VELVET REVOLVER Confirmed For KROQ L.A. INVASION

[darth monkey]

Axl doesn't sing It's So Easy by himself most of the time, as for some of the other songs people have talked about like Breakdown he has never from what I've heard lowered his range anywhere close to the album performance in a live performance. I'm not arguing that he isn't a tremedously talented individual, simply stating that he is an individual and he would not perform on a lot of VR songs like Scott does and this argument of comapring the two is silly. Scott does a good job of the old Guns classics and they are fun to hear.

[Ali]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

Is this a joke ? Do you own a GN'R album ?

From down low to high pitched, Axl's range is like a fucking piano.

not live. on most live recordings of ISE, I can't even hear him. I mainly hear Tommy (I think) on live recordings from this lineup, and Duff from the old lineup. he doesn't have a very prominent lower range.

Tommy/Duff's harmony on ISE is higher than Axl's melody.  Listen to Axl talk.  He is a full-on baritone and can hit all those lower notes.  To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

Ali

[Ali]

I think the joke on this board is how great everyone thinks Axl is and that he can do anything. I'll get slaughtered for that but I don't really care. I'm an Axl fan he is a huge tallent but he's a person just like anyone else and doesn't deserve the God-like status that some of you give him. And as was just said Axl's range in the studio and live are two seperate things, and don't start to question me as to have I heard or listened to any of the material. I have all the albums and a ton of bootlegs and have seen them live.
Everyone sounds slightly different and I just don't see Axl pulling off Set Me Free as Scott did, just the way Axl does the end of Patience different than Scott. Vocalists are individuals and they are different, if they weren't music wouldn't be too exciting.

Range is range.  If you can hit a note in the studio, then you can hit it period.  The only variable is the amount of air supporting the voice, which is probably going to be less for Axl live because he runs around so much.

He can sing the verses in "Set Me Free", no problem.  That was my point.  Not all this crap about giving Axl God-like status.  It's not like Scott Weiland is Barry White for godsakes.

Ali

[Falcon]

It's all personal preference for me..

As for high end, I'd much rather listen to Axl's screech than anything Scott does in that range.

Low end's a different story, I prefer Scott's tone and richness to anything Axl has to offer in that register.

[Ines_rocks!]

It's all personal preference for me..


Low end's a different story, I prefer Scott's tone and richness to anything Axl has to offer in that register.

Well... I absolutely love Axl?s tone in Don?t Cry which I reckon to be quite low comparing to other Guns songs. Actually, the songs I like most to hear Axl?s voice are those where it is lower... like as I said Don?t Cry and Civil War.

[ppbebe]

A friend of mine often sings patience with other friends accompanying on acoustics, which I don't think so horrible. he doesn't go the high pitched bit but it's not as if he was in a cover band that people expect to sound as close to the old GN'R as possible.

[NicoRourke]

Well there's a difference between a cover band and a band that covers songs in his set

The cover band will try anything to stick to the original material. The band will deliver his own version of the song. But VR's version of Patience is not good on the vocal part.

[Ines_rocks!]

Well there's a difference between a cover band and a band that covers songs in his set

But VR's version of Patience is not good on the vocal part.

wow... you could try and say something different for once. Saying the same stuff in every post gets kinda boring you know...

[CSS]

wow... you could try and say something different for once. Saying the same stuff in every post gets kinda boring you know...

If that's the case, you're both doing the same thing.

What the hell happened here anyway?

It's supposed to be about Velvet Revolver's show at the KROQ L.A. Invasion.

[darth monkey]

This board is always the same crap. Lots of people at so narrow minded. I've said it before it's impossible to discuss anything with the majority of people cause if you say Scott does a decent job you are associated with calling him "Barry White" as some twit just described or you are dissing Axl. I'm with Falcon on the range preferences Axl does a great job in the high range and Scott in the low range. And you know what, that is personal preference and I'm entitled to that and not anybody, especially somebody on a board that only listens to one band is allowed to tell me what I should and shouldn't like and what I should and shouldn't feel when listening to music.

[Ali]

This board is always the same crap. Lots of people at so narrow minded. I've said it before it's impossible to discuss anything with the majority of people cause if you say Scott does a decent job you are associated with calling him "Barry White" as some twit just described or you are dissing Axl. I'm with Falcon on the range preferences Axl does a great job in the high range and Scott in the low range. And you know what, that is personal preference and I'm entitled to that and not anybody, especially somebody on a board that only listens to one band is allowed to tell me what I should and shouldn't like and what I should and shouldn't feel when listening to music.

Twit?? Very mature response.? Maybe you should re-read what I wrote a little more carefully because you grossly misinterpreted what I wrote.

You said Axl couldn't sing the verses in "Set Me Free".? He can.? He has the range and is more than capable of hitting those notes.? It's not like Scott is a true bass (a la Barry White) using the lower part of his voice, making it difficult for anyone, Axl included, to sing his vocal parts.? That was my point.

No one ever said you couldn't have your preferences as to vocal tone or what you should and shouldn't like.? ?

Ali

[darth monkey]

Well if you meant it in that sense I apologize. There are way too many insane fans here that attack you when you say something that could be somewhat construed as being anti-GNR. Axl could probably do those low parts as you say, just not sure he would be really effective at it.

[Butch Français]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

Is this a joke ? Do you own a GN'R album ?

From down low to high pitched, Axl's range is like a fucking piano.

not live. on most live recordings of ISE, I can't even hear him. I mainly hear Tommy (I think) on live recordings from this lineup, and Duff from the old lineup. he doesn't have a very prominent lower range.

Tommy/Duff's harmony on ISE is higher than Axl's melody. Listen to Axl talk. He is a full-on baritone and can hit all those lower notes. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

Ali

yeah, he can hit those notes. just not very powerfully in a live setting.
just like people diss Scott for not doing the high pitched ending of Patience, now, he probably could do it in the studio. but I don't blame him for playing it a bit safer live.

[Ali]

Well if you meant it in that sense I apologize. There are way too many insane fans here that attack you when you say something that could be somewhat construed as being anti-GNR. Axl could probably do those low parts as you say, just not sure he would be really effective at it.

Thanks, man.  It's cool. 

But, for the record, I agree, Scott does have a very nice, rich tone in "Set Me Free" and even more so in "The Last Fight".

Ali

[Ali]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

Is this a joke ? Do you own a GN'R album ?

From down low to high pitched, Axl's range is like a fucking piano.

not live. on most live recordings of ISE, I can't even hear him. I mainly hear Tommy (I think) on live recordings from this lineup, and Duff from the old lineup. he doesn't have a very prominent lower range.

Tommy/Duff's harmony on ISE is higher than Axl's melody. Listen to Axl talk. He is a full-on baritone and can hit all those lower notes. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

Ali

yeah, he can hit those notes. just not very powerfully in a live setting.
just like people diss Scott for not doing the high pitched ending of Patience, now, he probably could do it in the studio. but I don't blame him for playing it a bit safer live.

It was either Slash or Duff that said that the reason they picked "Mr. Brownstone" and "It's So Easy" to do live is that they are in Scott's range.  Perhaps Scott could hit the high notes in the outtros of "It's So Easy" and "Patience", but I doubt it.  He hasn't shown the ability to do that on any recording I've heard of him, either STP or VR.

Ali

[jarmo]

I just think it's bullshit to even compare Axl to this Weiland character.

It's like comparing a pro to an amateur.

The real thing to a wanna-be.


Obviously some of you think Scott is the first. Poor misguided people. 



/jarmo

[CSS]

Obviously some of you think Scott is the first.

I don't.

But I still think that it's unfair to label him as a poor frontman and singer.

Then again, it's all up to opinions.

[Ines_rocks!]

Obviously some of you think Scott is the first. Poor misguided people.?



/jarmo

lol who does think like that? I mean... we?re in a Guns forum... and we?d come here to say Scott "was first"? It?s kinda stupid but alright... To be quite honest, I don?t quite like Scott. He?s by far the VR member I like the least. I don?t like his style, his dance and his megaphone. But does it give me the right to say he ain?t a good professional on what he does? Or that he can?t sing? Nope... I don?t think so.  Obviously, being a Guns fan... it doesnt even cross my mind to say Scott is a best frontman than Axl... He ain?t... he never will be. But no way I?ll start disrespecting the guy because of my opinion. At least this is my civilized way of seeing things.

[jarmo]

I'm glad you're so civilized. 


I just think the guy is boring and not even among the best frontmen of his generation.

It's like he wants to be up there so bad and tries really hard to be something he's not.




/jarmo

[oldleadbelly]

I just think it's bullshit to even compare Axl to this Weiland character.

It's like comparing a pro to an amateur.

The real thing to a wanna-be.


Obviously some of you think Scott is the first. Poor misguided people. 



/jarmo

Good to see you hold your opinion in such high esteem.  However, IN MY OPINION, you always overstate your case.  So you don't like Scott, don't feign pity for me b/c I do.  I'm just happy there's room for differing opinions amongst the GnR fanbase.  I love GnR...I love STP, but for different reasons and different tastes.  VR is hit and miss with me.  Axl is a master at what he does, but I have no problem admitting that I feel Scott has created a more diverse body of work, and that's why I prefer him.