Where Do Guns N' Roses Stand In the History of Rock N' Roll?

[XxWickeds10xX]

Right now, this incarnation of the band doesnt have a place in R&R history. WHat have they done? The original lineup has a secure place in R&R history, up thier with bands like Sabbath, Zepplin, Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, and even the Beatles. Time can only tell for the 'new' GnR.

[r3dhawk6]

the "new" version of the band...unfortunately as hard as it is for some people to accept, the world @ large considers GNR in the past tense, its non-existent for the most part so their place in rock history will be an afterthought
the original version has already earned their spot in rock history although it will always be considered too short-lived

[Gargh!]

The thing about Guns N' Roses that made them great was the attitude.  I don't think there is a word for it in English, but in Scots we'd call them "gallus".  Perhaps in this context "swagger" would come close.  Meh, Scottish people will know what I mean. 

Anyway  - that swagger they had was just great.  Zep, AC/DC, Aerosmith and of course GnR had that "gallusness" to just rock and strut on a stage like they owned the damned place.  The sleaze, the fire...indie killed off so much of that.  It seems that too many bands want to take themselves too seriously, to sound as vulnerable as they can with slow piano ballads and accoustic guitars that stifle the life out of their music.  Piano ballads etc. are not bad things in themselves, of course (in small doses, I think) but can anyone say that anything they've heard from Keane or Coldplay gives them the same buzz as Ace of Spades or Whole Lotta Love?  The problem is that eveyone wants to be Pink Floyd and nobody wants to be Led Zep. 

To bring this to the point of the thread, I think that the "new" GnR will only regain their place among rock's greats if they can throw off the shackles and just rock.  Or rather, if people in general notice that this has happened, since we all know fine well they can do it. 

If they can just go out and slay (on record as well as on tour) in a way that lets the world at large know they are back, they will get back to where they once belonged.

[SamBob1]

did the public accept David Lee Roth's solo career? Did the public accept Aerosmith when Perry was out of the band? hell even hagar Van Halen was never fully accepted....

They were still pretty accepted though... By most people anyways. They did better than most bands that tried without the original band members... (speaking in terms of VAN HAGAR.) XD

[The Dog]

did the public accept David Lee Roth's solo career? Did the public accept Aerosmith when Perry was out of the band? hell even hagar Van Halen was never fully accepted....

They were still pretty accepted though... By most people anyways. They did better than most bands that tried without the original band members... (speaking in terms of VAN HAGAR.) XD

VH didn't become a joke till gary cherone came on board.

history will view the new band well if they sell millions and millions of records and sell out gigantic stadiums.  it all comes down to how good CD is.  if they are shit to average it could actually tarnish the rep of the appetite guns...

no matter what though they can never escape the shadow the old band - they are just too iconic/amazing.

[Grasshopper]

GnR will be put up with bands and artists such as Elvis, Nirvana, the Beatles. They came out at the right time. Their influence is felt and continues to be felt to  this day. Gnr Haven't put out an album in a very long time yet their legacy lives on. Hopefully the general public will be accepting of CD when it comes out. They will be a shoe in for the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

[jaypayton]

van hagar was accepted for themost part but DLR's solo career tanked after  his 2nd solo record...

[Irish gunner II]

GnR will be put up with bands and artists such as Elvis, Nirvana, the Beatles. They came out at the right time. Their influence is felt and continues to be felt to? this day. Gnr Haven't put out an album in a very long time yet their legacy lives on. Hopefully the general public will be accepting of CD when it comes out. They will be a shoe in for the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Speaking of the HOF, the original band is eligible for induction from 2012 onwards. If they are selected to be inducted in 2012, in all seriousness and forgeting the talk of reunions, how do people think it will all pan out when they are inducted,if not in 2012 but in the years that follow. I hope the members of the original line up(whoever turns up) give a good account of the band.

[faldor]

GnR will be put up with bands and artists such as Elvis, Nirvana, the Beatles. They came out at the right time. Their influence is felt and continues to be felt to? this day. Gnr Haven't put out an album in a very long time yet their legacy lives on. Hopefully the general public will be accepting of CD when it comes out. They will be a shoe in for the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Speaking of the HOF, the original band is eligible for induction from 2012 onwards. If they are selected to be inducted in 2012, in all seriousness and forgeting the talk of reunions, how do people think it will all pan out when they are inducted,if not in 2012 but in the years that follow. I hope the members of the original line up(whoever turns up) give a good account of the band.

I hope it wouldn't be as much of a disaster as Van Halen at the HOF this past year, but I have a feeling it will be.

[Irish gunner II]

GnR will be put up with bands and artists such as Elvis, Nirvana, the Beatles. They came out at the right time. Their influence is felt and continues to be felt to? this day. Gnr Haven't put out an album in a very long time yet their legacy lives on. Hopefully the general public will be accepting of CD when it comes out. They will be a shoe in for the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Speaking of the HOF, the original band is eligible for induction from 2012 onwards. If they are selected to be inducted in 2012, in all seriousness and forgeting the talk of reunions, how do people think it will all pan out when they are inducted,if not in 2012 but in the years that follow. I hope the members of the original line up(whoever turns up) give a good account of the band.

I hope it wouldn't be as much of a disaster as Van Halen at the HOF this past year, but I have a feeling it will be.

I have the same feeling as yourself. I mean they might suprise us, but I doubt all the line up will be all together to accept it. And I would assume it would be Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven that would be inducted ? That's another problem I see.

[Gargh!]

It's a lot of nonsense to suggest that GnR have influenced all the metal bands of today.  I sure as hell heven't heard any trace og GnR music in Wintersun...  That sounds to me like exactly the kind of crap that MTV would come out with.