The last days of Kurt Cobain

[CSS]

Trent Reznor was the revolution. Nirvana was devolution.

Yeah, right.

Nirvana were a good band, even though they might have been overrated at times.

But people can't deny the talent of the trio that Nirvana once was.

[fuckin crazy]

Besides, this is a GN'R forum. Nirvana and GN'R don't mix,

What has that got to do with the price of eggs in China?

[norway]

Nirvana was as much responsible for the posers and bad music we got in the 90's as Guns'N'Roses was...
They just were concidered more relevant at the time and got the biggest following.

It's not just that, but a lot of important bands just died out/changed music or changed line-ups.

Motley Crue made an album called "new tatto" in 2000 I think, which should have been the follow-up to DR.Feelgood.
It wasn't that bad but people wanted to explore too.

[stolat]

Nirvana was as much responsible for the posers and bad music we got in the 90's as Guns'N'Roses was...

Did you just say that GN'R was responsible for bad music in the 90s?

[The Dog]

He wrote great lyrics, the music felt good and was very influencal as we gotten to learn. Not very overated imo

Sorry I have to disagree with you on the lyrics. I grew up a Nirvana fan and I think Kurt, while not a gifted musician, was a great songwriter and a really good singer. That being said, he had a couple lyrical gems here and there but in my opinion I could count them on one hand and still be able to tell someone "peace out" visually. His lyrics kind of started a trend in rock of stringing words together that are sometimes nothing more than sentence fragments.

Good point, I forgot about the nonsensical lyrics.  Just read some BUSH or STP lyrics and you'll know who to thank. so many alternative bands in the early-mid 90s just put out their one hits and will never be heard from again.  extremely lame time for music.

[fuckin crazy]

Nirvana was as much responsible for the posers and bad music we got in the 90's as Guns'N'Roses was...
They just were concidered more relevant at the time and got the biggest following.

It's not just that, but a lot of important bands just died out/changed music or changed line-ups.

Motley Crue made an album called "new tatto" in 2000 I think, which should have been the follow-up to DR.Feelgood.
It wasn't that bad but people wanted to explore too.

I don't want to "down buzz" on the younger generation, but, WTF does a teen know about posers? shit, educate me.

[stolat]

I learnt everything I know from Jimmy Dean...

[fuckin crazy]

Dayam!, you are old school.

[D]

"Im worst at what I do best"



One of the best lyrics ever and I don't give a shit what anybody says.

[fuckin crazy]

"Im worst at what I do best"



One of the best lyrics ever and I don't give a shit what anybody says.

One of my favorites is ... "Oh well, whatever, ... nevermind". It is like " yeah, well fuck you too, who gives a shit". Gotta love the apathy

[D]

A song no one ever mentions but "All Apologies" is one of the greatest songs also

[Wheres Izzy]

A song no one ever mentions but "All Apologies" is one of the greatest songs also

I think In Utero is a ton better than Nevermind, but I actually don't really care for "All Apologies" all that much.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

In Utero gets much of its coolness from Mr. Dave Grohl.

[Wheres Izzy]

In Utero gets much of its coolness from Mr. Dave Grohl.

Agreed. He plays his ass off on that album.

[norway]

I don't want to "down buzz" on the younger generation, but, WTF does a teen know about posers? shit, educate me.

Younger generations actually tend to stick to their own beliefs regardles of society opinion

The point was tho, if for example cinderella was inspired by Axl Rose...is it ok to hold Axl responsible for shit music and call him overated?
Nirvana created some great music and lyrics, thats enough for me

[Oddy]

I don't want to "down buzz" on the younger generation, but, WTF does a teen know about posers? shit, educate me.

Younger generations actually tend to stick to their own beliefs regardles of society opinion

The point was tho, if for example cinderella was inspired by Axl Rose...is it ok to hold Axl responsible for shit music and call him overated?
Nirvana created some great music and lyrics, thats enough for me

cinderella aren't shit.

 

[GeraldFord]

Yet another Kurt rules vs. Kurt sucks thread....

This is like soooooo 1997....

Kurt Cobain was many things:

-An elitist
-Arrogant
-Kind
-A gifted songwriter
-he revolutionized music
-he ushered in an era of crap that he himself would have despised

Every side here has a point. But I guess threads like this will go on forever.

For the record, in my opinion, if he were still living he'd be playing theaters with Billy Corgan.

[Natasha23]

Don't forget, Axl was even influenced by Kurt -- until Kurt started acting like a prick.  That whole incident made me feel real sour about Kurt Cobain.
Axl was trying to be so supportive of this new band and was really into what Kurt was doing, and then Kurt basically spits in his face. 

I used to love Nirvana, but actually lost interest when I started listening to GnR.  I came in on Use Your Illusion, right before November Rain was released as a single, than went backwards to Appetite for Destruction. 

About Cobain's death, I didn't like it when others (not in this thread) tried to portray Cobain as some martyr who died for rock n' roll.  The sad truth is he was a junkie suffering from severe depression who was too sick to get help.  And when you have a junkie wife that certainly is not going to help the situation.  But I used to get so annoyed about all his bitching about success, when he actively pursued it.  I think that's the real reason why he hated Axl -- because Axl was enjoying his success.  But that's just my theory.
 

[Natasha23]

why would anyone give a fuck about him.
he certainly didnt... why should I?!

I understand what you're saying. He is certanly not an examplo to anyone...choose the easy way out. I wonder how many nirvana fanatics killed themselves after this? Do you think it had that kind of impact?

If I can rememember correctly, a whole generation of then 14/15 years olds became rather 'lost/disenchanted/affected/fucked up' after that one.

I think that might be overstating just a bit.  I don't know how accurate it is to say the whole generation of young teens became messed up because of Kurt Cobain's death, at least to my recollection of my friends around me at the time.  I didn't know anyone else who cared about it.

But, after deaths of public figures and tragic events, statistics show that the suicide rates will spike a little, and after Cobain's death, the suicide rate did spike a bit.

[Adler_Sorum_Brain]

In Utero gets much of its coolness from Mr. Dave Grohl.

According to Dave himself, Kurt hated the drums on In Utero 

But i?m with you, he kick ass on that album --- Scentless apprentice