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« on: September 07, 2007, 01:48:06 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 02:05:13 PM »

Anyone who believe the moon landing is fake needs to get laid.

I'm fairly sure such extreme paranoia is, at the least, an early sign of schizophrenia

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 02:15:14 PM »

^agrees....

and for all of you who doubt, here's a simple question....


do you honestly think USSR would keep their mouth shut if the landings were a fake?!
After all, those guys had the means to verify it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 02:29:21 PM »

Well, 40 years later NASA says they don't know how to do it anymore...
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 03:02:49 PM »

take a look at the movie "idiocracy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
that should make things clear Smiley




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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 03:39:13 PM »

^because unmanned probes are more useful and cost efficient than a dude with a shovel and a golf club bouncing around on the moon.
unlike man crafts, unmanned vehicles/moon satellites can stay on the planet/orbit longer, and gather more info.

and after the Columbia accident, and the psycho astronaut (the one with the dippers and killer instinct), do we really need those guys out there?

manned missions are a matter of prestige, and not science. Personally, I'm hoping that they'll start to work on "moonbase" project, rather than some random moon missions that serve nobody. ---we've already seen all there is to be seen on moon. now we need to start using it as a way to get to other places.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 03:47:10 PM »

I hate people who dont believe we landed on the mooon
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 03:59:58 PM »

I hate people who dont believe we landed on the mooon


I cant say i hate pepole that think it but it anoyes the shit out of me


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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 04:20:50 PM »

Question to those who believe we landed on the moon: Have you studied the details involved in a mission like this? Have you compared them to prior tests and capabilities of technology?

Or do you simply believe it 'because it was on tv?"
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 04:38:33 PM »

Question to those who believe we landed on the moon: Have you studied the details involved in a mission like this? Have you compared them to prior tests and capabilities of technology?

Or do you simply believe it 'because it was on tv?"

Have you studied those issues Polluxlm?  Are you able to understand them.  I sure as hell know that kind of physics is beyond me.  Or have you just watched a couple of videos and read some loosely binded papers by authors with no background or formal education in this matter?  Some one has already said it, but I will echo it.  The Soviet Union would have exposed the US had it not landed on the moon.  The entire operation was watched closesly from the ground and at space.  If the Soviets didn't debunk it, there was nothing to debunk.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 05:00:39 PM »

Well, that's the problem with the moon landings. You apply deductive reasoning, like you, it happened. You apply inductive reasoning it didn't happen.

So the conclusion is that one of them contains one or more flaws, and I doubt you'll find too many flaws in the laws of physics.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 05:20:14 PM »

whats next?
Paul McCartney died in 66?
Elvis lives?
Kurt Cobain killed?


some people are too paranoid!

but it is a cool study nonetheless
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 05:26:52 PM »

I don't see what those got to do with anything.
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2007, 05:37:25 PM »

conspiracy theories?

okey.. maybe not the Elvis and Kurt one.. heh..

but still, wild assumptions that you cant really confirm or deny....

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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 05:46:18 PM »

If you can't deny a theory, how do you know your theory is true?
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 05:54:28 PM »

haha..

well... good point.

it is a theory until proven wrong.

but damn.. i see i didnt read the whole thread :p so i dont really have anything to add now  Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2007, 04:37:13 AM »

Well, 40 years later NASA says they don't know how to do it anymore...

They don't. They decommissioned the Saturn 5 Rocket and the plans to build it were destroyed in a routine housecleaning of NASA documents. They don't know how anymore.

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2007, 06:59:14 AM »

I call Bullshit, Right when I'm trying very hard to learn a little humility, something like this comes along. I didn't bother to click the links because I have seen all that psuedo-scientific BULLSHIT before, and rather than waste my time in a futile attempt at providing refuting arguments to moronic theories, I will let someone else, who is much better qualified than myself anyway, refute the BULLSHIT. The Bad Astronomer aka Phil Plait does a very good job HERE

Sometimes I think the Buzz Aldrin approach might achieve better results.



They don't. They decommissioned the Saturn 5 Rocket and the plans to build it were destroyed in a routine housecleaning of NASA documents. They don't know how anymore.



Bullshit, where in the hell do you come up with this ... nevermind I already know.


If you can't deny a theory, how do you know your theory is true?

Theories are not denied, they are an accumulation of scientific evidence That support the postulates. When new evidence comes along, they are modified accordingly.


So the conclusion is that one of them contains one or more flaws, and I doubt you'll find too many flaws in the laws of physics.

Exactly, the Physics behind a moon landing are simple and hundreds of years old.

Question to those who believe we landed on the moon: Have you studied the details involved in a mission like this? Have you compared them to prior tests and capabilities of technology?

Or do you simply believe it 'because it was on tv?"

As a matter of fact, I have. Take any entry level Physics or Calculus class at your favorite University and some of the first problems you will encounter are orbital mechanics and trajectory motion.

The thing I find weird about landing on the moon is: Its so risky.
It's taken man much time and effort to launch from Earth and into space (with many failed attempts).
But to then contemplate landing on the moon, and then taking off again, almost seems suicidal.
(assuming the landing was for real) what if the luna module was damage while landing. The astronauts would have been stuffed.

It is a hell of a lot easier to land on the Moon than to re-enter Earths atmosphere ... Just curious, do you deny re-entry of the Shuttle ... or perhaps it's take-off?


 With todays technology, why don't they land on the moon more often. It would be interesing to see footage shot today, and compare it to that shot back in 1969.


It is a boondoggle, Why waste the money on ANY MANNED FLIGHT. The science that could be achieved would/is a thousand or more times greater for the buck. This whole going back to the Moon, and Putting men on Mars is a tremendous waste of resourses. It will take away from REAL science missions that have the possibility of making REAL discoveries.

Someone(Dim?) said somewhere that you don't want politicians deciding strategy for combat operations ... or something like that. It is true, and the same applies to space missions.

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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2007, 10:25:43 AM »

^^See above
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2007, 10:46:24 AM »

Yeah, aren't you the prime example of intelligence right now.
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