Last Fight Video

[Robman?]

I see no end to this argument, as everyones comments are taken out of context, or seen as hyopocritical in regards to what they've said before 

I think we can all agree its a relatively good video, not amazing by any means, its a pretty good song. Chances are it won't help VR sell a million copies, as some have suggested. It might be nominated for an award, but it probably won't win. Its just an average video, from a good band, that has done better.

If you're a fan of it, just enjoy it, it doesn't have to sell to be liked. And just cause it sells doesn't mean its good.

[hellfirecan]

^I agree with you.  It is a good video...not an amazing one.  It is a good song...not an amazing one.  I like both.  It seems many on here just revel in putting former members down and shitting on anything they do.  This shouldn't even be an argument.  It isn't even a healthy discussion.  It is like a school yard fight over who's dad is better.

[RageNirvanaNIN]

Way to take things out of context.

As usual, you have no clue about what I'm talking about. 


I guess a video like Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" sucks because it won a bunch of awards in 1992.

It's nothing compared to Last Fight.

Or Johnny Cash's "Hurt", which didn't win anything. It's nothing. Nobody has seen it or even recognized it as a great video.


But Velvet Revolver's "Last Fight". Now there's a model for all music videos. 




/jarmo

That was your whole idea , I didn't say it you did. You said usually they get awards , those videos did are they great and brilliant? Cash's hurt didnt get nothing does that make it a crappy video , according to jarmo logic it does,

[jarmo]

That was your whole idea , I didn't say it you did. You said usually they get awards , those videos did are they great and brilliant? Cash's hurt didnt get nothing does that make it a crappy video , according to jarmo logic it does,

What the fuck are you talking about?


I'm not saying winning awards makes a video great. I'm saying since you all claim this mediocre piece of video art is "brilliant" and "amazing", I expect it to get a lot of interest from people who aren't VR fans.

Who knows, maybe it'll make some "best videos of the decade" lists too.



People are throwing around words like brilliant way too often around Velvet Revolver. Obviously you don't agree with that since you're arguing. Or maybe you're arguing only because you don't understand anything said in this thread?




/jarmo

[RageNirvanaNIN]

That was your whole idea , I didn't say it you did. You said usually they get awards , those videos did are they great and brilliant? Cash's hurt didnt get nothing does that make it a crappy video , according to jarmo logic it does,

What the fuck are you talking about?


I'm not saying winning awards makes a video great. I'm saying since you all claim this mediocre piece of video art is "brilliant" and "amazing", I expect it to get a lot of interest from people who aren't VR fans.

Who knows, maybe it'll make some "best videos of the decade" lists too.



People are throwing around words like brilliant way too often around Velvet Revolver. Obviously you don't agree with that since you're arguing. Or maybe you're arguing only because you don't understand anything said in this thread?




/jarmo

You said great videos win awards. But obviously now you dont feel like that...

[jarmo]

You said great videos win awards. But obviously now you dont feel like that...

Are you really gonna argue with me that great videos never have won any awards?

Are you serious?


Of course great videos have won awards and I don't think I'm wrong if I predict that in the future some great videos will win even more awards.





/jarmo

[RageNirvanaNIN]

You said great videos win awards. But obviously now you dont feel like that...

Are you really gonna argue with me that great videos never have won any awards?

Are you serious?


Of course great videos have won awards and I don't think I'm wrong if I predict that in the future some great videos will win even more awards.





/jarmo

But a video winning an award doesn't make it great.

Therefore , VR not winning award doesn't make it any less of a great video.

[jarmo]

Nothing can change the fact that it's not a ground breaking video that stands out in any way among the rest of the videos that have come out in 2007.


I'm glad you're happy with this.

I just have standards.




/jarmo

[Smoking Guns]

I vote for Lock of this thread.

[Falcon]

Just like anything else artistic, it's all subjective.

If brilliance is seen for some, respect their opinion.

If someone thinks it sucks, respect theirs.

Semantic arguments never come to any mutually agreed conclusion, they only tend to reflect the participants pre conceptions and biases from their respective sides.

If you think the vid's great, cool.

If you think it blows, fine.

It's just a fucking video, they have had little impact on the business of music for quite some time now.

[GNR4L]

I think VR just really dropped the ball with this album now SBQM shouldn't of been a single it should of been Get Out The Door to start it off and now they really did themselves in with The Last Fight video this had the potential be a top 5 song but with ok video ( its better than SBMQ) but with Matt looking like little drummer boy and scott trying to play the piano I mean COME ON !!!

now if im RCA here's what I would of done

1. First single Get Out The Door
2. Last Fight ( they got one right
3. third single Mary Mary
4. GraveDancer

[Billo]

I really love the song the last fight. The video is good and i quite like it but Scott looks bad sitting on the piano it would be ok if he WAS playing but its just looks a bit odd for me.....i dident know there was piano in the song..
Scott should just keep on singing with the mic and doing the cool dancing he does..The rest of the videos fine with me..
I think after hearing this on the radio a few times people will LOVE it..I think its a great song.

[mikegiuliana]

This video is good, and it will make that libertad sells more

But its nothing spetial

Libertad is a bad record with borred songs

except for 2 or 3 songs maybe

And yeah, is so ridiculous matt talkin in "behind the music" about GNR
"i didnt come to a rock band for playing songs with a PIANO"
And now............................ well?

Not to harp but he joined gnr that did afd, that's probably the one he was expecting.. Just cause a piano makes it in a video to a group he's an original member doesn't prove anything or mean anything about what he said in BTM. What's he was joining in 90-91 isn't the same as what he's doing now as a player in his own band..
I agree the video is nothing spexial.. I think it's more artsy fartsy type shit scott likes and to him it's great.. Love when the band plays on stage... Maybe it's something like the white stripes,. simple and people love it.. There's tons of stupid videos out there like CLoser but peole like them, all individual tastes.. As long as the song rocks that's what counts for me..

[RageNirvanaNIN]

Nothing can change the fact that it's not a ground breaking video that stands out in any way among the rest of the videos that have come out in 2007.


I'm glad you're happy with this.

I just have standards.




/jarmo

Im happy with this and I have standards too. Sucks they don't meet yours doesn't mean you have to subject us to your constant bitching on vr but hey w.e.

[Robman?]

I think VR just really dropped the ball with this album now SBQM shouldn't of been a single it should of been Get Out The Door to start it off and now they really did themselves in with The Last Fight video this had the potential be a top 5 song but with ok video ( its better than SBMQ) but with Matt looking like little drummer boy and scott trying to play the piano I mean COME ON !!!

now if im RCA here's what I would of done

1. First single Get Out The Door
2. Last Fight ( they got one right
3. third single Mary Mary
4. GraveDancer

Mary Mary isn't a good choice, just sixteen would be better and it probably will be the next single.

[Mr Rage]

the video suits the song, stripped down, very simple, doesn't have to be groundbreaking. it just has to suit the song.

anybody notice at the end of the video, the rose in the piano!

whats that about?

[Demon Wolf]

And the red bandanas.... QUICK, SOMEBODY FIND A PAIR OF TIGHT SHORTS! 

[oldgunsfan]

Jarmo,. you're such a tool for Axl.....do you dream of him

Question: What do you do when your favorite bad ass rock n' roll band's tour is failing, the album doesn't sell, the new video is boring and the GN'R reunion you keep having wet dreams about isn't happening?

Answer: You try to find comfort in insulting others who don't share your miserable life or opinions.?



Please note: This GN'R mention and insult was once again posted by a "old GN'R fan" in the VR section. Who's ruining the threads for you....


/jarmo

find comfort in insulting others.....wtf are you talking about?

I don't insult GnR Fans.....

I may disagree with them on the merits of the re-tooled band based on the 10 or so tracks I've heard from them.....but to you, disagreeing is an insult?


the GN'R reunion you keep having wet dreams ....sorry bro, I don't get a hard-on for guys, only girls

and I don't have wet dreams about a GnR reunion.....or any other band for that matter....

but I am frustrated by the lack of new material from GnR because I do enjoy Axl's music and I think he may be apprehensive about releasing an album after 16 years....especially doing so under the GnR name......because he may have the legal right to the name, I think he understands the contributions to the name GnR the others have made....and the "legacy" they helped to create....

if thats an insult, oh well

as for the tone of your posts, they are far more insulting to other members than mine are, GnR or VR fans

[hellfirecan]

I find the childish name calling and constant put downs quite amusing.

Velvet Revolver fans cannot co-exist with New Guns n Roses fans.  It is against the laws of the universe or something. 

Just close the Velvet Revolver thread all together...it is quite obvious the "leader" of this site has a big hate on for the band, so gt rid of the VR forum.  Might as well...VR fans can't seem to engage in pleasant conversation about the band without someone hijacking it and spewing their disgust with the band,  Having it seems pointless...

[GeraldFord]

I think VR just really dropped the ball with this album now SBQM shouldn't of been a single it should of been Get Out The Door to start it off and now they really did themselves in with The Last Fight video this had the potential be a top 5 song but with ok video ( its better than SBMQ) but with Matt looking like little drummer boy and scott trying to play the piano I mean COME ON !!!

now if im RCA here's what I would of done

1. First single Get Out The Door
2. Last Fight ( they got one right
3. third single Mary Mary
4. GraveDancer

Mary Mary isn't a good choice, just sixteen would be better and it probably will be the next single.

next single?