Velvet Revolver takes the stage at Smirnoff without any bullets

[FunkyMonkey]

Empty chamber: Velvet Revolver takes the stage at Smirnoff without any bullets

ROCK REVIEW: Velvet Revolver takes the stage at Smirnoff without any bullets

12:00 AM CDT on Friday, September 28, 2007

By MIKE DANIEL / The Dallas Morning News

Velvet Revolver may finally be out of ammunition.

A hefty chunk of the rock world expected that scenario much earlier than this, though. And that collective mindset ? a veritable self-fulfilling prophecy, if the effect is valid ? may be why the supergroup is faltering like it did Thursday night at Smirnoff Music Centre.

Exhibit A: the attendance, which couldn't have topped 6,000. This show should have been held at Nokia Theatre, especially with two opening acts (a resurrected and droll-sounding Alice in Chains and post-prog upstarts Sparta) with limited drawing power. As calm and shellshocked as the crowd was, Smirnoff felt as drained and deserted as it has in recent memory.

Exhibit B: sales of Libertad, approaching 300,000 after nearly three months on the street. VR's debut, Contraband, moved that many copies in a little more than a week in 2004 (and Libertad is a better album in almost every respect).

Exhibit C: history, as in its propensity to repeat itself. Singer Scott Weiland's psychological and chemical issues are well-documented, as is his inconsistency onstage. The former didn't appear to be a direct issue (he's reportedly been sober for a while now), but the latter reared up nastily Thursday.

Mr. Weiland's voice was harsh, craggy and severely limited. He couldn't be heard during deep-timbred verses on "Sucker Train Blues" and a spare and punked-up cover of Stone Temple Pilots' "Vaseline," and he couldn't hold notes on "She Mine" and the act's current single, "The Last Fight." He lost his place in a post-solo "Vaseline" verse, too, and his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees.

His kicker was the evening's only Guns N' Roses cover (and a surprising one at that): "Patience," which is as prototypical a voice-showcasing sleaze-rock ballad as any. Mr. Weiland was trying; you could see it in his mirrored aviator-shrouded face. But all he did ? and the band didn't help by electrifying the denouement ? was demonstrate that the song should remain Axl Rose's to sing.

The set's only blessed grace was guitarist Slash, whose occasional butchering of a lead run ("Patience") was quickly forgotten with the delivery of a sublime one ("Superhuman"). The grimy and salacious grooves he and bassist Duff McKagan supplied on some numbers ("She Mine" and "Get Out the Door," which is Libertad's best cut) hinted at what VR is capable of (and has delivered, most recently here at Ozzfest in 2005).

But transitioning from the constrained beauty of "Patience" directly to the smarmy squalid boogie of "She Builds Quick Machines" takes talk, not 40 seconds of black-lighted, back-turned silence. Mr. Weiland: Adore your audience please, even if it was smaller and quieter than you likely expected.

Velvet Revolver played its 2004 hit "Fall to Pieces" two-thirds of the way through its 90-minute set. It should have saved it for last.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/stories/DN-velvetrevolver_0928gl.ART.State.Edition2.4318808.html

[Ines_rocks!]

Well... guess the guy liked the show a lot  . This quote of Mr Daniel (whoever he is) is remarkable: "his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees." lol ok...

[Genesis]

his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees." lol ok...

Ha. That made me laugh.

[Robman?]

pretty harsh review, must suck going through life being that cynical.

I saw em last night, it was amazing, best concert I've been to all year.

[FunkyMonkey]

pretty harsh review, must suck going through life being that cynical.

I saw em last night, it was amazing, best concert I've been to all year.

I think that is part of what he is saying...

Exhibit C: history, as in its propensity to repeat itself. Singer Scott Weiland's psychological and chemical issues are well-documented, as is his inconsistency onstage. The former didn't appear to be a direct issue (he's reportedly been sober for a while now), but the latter reared up nastily Thursday.
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[Fingers]

Now they are bashed for only playing 1 gnr cover? Too funny

[FunkyMonkey]

While in Dallas...

Velvet Revolver, Tommy Lee hook up at the ZaZa

08:53 AM CDT on Monday, October 1, 2007

By ALAN PEPPARD/ Staff Writer

Oh, to have a video camera and an MTV producer. When the supergroup Velvet Revolver and M?tley Cr?e drummer Tommy Lee wound up together at Hotel ZaZa last week, there were enough high jinks for a season's worth of reality-TV programming.

For those not in the know, Velvet Revolver is made up of three Guns N' Roses alums ? Slash, Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum ?plus Stone Temple Pilots lead singer Scott Weiland and Wasted Youth guitarist Dave Kushner.

Mr. Sorum and Mr. McKagan got acquainted with the local scene by riding their Harley-Davidsons through Highland Park. Slash opted to stay in bed until drifting down to the Dragonfly restaurant for dinner at 1 a.m.

Tommy, can you hear me?

But things really began to percolate when band members bumped into Mr. Lee in the ZaZa hallway. The ex-Mr. Pamela Anderson and unintentional porn star made immediate plans to hang out and party with Velvet Revolver.

They all took in treatments and manicures in the ZaSpa while the champagne flowed.

In the Last Czar Suite, Mr. Lee hosted an intimate birthday party for a female companion. Birthday cake and 200 balloons were complemented by three bottles of Krug champagne. Then, Tommy and friend took the ZaZa limo (the "Magic Carpet Ride") to Smirnoff Music Centre for the Velvet Revolver concert. By 1 a.m., they were back at Hotel ZaZa, where the tattooed drummer hit the pool for a late-late-night dip.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/wfaa/stories/DN-peppard_1001gl.ART.State.Edition1.4251bde.html

[Robman?]

anyone got a review from the gig on the 28th?

[NicoRourke]

Mr. Weiland's voice was harsh, craggy and severely limited. He couldn't be heard during deep-timbred verses on "Sucker Train Blues" and a spare and punked-up cover of Stone Temple Pilots' "Vaseline," and he couldn't hold notes on "She Mine" and the act's current single, "The Last Fight." He lost his place in a post-solo "Vaseline" verse, too, and his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees.

Aouch

His kicker was the evening's only Guns N' Roses cover (and a surprising one at that): "Patience," which is as prototypical a voice-showcasing sleaze-rock ballad as any. Mr. Weiland was trying; you could see it in his mirrored aviator-shrouded face. But all he did ? and the band didn't help by electrifying the denouement ? was demonstrate that the song should remain Axl Rose's to sing.

Again, like said in another thread, VR should drop Patience from their setlist. The band is doing fine, of course, but Weiland just can't make justice to the song.

Seems like VR is in trouble.

[Butch Français]

Mr. Weiland's voice was harsh, craggy and severely limited. He couldn't be heard during deep-timbred verses on "Sucker Train Blues" and a spare and punked-up cover of Stone Temple Pilots' "Vaseline," and he couldn't hold notes on "She Mine" and the act's current single, "The Last Fight." He lost his place in a post-solo "Vaseline" verse, too, and his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees.

Aouch

His kicker was the evening's only Guns N' Roses cover (and a surprising one at that): "Patience," which is as prototypical a voice-showcasing sleaze-rock ballad as any. Mr. Weiland was trying; you could see it in his mirrored aviator-shrouded face. But all he did ? and the band didn't help by electrifying the denouement ? was demonstrate that the song should remain Axl Rose's to sing.

Again, like said in another thread, VR should drop Patience from their setlist. The band is doing fine, of course, but Weiland just can't make justice to the song.

Seems like VR is in trouble.

because of this Mike Daniel? dream on....

[snakepipero]

Empty chamber: Velvet Revolver takes the stage at Smirnoff without any bullets

ROCK REVIEW: Velvet Revolver takes the stage at Smirnoff without any bullets

12:00 AM CDT on Friday, September 28, 2007

By MIKE DANIEL / The Dallas Morning News

Velvet Revolver may finally be out of ammunition.

A hefty chunk of the rock world expected that scenario much earlier than this, though. And that collective mindset ? a veritable self-fulfilling prophecy, if the effect is valid ? may be why the supergroup is faltering like it did Thursday night at Smirnoff Music Centre.

Exhibit A: the attendance, which couldn't have topped 6,000. This show should have been held at Nokia Theatre, especially with two opening acts (a resurrected and droll-sounding Alice in Chains and post-prog upstarts Sparta) with limited drawing power. As calm and shellshocked as the crowd was, Smirnoff felt as drained and deserted as it has in recent memory.

Exhibit B: sales of Libertad, approaching 300,000 after nearly three months on the street. VR's debut, Contraband, moved that many copies in a little more than a week in 2004 (and Libertad is a better album in almost every respect).

Exhibit C: history, as in its propensity to repeat itself. Singer Scott Weiland's psychological and chemical issues are well-documented, as is his inconsistency onstage. The former didn't appear to be a direct issue (he's reportedly been sober for a while now), but the latter reared up nastily Thursday.

Mr. Weiland's voice was harsh, craggy and severely limited. He couldn't be heard during deep-timbred verses on "Sucker Train Blues" and a spare and punked-up cover of Stone Temple Pilots' "Vaseline," and he couldn't hold notes on "She Mine" and the act's current single, "The Last Fight." He lost his place in a post-solo "Vaseline" verse, too, and his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees.

His kicker was the evening's only Guns N' Roses cover (and a surprising one at that): "Patience," which is as prototypical a voice-showcasing sleaze-rock ballad as any. Mr. Weiland was trying; you could see it in his mirrored aviator-shrouded face. But all he did ? and the band didn't help by electrifying the denouement ? was demonstrate that the song should remain Axl Rose's to sing.

The set's only blessed grace was guitarist Slash, whose occasional butchering of a lead run ("Patience") was quickly forgotten with the delivery of a sublime one ("Superhuman"). The grimy and salacious grooves he and bassist Duff McKagan supplied on some numbers ("She Mine" and "Get Out the Door," which is Libertad's best cut) hinted at what VR is capable of (and has delivered, most recently here at Ozzfest in 2005).

But transitioning from the constrained beauty of "Patience" directly to the smarmy squalid boogie of "She Builds Quick Machines" takes talk, not 40 seconds of black-lighted, back-turned silence. Mr. Weiland: Adore your audience please, even if it was smaller and quieter than you likely expected.

Velvet Revolver played its 2004 hit "Fall to Pieces" two-thirds of the way through its 90-minute set. It should have saved it for last.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/stories/DN-velvetrevolver_0928gl.ART.State.Edition2.4318808.html

why in this forum people only put the negative reviews and ignore the good ones. It seems to me that There are a lot of people here wantin' the worst to the guys and i can't understand that negativity, you can like Vr or not but why so many negativity???

Come on guys let's discuss this (obviously if you want to discuss)


peace and keep on rockin' 

[NicoRourke]

Mr. Weiland's voice was harsh, craggy and severely limited. He couldn't be heard during deep-timbred verses on "Sucker Train Blues" and a spare and punked-up cover of Stone Temple Pilots' "Vaseline," and he couldn't hold notes on "She Mine" and the act's current single, "The Last Fight." He lost his place in a post-solo "Vaseline" verse, too, and his normally sinewy stage presence had all the grace of a 60-year-old ballerina with bad knees.

Aouch

His kicker was the evening's only Guns N' Roses cover (and a surprising one at that): "Patience," which is as prototypical a voice-showcasing sleaze-rock ballad as any. Mr. Weiland was trying; you could see it in his mirrored aviator-shrouded face. But all he did ? and the band didn't help by electrifying the denouement ? was demonstrate that the song should remain Axl Rose's to sing.

Again, like said in another thread, VR should drop Patience from their setlist. The band is doing fine, of course, but Weiland just can't make justice to the song.

Seems like VR is in trouble.

because of this Mike Daniel? dream on....

Not because of him but because the hype seems to be gone. Album is not doing well at all, Weiland is alienating a lot of people, show reviews are bad, etc ...

[NicoRourke]

why in this forum people only put the negative reviews and ignore the good ones. It seems to me that There are a lot of people here wantin' the worst to the guys and i can't understand that negativity, you can like Vr or not but why so many negativity???

Come on guys let's discuss this (obviously if you want to discuss)


peace and keep on rockin'?

Yes, to be honest, I hate that band.

They are not original, the music is just standard, I hate Weiland's lyrics and voice and his offstage attitude.

From the start they were pretending to be a badass rock n' roll band, dangerous and all that shit. Fact, they are not. Then you have all the GN'R bashing from Weiland and Sorum. Then you have two albums that are good (well atleast Contraband), but good is not enough when you have Slash and Duff in a band.

I could go on and on, about their attitude onstage, they look so appart, not a band.

Jesus, even their name is a joke. So you come from a band called GN'R and you name your new band VR ? Originality please.

But maybe I'm missing something. maybe someone could explain what is so great about that band (I'm serious).

I just don't see what's so great about them.

When I look at them I see washed up rockers, a bunch of poseurs. And I'm sad because of Slash and Duff, because of what they once were.

[CSS]

For fuck's sake...

He didn't like the show, why is that so hard to believe? It can happen to any band.

Don't bother reading it if it upsets you that much.

[SpiritDave]

why in this forum people only put the negative reviews and ignore the good ones. It seems to me that There are a lot of people here wantin' the worst to the guys and i can't understand that negativity, you can like Vr or not but why so many negativity???

Come on guys let's discuss this (obviously if you want to discuss)


peace and keep on rockin' 

Yes, to be honest, I hate that band.

his offstage attitude.

a badass rock n' roll band, dangerous and all that shit. Fact, they are not.
I could go on and on, about their attitude onstage, they look so appart, not a band.
I just don't see what's so great about them.

LOL!  You just described what some people think about another known band ....

[Jim Bob]

why in this forum people only put the negative reviews and ignore the good ones. It seems to me that There are a lot of people here wantin' the worst to the guys and i can't understand that negativity, you can like Vr or not but why so many negativity???

Come on guys let's discuss this (obviously if you want to discuss)


peace and keep on rockin' 

Yes, to be honest, I hate that band.

his offstage attitude.

a badass rock n' roll band, dangerous and all that shit. Fact, they are not.
I could go on and on, about their attitude onstage, they look so appart, not a band.
I just don't see what's so great about them.

LOL!  You just described what some people think about another known band ....

who would that be?  prolly nothing to do with velvet revolver tho eh?