

Obviously it didn't happen and we haven't heard of a new date since. It's not exactly hard to figure out that it could be because Axl isn't gonna announce a new date only to have it pass due to things that are out of his control.




/jarmo

we can talk and discuss the reasons why it is not out, who is to blame, etc. and we continue to do that for years, me included. the bottom line is simple: the album is not out. we can continue to argue about it and if that keeps some peeple busy, then that's fine. but let's not forget the only fact that matters: the album is not out.

[cybercurves]

Going by what this post is all about.... I agree with what Baz said that Axl really wanted the CD out this year... ?I believe Axl and the whole band want this album to come out just as much as we want to hear it. ?They've labored over and over with recordings and changing of musicians over the years. ?Not only that, we're finding out that there will probably be a lot of guest musicians on the album as well. ?It's just too bad it didn't come out as planned, but we all know shit happens and plans change. ?Once it does come out we'll all be singing a different tune, lol.

 

[Limulus]

...the 2007 tour was also great, they played songs that weren't played like in 15 years......

as GN'R it was only "Nice Boys" and "Don't Cry" which kinda was played on guitar all over 2006 allready.

You wanna hear AXL ROSE? in STUDIO shape,? BUY Sebastian bach Angel down.? Yes that's right, he didn't lie when he said you'll hear music.......

that Axl "people will hear music this year"-promise was in januar 2006, nearly 2 years ago right now.

[GeraldFord]

2008 will be the year...it fits the pattern:

AFD- 87 (odd year)
Lies- 88 (even)
(UYI)- 91 (odd)
(TSI?)- 93 (odd)
(Live era) 99 (odd)

So it's about time for another even year release...right?

[whiny]

a reason for the delay and an exact relaease date being given would be nice. waiting for three more years, i don't mind, if cd will really be out by then. i just wanna know when. it's like i had been waiting for a train that was late for 5 minutes in the beginning. then i heard it's some more minutes, maybe hours or days till it would arrive. ok, so i had myself some beers, i even managed to sleep there, meet people and have a life. then, after years i became wiser, i went home and only showed up in the evening, looking if the object of my desires and obsessions was eventually coming. it never did. maybe i should spend my evenings doing better stuff. but then again, this magic train could take me on the musical journey of my life. call me a fool, but as long as i hear rumours about it coming, i'll be there.

[*Timothy*]

I feel they plained on having the thing out this year. But like life thing pop up and change all the time.

[gav]

Jarmo, I agree with what you're saying and it makes alot of sense.

But surely you have to agree that some sort of communication with the fans would prevent alot of the negativity from people on the boards, and dare I say, the media.

[jarmo]

Jarmo, I agree with what you're saying and it makes alot of sense.

But surely you have to agree that some sort of communication with the fans would prevent alot of the negativity from people on the boards, and dare I say, the media.

In a perfect world, yes.

Unfortunately this world is far from perfect.

Anything you say can, and most likely will be, used against you.

Need an example? The last tentative release date.


People didn't even understand the simple facts that the tentative release date was what the band was aiming for when Axl wrote the letter. In order to get the album out, he had to finish it. Hence the canceled shows in January. Now I see certain people saying the cancellations weren't needed....





/jarmo

[GNRreunioneventually]

Mysteron:

not to be hasty or be an asshole but how would you know? what is your affiliation with the band these day? are you still in the loop?

his affiliation with the band is the same as a year ago.. do you still think merck is mysteron

well i thought he was and if not my bad, but still, what is his affiliation with the band?

[bazgnr]

2008 will be the year...it fits the pattern:

AFD- 87 (odd year)
Lies- 88 (even)
(UYI)- 91 (odd)
(TSI?)- 93 (odd)
(Live era) 99 (odd)

So it's about time for another even year release...right?

I think I'm missing something.  What's the pattern?

[Janabis]

People didn't even understand the simple facts that the tentative release date was what the band was aiming for when Axl wrote the letter. In order to get the album out, he had to finish it. Hence the canceled shows in January. Now I see certain people saying the cancellations weren't needed....





/jarmo

Why not play the shows as scheduled and finish the album some other time? The cancellations didn't make the album come out any faster. He could have just worked on the album right now in December 2007 since nothing else is planned or scheduled (as Mysteron pointed out).