Errors in Slash's book (list only, discussion in the other thread)

[mrlee]

this was an intersting find
http://www.bringbackglam.com/journal/2007/11/25/billy-rowe-talks-the-glam-years.html

BBG: Do you know that Jetboy is mentioned several times in the new Slash autobiography?

BR: Yeah. That?s a very interesting question. We played L.A. Friday and Las Vegas Saturday. A good friend of ours, he?s 25, a huge fan of the band?he helps us out. Anyway, I stayed at his place Friday night and he was like ?I got the Slash book.? I looked at it?and I just knew. I guarantee we?re in that in bits, pieces and good size chunks. It?s like history repeating itself all over again.

BBG: Well, it seems like Slash was a big fan.

BR: Yeah. It?s really interesting. Fern read the whole thing on the way to Vegas and back. It so personal because Todd (Crew, bass) died and was fired from the band due to substance abuse, mainly alcohol. We tried to get our manager and the band?we were buddies, two bands connected at the hip. Actually, Fernie and I knew Axl and Izzy before Guns n? Roses even formed and then once we got our bands going?well, Hollywood Rose was hanging on by a thread. Axl was like ?Dude, I got a new band, let?s start doing shows together.? Me and Izzy were pretty tight?it?s kind of funny. We were the two that introduced Todd to Guns n? Roses and got that whole connection going. You know, Todd ended up just looking at different things? a lot of partying. When Todd joined Jetboy, he wasn?t that much of a partier. It got to the point where we went to Guns n? Roses and said ?Todd is going to die. He?s bad off, you need to something.? They were like ?Todd?s fine. We all party. You guys are tripping.? We didn?t know what to do. We were meeting with labels, our producer was making comments that he was cheating the band?we were a team. It was a hard decision ? and to this day I don?t know if it was the right decision ? but from that day on, the two of us - Jetboy and Guns n? Roses - were at war. Six months later, Todd was dead. Todd?s family went after Slash. They hired a private investigator and all this stuff. Guns n? Roses started badmouthing us all the way to the top. They became the biggest band in the world. A year later, they fired Steven Adler for the same reason. Is it the pot calling the kettle black? I say yes all the way around. It?s very personal. I think they have guilt. They know we went to them. He was only 20 years old. He was doing too much and he died. It?s a shame. When I read the book?there?s a lot of stuff that isn?t true. It bothers me. Slash wants the last laugh.

BBG: What is untrue?

BR: First thing, he gives us props, but then he says ?I didn?t like the band very much.?

BBG: Well, he doesn?t like glam.

BR: Well, I?ve got photos of that guy wearing lipstick, huge hair and fishnets up his arms. Whatever. He says stuff like ?Their lead singer had a Mohawk so that makes them less transparent, like Poison.? Earlier in the book?he talks about auditioning for Poison while he was still in Guns n? Roses! He contradicts himself. He says he doesn?t like glam but he auditioned for the glam band that was doing the best at the time because, obviously, he wanted success. When he says that he didn?t like the band, that isn?t true. We were all friends, we all supported each other. Axl used to trip on Mick. Mickey used to wear the chaps, then Axl started wearing the chaps. The whole overdose situation that Todd died in Slash?s arms?and that he (Slash) swears someone else was there and gave him some bad dope. Todd wasn?t very experienced. The bottom of the line is the guy OD?d and they revived him and then they put him back in bed. What kind of idiot doesn?t call for paramedics right away? From what I know, the truth is, after he OD?d and they revived him, Slash panicked and left. They (Guns n? Roses) came back they found him dead, and that was their alibi. It makes complete more sense than him dying in Slash?s arms when he?s high as a kite on dope, probably facing possession, and he got not one charge, nothing. There?s definitely some loopholes in the story.

BBG: So after Todd died, you never had anything else do with Guns n? Roses?

BR: After Todd was out of the band, they were headed toward their trouble. They wanted to fire Axl ? several times ? before they even did a record. We all had issues with singers (laughs). I kept up with Izzy (Stradlin, original rhythm guitar for Guns n? Roses) he?s the guy who definitely started separating himself from the band?especially when they started to get success. I remember we got thrown out of a (Guns n? Roses) show in the bay area. [Jetboy] had just moved back to San Francisco?in like 1991 and we were pretty good buddies with Skid Row. They were touring with Guns n? Roses. We went to hang out at the show and we were backstage?and here comes Axl walking by. Mickey said ?Hey Axl, what?s going on?? We kind of did have a make-up thing. They made a public apology at the Cathouse one night (in 1988), but we didn?t hang out like we used to. They were blowing up so big they were always on the road. Ten minutes later, I saw some crew guy?go up to Skid Row?s guy and whisper in his ear and I just knew. That crew guy talked to Rachel (Bolan, Skid Row bassist) and he was like ?What?!? and he came over and said ?Dude, you?ve all got to leave. Axl said he won?t go on until Jetboy is out of the venue.? I was like ?You?ve got to be fucking kidding.? He really just wanted us out of backstage. The funny thing is they had given us fifth row seats, so it was almost like a slap. ?Get out there and watch what you ain?t got.? The next day I ran into Izzy on Haight Street?me, Mick and Rachel and my sister were all there shopping around. My sister was like ?Hey, there?s Izzy!? I was like, ?Fuck that!? and I walked out the door, but before I could get out of the door, he started yelling my name. He said ?Dude, I?m so sorry about yesterday. I had nothing to do with that. You know it?s not me. If you want to come tonight, you can be my personal guest it?s totally good?? Once that happened, I knew it was all Axl and it was all over Todd. He was never around. He was always in his own world. It was another drama situation for him to embellish and be a part of?to use his wackiness. I never understood that.

well this is something i hadnt heard of...

[mrlee]

the whole interviews at the link.

[leatherebel]

Page 237 says GN'R Lies was released November 29, 1988.

According to amazon.com and htgth, it was released on November 30 (Wed)....

[Megaguns]

does anyone think that we will get a second edition of the book? with the mistakes sorted out?

just the obvious ones

[jarmo]

does anyone think that we will get a second edition of the book? with the mistakes sorted out?

just the obvious ones

Mistakes? There's no mistakes!

I'm just an asshole and Slash hater!

 



/jarmo

[SpiritDave]

does anyone think that we will get a second edition of the book? with the mistakes sorted out?

just the obvious ones

Mistakes? There's no mistakes!

I'm just an asshole and Slash hater!

 



/jarmo

  Well ... Erm... hehe.

I don't really care about these inaccuracies ... and in all honesty... if Axl had written with the same mistakes (believe me ... if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either   The overall story is what interests me

[jarmo]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either   The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....





/jarmo

[Fingers]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either ? The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....





/jarmo

Is Slash the only Rock Star who did a lot of drugs?

[jarmo]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either   The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....





/jarmo

Is Slash the only Rock Star who did a lot of drugs?

Is this a serious question?

I mean, if you're really serious about it, maybe you can explain why you're asking......




/jarmo

[Fingers]

You seemed to emphasize it in his overall story-I'm not sure what the point was-he wrote a book about it

Don't mean to be sarcastic, but if you think Slash is less of a person because of addiction, you should reconsider because a lot of great artists have suffered from the same thing including Shannon Hoon, Kurt Kobain, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis Presley, as well as people from the GNR family including Wes Arkeen and Izzy Stradlin.

[Alan]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either ? The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....


/jarmo

could be worse, it could be like anthony keidis' book, got laid, got high, got laid, got high, got laid got high. and thats about it.

[spaghetti_incident]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either ? The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....





/jarmo

And why do you automatically assume Axl's book would be error free even if he did his "fact checking?"

[jarmo]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either   The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....





/jarmo

And why do you automatically assume Axl's book would be error free even if he did his "fact checking?"

Did I say so?

Did I?

Look at the word in capitals in the post I was replying to before answering.

Thanks. 



/jarmo

[r3dhawk6]

Page 237 says GN'R Lies was released November 29, 1988.
According to amazon.com and htgth, it was released on November 30 (Wed)....

Oh my fucking god, nooooooo!!!!!?

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.
Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?
Here's the overall Slash story:

Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab...

/jarmo

Um, actually there are a couple factual errors in the above summary but, it would be silly to point them out.

Anyway, its obvious Slash and/or his life story as it were is not really your cup of tea.? And that's cool.? Different strokes for different folks.? But why do you have to take your indifference a step further by trying to ruin it for the many fans that do admire/appreciate him (imperfections and all)?? If you did indeed have anything credible to say the direction you take totally disqualifies your statements especially to Slash's supporters.

[jarmo]

Anyway, its obvious Slash and/or his life story as it were is not really your cup of tea.  And that's cool.  Different strokes for different folks.  But why do you have to take your indifference a step further by trying to ruin it for the many fans that do admire/appreciate him (imperfections and all)?  If you did indeed have anything credible to say the direction you take totally disqualifies your statements especially to Slash's supporters.

I read a lot of biographies. Some are great, others aren't.

But when I read books about GN'R, it's a subject I know more about than many other artists/bands.

So obviously the conditions are different if I'm reading something related to GN'R or if it's just a band I might know very casually. Like for example Motley Crue.


I know some of you are upset. I still believe that if this book was unofficial, like that Izzy book fraud a while back, people would be pointing out the errors.




/jarmo

[leatherebel]

Page 324 says UYI1 sold more copies than UYI2. I believe it was the opposite. Same thing with the order of debuting on the album chart.

[leatherebel]

Page 350 says the Metallica/Guns tour to start July 7, 1992. It started on July 17. The correct date can be deduced 5 pages later.


Sorry if these mistakes are mentioned in the other thread - too long to go thru now, but I don't see them listed in the first post on this thread.

[leatherebel]

Page 451 he says he checked himself into rehab on July 3, 2006 and did full 30 days.
As far as I remember there was a mini summer VR tour July 21-30, 2006. I don't remember it being cancelled either. So, that date is probably wrong again.


I give up, every time there is a date mentioned in this book, chanced are it is wrong....

[spaghetti_incident]

if he writes one, there will be a LOT of factual errors like these), I'd not care either ? The overall story is what interests me

Axl, Axl, Axl.

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

Here's the overall Slash story: Born in Hampstead, moved to L.A, rode bikes, stole, played guitar, did drugs, picked up a guitar, started playing in bands, stole, did drugs, joined GN'R, did drugs, did drugs, did drugs, died, married, did drugs, Snakepit1, did drugs, quit GN'R, met Perla, divorced, Snakepit2, did drugs, almost died, got married, got kids, VR, did drugs, rehab....





/jarmo

And why do you automatically assume Axl's book would be error free even if he did his "fact checking?"

Did I say so?

Did I?

Look at the word in capitals in the post I was replying to before answering.

Thanks.?



/jarmo

You said this:

Assuming Axl writes a book one day, why do you automatically assume that he'd put his name on a book without any fact checking?

You are implying that Axl's book would be perfect if he wrote one.? Truth is, any member of Guns n' Roses who puts out a book is going to have errors in it.?

You really need to stop this obsession you have with trying to make Slash look bad.

There are plenty times in the book too where he dotes on Axl and do you think those are errors too?? Funny or coicidence or ironic that you don't seem to notice the good points of the book and how for example, Slash was touched that Axl bailed him out of jail that one time or how he and Axl had tight personal conversations and how Slash had Axl's back when he had a run in with Stump, the biker from the St. Louis incident.

Fact is, if the only thing you can point out are factual errors then that actually makes Slash look better because the editor is the one you should have the issue with and not Slash.?

I hope Slash reads this thread and puts out an "error and ommissions" book just in your honor.

Seriously, give it a rest already.? Quit acting like you know more than Slash does.? You were not a member of Guns n' Roses and you weren't there to witness what went down.?

[jarmo]

You are implying that Axl's book would be perfect if he wrote one. 

No I'm not.

If I thought it would be 100% error free, I'd say so. 

I'm implying that it might not have "LOTS of errors" as SpiritDave assumes. 

You really need to stop this obsession you have with trying to make Slash look bad.

Obsession?

I think he's doing a pretty good job of that himself.....

I'm just commenting on things he has said and written about in his book.

I'm not making shit up about him or his band.

There are plenty times in the book too where he dotes on Axl and do you think those are errors too?  Funny or coicidence or ironic that you don't seem to notice the good points of the book and how for example, Slash was touched that Axl bailed him out of jail that one time or how he and Axl had tight personal conversations and how Slash had Axl's back when he had a run in with Stump, the biker from the St. Louis incident.

I did notice those things.

I was actually waiting for somebody to give Axl credit for bailing out his new band mate when his old friends didn't seem to give a fuck.

You did, but only to "prove" that Slash is a nice guy for writing it!

Fact is, if the only thing you can point out are factual errors then that actually makes Slash look better because the editor is the one you should have the issue with and not Slash. 

Yes, many of the errors, mainly typos, can probably be blamed on the editor.

But considering the book has Slash's name on it, I wonder if he didn't read any manuscripts and approved them before they went to the printer....

Maybe he didn't, considering he allegedly bought a house without seeing it?

Seriously, give it a rest already.  Quit acting like you know more than Slash does.  You were not a member of Guns n' Roses and you weren't there to witness what went down. 

Where did I claim to have been in the band or know more than he does? Could you kindly point me in the direction of that post please? This seems to be the tactic some of you use. "You weren't in the band".

I bet there's a lot of people who weren't present in World War II, but they know a shit load about it...



Your idea of "you weren't in the band so you don't know anything" is pretty lame.

I can read! And see that his stories don't match up with what actually happened or when it happened.


I'm glad you're here to defend your hero and attacking me once again when it's been shown that Slash's version of this event isn't exactly the truth.


Oh, and don't act all innocent with me....



/jarmo