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Re: The Slash autobiography thread
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Quote from: faldor on December 08, 2007, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: JimBobTTD on December 08, 2007, 10:47:57 AM
Funny, what? Like he amuses you? Like he's a clown? Like he's a clown here to amuse you? How the f**k is he funny? What the f**k is so funny about him!
I'm just sayin' he's funny.? You know, like the way he tells a story.
Nice one! Glad you got the quote.
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if even Duff says it...
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Quote from: DeN on December 08, 2007, 11:47:08 AM
if even Duff says it...
yeah that's really bad as i recall duff saying that he don't remember anything from the UYI tour and shit like that.. I also think that duff has said that
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he'll ever write an autobiography he'll ask matt about the UYI tour since he has a great memory or something.. (or he's just great at lying so people believe it
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Quote from: faldor on December 08, 2007, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: JimBobTTD on December 08, 2007, 10:47:57 AM
Funny, what? Like he amuses you? Like he's a clown? Like he's a clown here to amuse you? How the f**k is he funny? What the f**k is so funny about him!
I'm just sayin' he's funny. You know, like the way he tells a story.
lmao thanks for that one it gave me a laugh.
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Quote from: DeN on December 08, 2007, 11:47:08 AM
if even Duff says it...
Yeah, the thing is he is asked what he thought of the book and he says "he has a worse memory than I do." I don't know how else you can interpret that other than he remembers things inaccurately. I mean, you can't say someone has a bad memory because they included certain events in the book and not others. That's editing and content selection, not bad memory.
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Quote from: Missy on December 07, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
I do not post much..I just linger. I knew slash many years ago and he does have a very, very, very poor memory of the past. There are many things in his book that are totally wrong. The Todd Crew story being one of them. I knew Todd well and know the exact circumstance of how he died. I was told by Slash himself. Todd did not die as it is told in the book. It is was very upsetting to me because it made Todd look like some sort of looser. After I read that part, I put the book down. He either does not remeber people correctly duor he is just flat out lieing (sp?).
I do not recall ever seeing Slash NOT on any sort of substance. So I think he was just also so loaded he does not remeber things correctly.
By the way, I am mentioned in the book....2 years before I ever met him. Just on that alone, I do not believe 100% of any thing he says int the book. It is either totally false or a half truth.
Just my 2 cents
Interesting points.....
Duff's "he has a worse memory than I do" comment is also interesting.
Is that just a nice way of saying "don't believe everything you read in it"?
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Quote from: elmir on December 08, 2007, 11:01:34 AM
considering there are two threads on the same topic here, i'll post this in both.
delete one, if you feel you must, admin...
well, here's one which confused me:
in his book, Slash said that they ran into Adrianna Smith in NY because she was there visiting some friends at the same time, so they hooked up, and the whole Rocket Queen recording thing happened. He says that she was sleeping with Axl for a whole week already in NY, and that when it came down to recording the parts, he was all for it, and even helped them set up the scene.
In Marc Canter's book (Reckless Road), she says that Slash invited her to join them in NY, and since she had friends there, she did. She also (in my understanding of it) implied that Slash had no clue about her stint with Axl, and called her up the next day
after
he heard the recording, demanding that she comes to the studio and explain herself, because she cheated on Steve, who was his best friend.
So according to that statement, Slash wasn't even aware of the idea for Rocket Queen, let alone present at the studio for the recording.
not sure whose take to believe on this one. Also in his book, he refers to her as Adriana Smith, and in Canter's book she is referred to as Adriana Smith on one page, and as Adriana Durgan on the other page. Maybe she married later or whatever, but it was never said, which just confused the shit out of me.
I aksed this on the thread about Marc Canter's book and got this answer.
One question about the book though. Adriana Dunken(sp) and Adriana Smith, they are both said in the book to be the girl in Rocket Queen. So it is the same person with a married and maiden surname or is it a mistake ?
it's the same person, she changed her last name.
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Re: The Slash autobiography thread
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Quote from: jarmo on December 09, 2007, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: Missy on December 07, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
I do not post much..I just linger. I knew slash many years ago and he does have a very, very, very poor memory of the past. There are many things in his book that are totally wrong. The Todd Crew story being one of them. I knew Todd well and know the exact circumstance of how he died. I was told by Slash himself. Todd did not die as it is told in the book. It is was very upsetting to me because it made Todd look like some sort of looser. After I read that part, I put the book down. He either does not remeber people correctly duor he is just flat out lieing (sp?).
I do not recall ever seeing Slash NOT on any sort of substance. So I think he was just also so loaded he does not remeber things correctly.
By the way, I am mentioned in the book....2 years before I ever met him. Just on that alone, I do not believe 100% of any thing he says int the book. It is either totally false or a half truth.
Just my 2 cents
Interesting points.....
Duff's "he has a worse memory than I do" comment is also interesting.
Is that just a nice way of saying "don't believe everything you read in it"?
/jarmo
Kind of sounds that way, doesn't it?
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Quote from: lynn1961 on December 09, 2007, 08:59:41 PM
Quote from: jarmo on December 09, 2007, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: Missy on December 07, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
I do not post much..I just linger. I knew slash many years ago and he does have a very, very, very poor memory of the past. There are many things in his book that are totally wrong. The Todd Crew story being one of them. I knew Todd well and know the exact circumstance of how he died. I was told by Slash himself. Todd did not die as it is told in the book. It is was very upsetting to me because it made Todd look like some sort of looser. After I read that part, I put the book down. He either does not remeber people correctly duor he is just flat out lieing (sp?).
I do not recall ever seeing Slash NOT on any sort of substance. So I think he was just also so loaded he does not remeber things correctly.
By the way, I am mentioned in the book....2 years before I ever met him. Just on that alone, I do not believe 100% of any thing he says int the book. It is either totally false or a half truth.
Just my 2 cents
Interesting points.....
Duff's "he has a worse memory than I do" comment is also interesting.
Is that just a nice way of saying "don't believe everything you read in it"?
/jarmo
Kind of sounds that way, doesn't it?
What do I know? I'm just an asshole who hates Slash.
Never mind if the people who were there think Slash's book is full of half truths, lies and errors......
/jarmo
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Oh wow. Didn't think you'd get so touchy! The thing is I do tend to take, more seriously, what someone says, who really was "there". No offense intended, really......
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Quote from: lynn1961 on December 09, 2007, 09:14:07 PM
Oh wow. Didn't think you'd get so touchy! The thing is I do tend to take, more seriously, what someone says, who really was "there". No offense intended, really......
No I'm not. I was joking.
I just find it amusing how I get attacked for pointing out the factual errors I found, I wasn't even there and I still found some.
Now, people who were there seem to think it's also got errors.... Stuff that most fans wouldn't know about.
Are the people who attacked me going call Duff an asshole and sad for pointing out Slash doesn't remember much?
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I wish the book would have focused a little more on musical journey vs. all this bs.
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Quote from: elmir on December 08, 2007, 11:01:34 AM
considering there are two threads on the same topic here, i'll post this in both.
delete one, if you feel you must, admin...
well, here's one which confused me:
in his book, Slash said that they ran into Adrianna Smith in NY because she was there visiting some friends at the same time, so they hooked up, and the whole Rocket Queen recording thing happened. He says that she was sleeping with Axl for a whole week already in NY, and that when it came down to recording the parts, he was all for it, and even helped them set up the scene.
In Marc Canter's book (Reckless Road), she says that Slash invited her to join them in NY, and since she had friends there, she did. She also (in my understanding of it) implied that Slash had no clue about her stint with Axl, and called her up the next day
after
he heard the recording, demanding that she comes to the studio and explain herself, because she cheated on Steve, who was his best friend.
So according to that statement, Slash wasn't even aware of the idea for Rocket Queen, let alone present at the studio for the recording.
not sure whose take to believe on this one. Also in his book, he refers to her as Adriana Smith, and in Canter's book she is referred to as Adriana Smith on one page, and as Adriana Durgan on the other page. Maybe she married later or whatever, but it was never said, which just confused the shit out of me.
Adriana Smith is Adriana Durgan. Durgan is her married name. She is now divoriced. I know her well.
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Quote from: lynn1961 on December 08, 2007, 10:24:38 AM
As for Duff - when asked what he thought his reply was "I think he's got a worse memory than I do".
Anyone that wants to see it -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pd6rYXntac4?
? it's at about 8:29
That was cool. Duff is right on.
The book needs to be considered fiction. It is a total joke.
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Quote from: Missy on December 11, 2007, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: lynn1961 on December 08, 2007, 10:24:38 AM
As for Duff - when asked what he thought his reply was "I think he's got a worse memory than I do".
Anyone that wants to see it -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pd6rYXntac4?
? it's at about 8:29
That was cool. Duff is right on.
The book needs to be considered fiction. It is a total joke.
At the very least, you cannot consider it doing anything of the "record straightening" sort. You have to have your facts straight in order to set the record straight.
After reading what you wrote and then the coup de grace of what Duff said, the book has lost a ton of credibility for me, and I hope for others. At least, in the sense of it being an accurate account, or record-straightening account of what happened with GN'R.
Sure, Slash can still explain his feelings and whatnot, but the underlying events leading to how he felt seem hazy at best now.
Say whatever you want, but Duff has no incentive to say what he did other than it being the truth about Slash's book.
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I have seen it referred to as a memoir not an autobiography more now.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on December 11, 2007, 11:57:43 PM
I have seen it referred to as a memoir not an autobiography more now.
This is the definition of memoir I've seen:
A memoir is a piece of autobiographical writing, usually shorter in nature than a comprehensive autobiography. The memoir, especially as it is being used in publishing today, often tries to capture certain highlights or meaningful moments in one's past, often including a contemplation of the meaning of that event at the time of the writing of the memoir. The memoir may be more emotional and concerned with capturing particular scenes, or a series of events, rather than documenting every fact of a person's life
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Based on that definition, I would agree that memoir is more appropriate.
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I found this interesting..,
The lines are fine, but they are lines nevertheless. We need to differentiate between memoir (a particularized focus on memories, feelings and recollections) and autobiography (recalling one?s own life and times), between a roman a clef (telling the tale the way the author would have liked it to have gone) and autobiographical fiction (a novel based on the life of the author).
Readers and writers need to be able to make the distinction between ?fact? and ?remembered fact?
, ?fiction? and ?fictionalized biography.?
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And the Stephen King story where the past is eating up in people's heels is The Langoliers and not the Tommyknockers!
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Just got book. Can't wait to read. Some amazing photos.
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