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No the propoganda machine influencing young unformed minds!
Symbolism can have a very powerful effect, just look at modern advertising such as......You Tube....
BTW, that is a badge from 1918.......... the Polish Resistance highly commends the Finnish people (The Fins) and their efforts during WW2.
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What exactly are you saying?
That Neo Nazis will vanish if this is banned from YouTube?
I think not...
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Suppresion of polical dissent is one of the first signs of tyranny.
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Now, if we all had that attitude during WW2, where would we be today!
I'm talking about the effects on young, vulnerable minds and the power of multi-media internet advertising......!
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If we all had it in the 30's there would have been no WWll and the Weimar Republic might have regained control.
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Quote from: Sin Cut on August 29, 2007, 07:18:01 AM
Btw, here's the emblem the finnish airforces used in 1918
Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 07:21:57 AM
BTW, that is a badge from 1918.......... the Polish Resistance highly commends the Finnish people and their efforts during WW2.
There's always something inluencing "young minds".
If they're all into what Simon says, it's hardly 'cos of something they saw on youtube.
I doubt word nazi is very high anyway when they google.
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The Resistance taught me/brought me up to be ever vigilant....
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Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 07:31:09 AM
Now, if we all had that attitude during WW2, where would we be today!
I'm talking about the effects on young, vulnerable minds and the power of multi-media internet advertising......!
why should one care about people with vulnerable minds?!
if by any chance one day we build concentration camps for inbreeds and retards you wont have to waste time trying to find them.
all you'd have to do is gather up all the skinheads and rappers.
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Sorry, Resistance orders - that shit has got to go! (I mean these people would know about it, don't you think?)......
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in case you people didnt know, the videos have been removed from youtube yesterday...
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Funny that, I see it as 'freedom of speech' in action....
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I wonder...
who decides what is "kosher" to say, and what isnt?!
where is the "line"?
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Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 07:40:28 AM
The Resistance taught me/brought me up to be ever vigilant....
That's good, but I believe in combating ideas with better ideas, rather than censorship. If Nazism or any form of racism is a bad thing (duh!), then it should fail as an idea. Government needn't censor it.
Now, Youtube is privately owned, so if they want to take something down, then that's their prerogative.
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Learning about the history is one thing.
Promoting Nazi propoganda is something completely different and it is really not tolerated in any way shape or form.
Particularly on a mass communication tool such as the Internet....
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In my experience the Polish are alot more racist than Germans. Maybe clean up in your own court first?
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I don't think I have mentioned the word racist - I said "neo nazi propoganda".
If you read into Nazism you will find that it dabbles in something more sinister and evil than racism alone.
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Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 10:37:54 AM
Learning about the history is one thing.
Promoting Nazi propoganda is something completely different and it is really not tolerated in any way shape or form.
Particularly on a mass communication tool such as the Internet....
It's a thin line you walk, when you start banning those things with which you disagree. How many want to ban metal because it's "satanic," or GNR because it's got a pretty serious misogynistic streak? Having the propaganda film on YouTube IS history (despite Germany's efforts to gloss over that period). Does Germany want Shakespeare banned, too, for his unkind portrayal of Jews? Shakespeare is FAR more influential than some propaganda piece from the 40s could ever be, so how does that not "incite" young, easily influenced minds toward a racist ideology? There are vids of the Hiroshima bomb...does that mean that YouTube supports nuclear weaponry/war? Of course not.
I can, of course, sympathize with the fact that you find Nazism disgusting and dangerous. But censoring history or telling people what the can and cannot view, read, or think is not even close to the answer.
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Quote from: freedom78 on August 29, 2007, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 10:37:54 AM
Learning about the history is one thing.
Promoting Nazi propoganda is something completely different and it is really not tolerated in any way shape or form.
Particularly on a mass communication tool such as the Internet....
I can, of course, sympathize with the fact that you find Nazism disgusting and dangerous
. But censoring history or telling people what the can and cannot view, read, or think is not even close to the answer.
What a flippant statement to make.........Especially since I was raised and taught by Polish resistance members - people who witnessed the evil firsthand.
And you wonder why we still have wars......
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Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: freedom78 on August 29, 2007, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: stolat on August 29, 2007, 10:37:54 AM
Learning about the history is one thing.
Promoting Nazi propoganda is something completely different and it is really not tolerated in any way shape or form.
Particularly on a mass communication tool such as the Internet....
I can, of course, sympathize with the fact that you find Nazism disgusting and dangerous
. But censoring history or telling people what the can and cannot view, read, or think is not even close to the answer.
What a flippant statement to make.........Especially since I was raised and taught by Polish resistance members - people who witnessed the evil firsthand.
And you wonder why we still have wars......
First, I wasn't being disrespectful, even if you took it that way. I'm simply saying that I agree with your opinions that Nazism disgusting and dangerous, but not with the means by which you want to deal with it.
Second, it doesn't matter if you were raised and taught by Jesus Christ. I'm not arguing about the evil of Nazism, but about the value of censorship. Polish resistance members are no more qualified than anyone else to comment on that.
Third, did you just say that my viewpoint leads to wars? As in the failure to censor things with which you disagree (whether they're historical or the mediocre ramblings of a racist rock band) is the cause of war?
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Quote from: Sin Cut on August 29, 2007, 07:19:02 AM
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I'm talking neo nazi propoganda on You Tube! That shit needs to be banned.
That's how it all started in the first place!?
WW II started from youtube?
It was run by Joseph G?ogels I believe.
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